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March 20, 2018, 09:56:34 AM
Last edit: March 21, 2018, 02:16:30 AM by Yaunfitda
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Sounds interesting,
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Ukraine to Compensate a Citizen in Bitcoin – for ”Moral Damages”

A district court in Kiev Oblast has accepted a lawsuit which is setting a precedent in Ukraine. The plaintiff seeks compensation in bitcoin for “moral damages” caused by law enforcement officials. A preliminary hearing has been scheduled after the presiding judge found no legal grounds to reject the claim.

Setting a Precedent

For the first time in Ukraine’s judicial practice, a claim for compensation in cryptocurrency has been accepted by a local court. Ukrainian citizen Dmitriy G. wants to be paid 1 BTC for “moral damages” he suffered in result of an “unlawful” search. He is suing officers from Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) and their colleagues from the Prosecutor’s Office who conducted the operation.

https://news.bitcoin.com/ukraine-to-compensate-a-citizen-in-bitcoin-for-moral-damages/

Yeah, I never heard such precedence before so I guess cryptoverse needs to monitor what will be the outcome of the verdict in this one. He is settling for 1 BTC which I think is very big amount for moral damages. Let's see how it goes, I don't think that this will bring any weight in the US justice system though.

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March 20, 2018, 10:31:56 AM
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It seems to me that there will be no precedent. In Ukraine there are no fair courts so the decision will be very controversial. Any decision of the court of first instance may be set aside by the court of appeal. Also in Ukraine it is very difficult to get a large sum for moral damage. It seems to me that this is a PR in order to draw attention to the problem of the use of cryptocurrencies in Ukraine.
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March 20, 2018, 10:33:41 PM
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Ukraine is part of the former USSR so I don't think that there will be fair and honest judiciary system in place. But this kind of publicity is good for bitcoin and crypto in general. At least it somewhat attracts attention and maybe Ukrainian will find a way to put money in crypto out of curiosity.

Yeah, there's no precedence here, just normal case that will ended up in the thrash anyways. And I don't think its worth to watch how this case will end up.

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March 20, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
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March 21, 2018, 04:52:17 AM
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I know the judicial system of Ukraine well. Adoption of the claim for proceedings by the court does not mean anything. The court could not say anything about the compensation of moral harm in Bitcoin at this stage. He must take action against the proceedings, if the rule of the civil procedure code on the general rules for filing a claim is not violated. And in this article there is no mention of the currency in which compensation for moral damage should be expressed. The lawsuit in bitcoin will be unequivocally rejected at the stage of making the decision. In Ukraine there is no independent and fair justice now.
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March 21, 2018, 03:24:44 PM
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It seems to me that there will be no precedent. In Ukraine there are no fair courts so the decision will be very controversial. Any decision of the court of first instance may be set aside by the court of appeal. Also in Ukraine it is very difficult to get a large sum for moral damage. It seems to me that this is a PR in order to draw attention to the problem of the use of cryptocurrencies in Ukraine.

 Yes, most likely this is the case. Ukraine has no legislation on crypto-currencies, and bitcoin is not recognized as a payment system, as, for example, in Japan. Payment of the claim in bitcoins will be considered illegal in any case, not to mention the corrupt judicial system and other aspects.
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March 21, 2018, 03:38:26 PM
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It seems to me that there will be no precedent. In Ukraine there are no fair courts so the decision will be very controversial. Any decision of the court of first instance may be set aside by the court of appeal. Also in Ukraine it is very difficult to get a large sum for moral damage. It seems to me that this is a PR in order to draw attention to the problem of the use of cryptocurrencies in Ukraine.

 Yes, most likely this is the case. Ukraine has no legislation on crypto-currencies, and bitcoin is not recognized as a payment system, as, for example, in Japan. Payment of the claim in bitcoins will be considered illegal in any case, not to mention the corrupt judicial system and other aspects.
But I think that this situation will be in any country. There is no full recognition of bitcoin as a means of payment anywhere. Can be only in Japan and the with small restrictions. But I think it's okay. It seems to me that this will once again draw attention to bitcoin in Ukraine and legislators will adopt a law on cryptocurrency. It is the closest country to Europe from the countries of the former USSR. Perhaps her example will be followed by others.
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March 21, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
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It seems to me that there will be no precedent. In Ukraine there are no fair courts so the decision will be very controversial. Any decision of the court of first instance may be set aside by the court of appeal. Also in Ukraine it is very difficult to get a large sum for moral damage. It seems to me that this is a PR in order to draw attention to the problem of the use of cryptocurrencies in Ukraine.

 Yes, most likely this is the case. Ukraine has no legislation on crypto-currencies, and bitcoin is not recognized as a payment system, as, for example, in Japan. Payment of the claim in bitcoins will be considered illegal in any case, not to mention the corrupt judicial system and other aspects.
But I think that this situation will be in any country. There is no full recognition of bitcoin as a means of payment anywhere. Can be only in Japan and the with small restrictions. But I think it's okay. It seems to me that this will once again draw attention to bitcoin in Ukraine and legislators will adopt a law on cryptocurrency. It is the closest country to Europe from the countries of the former USSR. Perhaps her example will be followed by others.
Since in Ukraine the crypto currency has no status at all, even if this claim is satisfied, the court is unlikely to be able to take a decision on compensation. moral harm is in bitcoin. The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has submitted a bill on recognizing the crypto currency as a means of payment and freeing up operations with the crypto currency, and in general any activity in the crypto-currency from paying taxes, and such a bill has been submitted by the relevant Verkhovna Rada Committee.
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March 21, 2018, 09:08:33 PM
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Kind of a new usage for cryptocurrency. Looks like we will make all daily operations using bitcoin or altcoins, doesn't matter. world is really changing
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