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Author Topic: Circle, Dice, Wheel, Reel gamble is SCAMMING players (?)  (Read 808 times)
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June 17, 2014, 07:46:14 AM
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Did you try playing gamble such as: satoshicircle, reel, coin flipping, coin wheeling, lucky coin dropping, coin dice rolling ...etc.... If YES you should read this

First, we know these gambles allow us to set personal SEED (seek) for fair playing (some other sites dont allow this).
What is SEED (seek) ?
as peerbet.com explain https://www.peerdice.org/default.aspx
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The Provably Fair process we use:
1. Each player ads a client seed for every bet that he places.
2. We combine the number of games made with the client seed.
3. We combine all the clients seeds of all players and bets into 1, and we create a SHA256 hash from it, who determines the winning number.

as betcoin.tm explain http://www.betcoin.tm/circle/howtoplay
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The client seed allows you to directly affect the outcome of each bet by inserting the text you enter into the hash function which generates the outcome of each game.

So now I trying input some special character into SEED (seek) field such as: ∞ ⅍ ₮ ₱ ₳ ℅ □ ₴ ⁿ ∏ √ ‰ ≈ ≡
And I play to get the result. Extremely I found that the result array now is not the same.

Here is some screnshot from betcoin.tm





You can try to set a special personal seed (seek) to know this is true.
Especially DICE gamble. The server result give out the number result quite differently with our number result (in spite of our personal SEED)

At last so what is the exactly fair playing? The generate results are not the same. Is this not fair OR am I so stupid to understand about this? The answer is yours.


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