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March 31, 2020, 04:40:17 PM
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Hello,

I’m Manuel I live in Bolivia in the region of Los Yunga, don’t expect a professional announcement here, but an authentic one.
I’m a former math and economics student, after my dad died i had to go back to my village to help my family.
My father was a farmer, a small one, he grew corn, and i saw him struggling all his life to feed our family.
With my brother we decided to support our family and  keep the lands, but we wanted to make grow something much more profitable.

We decided to replace the corn per Erythroxylum novogranatense, it’s the scientific name for Columbian Coca Leaf.

I stop you here, in my country and community the coca plantation is legal, the leaves are even legal to consumption in our country, what happen after is not our problem, it can be used for tea , medecine , thootpaste, anything else. 

I consider myself rather as a scientific so we want to do it not like a farmer, but in the most efficient and profitable manner.

What we currently do:

  • We currently grow the regular coca leaves, the current production is 1.5 tons per 1 hectar.
  • Each kilo can resale for ~1-1.5$ it means it’s 2250$ per hectare which is more than corn even in the US.
  • We are currently working on 15 hectares and we want to rapidly expand our field.


What is the plan:

  • We need to rent more lands, we also need more modern tools if we want to drastically increase the rentability per square feet.
  • We would like to try hydride variety with a much higher return and a better resistance.
  • Of course we don’t have access to banks for  financing and we don’t want to deal with cartels, so I though why not finance our activity with crypto currency.

Why invest in coca leaves plantation:

  • Support local economy in developing country, 50000 persons depend of this legal industry in my region.
  • Avoid financing from non legit sources such as cartel to make farmers earn their own money and not be under pressure or threatened.
  • Support tradition in our country
  • High return

You probably red that many people invested in wood lands or coffee lands with very profitable returns up to 8% a year. Believe me, with coca leaf you can expect 10% to 30% return every 6 month or even much more because we want to  make the process much more mordern and very efficient.

We are looking for very few selected investors, we would prefer to start with people with high merit here in order to gain traction, show that we provide a good return, get their feedback and continue to expand.
For the first round, we want to start with a small amount, we will be able to provide you your first return in the next 3 month, we expect to be somewhere between 10 and 30%.
Then once we are know in the industry we would like to create the first coin backed by one of the most profitable commodity in the world: Coca Leaf and help supporting farmers where it’s legal. It will be an ERC-20 where each unity will represent 100 kilos of leaf and will pay a divident depending on the price we sold our leaves

If you are ready to engage in this great adventure, please DM me and my brother, again in our country this activity is legal and we are licensed under the law 1008 to grow coca leaves.
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March 31, 2020, 08:34:11 PM
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The question is, what are the guarantees for investors and why don't you just take a loan from a Bank and work for yourself?

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It's a very legit question, and the response is that banks don't accept to finance business like ours, you know it's a bit like the cannabis shop in the US who have to keep tons of cash in their safe because banks are scared to keep this money.

Without investment, it remain a very traditional activity where everything is manual, and we have more ambition and we know we can make higher profitability and returns, and that it could benefit our investor on the long run.  

To reply to your first question, the response is as expected that we can't provide guarantee.  
However for people like you for example, with high status, we are keen to start with small amount, to lower the risk to the minimum as long as your are happy to post feedback here, to show we are honest.

Obviously the returns we provide here are higher than what will get the investor in the futures, because once our track record is good, the risk will become lower for investors and then the premium for this risk. However first investors will benefit of preferential returns.

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April 01, 2020, 03:26:22 AM
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Before you start asking for investors to invest and you want to be transparent can you please change the setting to moderated from un moderated or you will find yourself in the reputation or scam section, you want to be transparent then let people ask or post here without a doubt that the post they created will be deleted.

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April 01, 2020, 07:36:56 AM
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Wanted to send you DM, but you don't accept messages from newbies.
Please change it, or contact me Smiley
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April 01, 2020, 10:59:33 AM
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Thanks for your interest, we replied to your message.
 
Before you start asking for investors to invest and you want to be transparent can you please change the setting to moderated from un moderated or you will find yourself in the reputation or scam section, you want to be transparent then let people ask or post here without a doubt that the post they created will be deleted.

The setting can't be changed, however you can monitor the number of post deleted it will stay to zero, unless someone request us to perform illegal activities such as sending cocaine, we want to keep the right to delete such message to avoid the situation to escalate and be banned or give our project a bad reputation.

