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February 28, 2018, 10:22:41 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.
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February 28, 2018, 10:35:11 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.

Bitcoin's creator was also anonymous, so it's not saying everything. However ICOs should have some valid information about their identity, in my opinion. Because they try to sell you something, which Bitcoin didn't. But some countries have strict rules and therefore don't want to give their identity to the public. I guess you can say it's a bigger risk, but it's not a guaranteed scam.     
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February 28, 2018, 10:38:56 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.

I know that some projects are protected their website data. But it seems not have 100 accuracies. Rather than use whois as the measure to define if that was a scam project or not and it think the whitepaper and code should become a very good measure for that. But with the protected whois data and it will be a good thing to see that as a suspicious project that there was a possibility to be a scam project.
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February 28, 2018, 10:40:11 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.

Bitcoin's creator was also anonymous, so it's not saying everything. However ICOs should have some valid information about their identity, in my opinion. Because they try to sell you something, which Bitcoin didn't. But some countries have strict rules and therefore don't want to give their identity to the public. I guess you can say it's a bigger risk, but it's not a guaranteed scam.     
Very good opinion, I agree with you. Since this is not the main thing in the project, but if the team really does a good product and wants to sell him, it then them need to show who does it all really.

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March 01, 2018, 08:23:47 PM
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nothing wrong about hidden whois information for ordinary websites. But I guess that it's bad practice for ICO related sites because of a high amount of scams. Clients should trust ICO, so ICOs should reveal their identity.

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March 01, 2018, 08:41:44 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.


Nothing is wrong with protecting your identity as there is the available feature for such things. When you start to look around bunch of websites have this feature enabled as it is a privacy feature. Best what you could do is try to examine team members because they can pay for everything else to be made to look professional starting from whitepaper, website, advertisements etc.
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March 01, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
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I know that some projects are protected their website data. But it seems not have 100 accuracies. Rather than use whois as the measure to define if that was a scam project or not and it think the whitepaper and code should become a very good measure for that. But with the protected whois data and it will be a good thing to see that as a suspicious project that there was a possibility to be a scam project.

If you actually followed the vionex ICO now turned scam of the year closely you would've known that Whitepaper isn't enough to ascertain the authenticity of a project. Vionex did everything that made it look good in the eyes of the people but like a fart in the wind, the whole trace to the company has disappeared. Many people didn't suspect anything wrong until today when everything hit the airwaves.


I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.

To the OP, using Whois is a better step to checkmating some of these fraudsters. And if site owner's identity is hidden, keep away from such ICOs. It is a scam waiting to happen.

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March 01, 2018, 09:25:04 PM
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Not everyone want their personal identity publish to public, i mean the one who register the webiste can be not the part of the devloper though right ?
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March 01, 2018, 09:31:21 PM
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Any noob website owner will protect his identity,because it could be use to anything because the internet has full of scammers and hackers,why would you judge an ICO which has protected domain name? it doesnt work like that who is,is really neceassary thing to have when you are having some website because you do not like that some people will go visit your house because your domain is in public.

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March 01, 2018, 09:31:48 PM
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Most registrants offer privacy protect as free option and thats why too much people use it, for example to prevent spam or social engineering with you data.
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March 01, 2018, 09:37:17 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.


I didn't know about this option, so you search for the owner of the domain? Cool. But I tend to avoid projects without a team, the ones I've followed that were without a team have proven to be the most frequent scams/shitcoins. Satoshi was something else totally, it can't even be compared.
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March 01, 2018, 09:43:54 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.

I also have used this to see who owns the site and where such ip address  belongs to. I have found out that it wasn't actually the owner. Sometimes a dummy account was used to stand for such an ip. So it's no use to really determine who really are they that we are believing and transacting to. Maybe instead of finding dummies we will have to find the real person in the ICO and search for any feedback about the sites reputation.

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March 01, 2018, 10:30:34 PM
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I am trying to use WHOIS to know who is the owner of some ICO related web pages. Sometimes the identity is protected. Should I immediately suspect these? Is there any good reason to have it hidden?
I am talking about the WHOIS service of the internet domain registration authorities.


Nothing is wrong with protecting your identity as there is the available feature for such things. When you start to look around bunch of websites have this feature enabled as it is a privacy feature. Best what you could do is try to examine team members because they can pay for everything else to be made to look professional starting from whitepaper, website, advertisements etc.

But privacy cannot be granted on an ICO proposal, it would be ridiculous to hide something like that from people who want to make an investment. I f I am giving you money I want to know even the make of your underwear.
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March 01, 2018, 10:38:32 PM
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I think it is a good idea. It won´t give you a 100% certainty, but it is a check that is easy to do and takes like 2 minutes. So it is a good idea by the OP.
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