As said our president, Coca Si, Cocaina No.
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April 01, 2020, 11:08:26 AM
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Thanks for your interest, we replied to your message.
 
Before you start asking for investors to invest and you want to be transparent can you please change the setting to moderated from un moderated or you will find yourself in the reputation or scam section, you want to be transparent then let people ask or post here without a doubt that the post they created will be deleted.

The setting can't be changed, however you can monitor the number of post deleted it will stay to zero, unless someone request us to perform illegal activities such as sending cocaine, we want to keep the right to delete such message to avoid the situation to escalate and be banned or give our project a bad reputation.

As said our president, Coca Si, Cocaina No.
How can you assure the return of the investement? we re talking about to send you cryptos to fund your business. why dont you do your token first? Or a legit platform?
All this seems a little fishy.


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April 01, 2020, 11:15:49 AM
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We can ensure return to our investors because the productivity can be de multiplied if you modernize your production. Everything is manual, with the right tools, it would be easy to multiplied by 2 the production.

If by investing we are able to produce let say only 10 to 30% more (we expect much more), we will make more money, and we will be able to pay a dividend to our investors.

Let's be honest we could create an ERC-20 and send it for crypto, why would it make it more safe for investors ? A backed ERC-20 has no value without trust, and here we want to build trust and create track record.

We prefer to start small, with reliable investors, who like the project and who would be happy to give their feedback here.
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April 01, 2020, 03:50:57 PM
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We can ensure return to our investors because the productivity can be de multiplied if you modernize your production. Everything is manual, with the right tools, it would be easy to multiplied by 2 the production.

If by investing we are able to produce let say only 10 to 30% more (we expect much more), we will make more money, and we will be able to pay a dividend to our investors.

Let's be honest we could create an ERC-20 and send it for crypto, why would it make it more safe for investors ? A backed ERC-20 has no value without trust, and here we want to build trust and create track record.

We prefer to start small, with reliable investors, who like the project and who would be happy to give their feedback here.

and yet how to solve the issue of trust?we don't even know your real name.What guarantees will be provided to investors?

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April 01, 2020, 04:03:06 PM
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We can ensure return to our investors because the productivity can be de multiplied if you modernize your production. Everything is manual, with the right tools, it would be easy to multiplied by 2 the production.

If by investing we are able to produce let say only 10 to 30% more (we expect much more), we will make more money, and we will be able to pay a dividend to our investors.

Let's be honest we could create an ERC-20 and send it for crypto, why would it make it more safe for investors ? A backed ERC-20 has no value without trust, and here we want to build trust and create track record.

We prefer to start small, with reliable investors, who like the project and who would be happy to give their feedback here.

and yet how to solve the issue of trust?we don't even know your real name.What guarantees will be provided to investors?

Once they can travel, the biggest investors can come to visit us directly to see our activity before to put money on the table Wink

Trust take time to build anyway, online a guarantee worth nothing even coming to see us worth nothing in the end.  

I'm sorry but i don't have a magic stick to tell that, you would be able to trust us in a snap, i mean yes it may appears as a risky but profitable investment, we understand the risk can appears to be high, that's why we propose high returns for our first investors. I think people are aware of that from the beginning.

Like if you want to invest 100USD it's very few but for high merit members we could figure  some small investment, and after each harvest we send you back 30% of your investment. So you can come here to give your feedback, and that's how we build trust, and you don't risk much money.

The coca paste is used as a currency in my country for decates, it makes sense to build a coca backed currency, after all it's even better than gold, the price slightly move but never crash.
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April 03, 2020, 12:53:01 PM
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Very happy we already onboarded our first investor for 10% of the capital we aim to rise.
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April 04, 2020, 06:15:51 AM
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No escrow or any legal backing, you want members with high merit here to support your project with their money because you write few lines about cocoa leaf and some hectars of land without any proof of actually having any, I doubt any high
merit member will be that stupid, you want people in this forum to just take your word for it and invest without any trust or provide some level of assurance Grin
Lol! Goodluck to any possible prey to this lucrative investment, and to top it, your thread is self moderated.
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April 06, 2020, 12:58:22 PM
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How can we use an escrow whereas we need to use the money to invest ?
I mean we all red your red flag, it won't be deleted, but i think the first page is full of your advises and i think we received enough.
We are honest and we will prove it, we already have investors and they will be the one who matters for us, not people scared to take risk when the benefit is high, and that we want to build a trust relationship.
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