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October 24, 2013, 11:31:42 AM
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Uses be warned. For those who dont know, to have a positive rating you must pay the site owner, an extortion fee of 12 BTC ($2400USD)

He rates us a D- and posts a video of the time when we got hacked and no games would pay. (1 hr and all users were credited back) . Ive explained on the forum why it was like that more than once, but he  implies thats the normal payouts.

He also implies that we set payouts to 85%, when infact its 98%

And he implies we are colluding with Bit777 (his other D ranked casino), in some type of scam, when i dont even know bit777 and have never even messaged him. However i certinally support bit777s view of BitcoinCasinoPro, which is already made public.

I am very pissed off that he posts such defamation against us. He scared cause when people come and play at our casino, they are not playing his rigged dice games. Which he says are "provably fair" but infact are provably can be manipulated... Dont be suckered in by this con artist

Total scammer. Be warned.

I rank his site a F  (F for FRAUD)


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October 24, 2013, 11:40:25 AM
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Regardless of the trustworthiness of BitcoinCasinoPro (or lack thereof), the rating for BitWinCasino is accurate.

The casino is rigged to force players to lose if someone just had a winning streak before them. You could be making bets that have 0 chance to win without the casino letting you know.

In the meantime, the operators are blissfully ignorant of how the provably fair concept actually works. They're too simpleminded to understand, to stubborn to want to understand or simply trying to divert attention away from the fact that BitWinCasino is in fact... Provably unfair.

ps. Thanks for not making this thread self-moderated. I and many others were getting a bit tired of having our views removed from the official propaganda-thread.
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October 24, 2013, 11:44:08 AM
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Uses be warned. For those who dont know, to have a positive rating you must pay the site owner, an extortion fee of 12 BTC ($2400USD)

He rates us a D- and posts a video of the time when we got hacked and no games would pay. (1 hr and all users were credited back) . Ive explained on the forum why it was like that more than once, but he  implies thats the normal payouts.

He also implies that we set payouts to 85%, when infact its 98%

And he implies we are colluding with Bit777 (his other D ranked casino), in some type of scam, when i dont even know bit777 and have never even messaged him. However i certinally support bit777s view of BitcoinCasinoPro, which is already made public.

I am very pissed off that he posts such defamation against us. He scared cause when people come and play at our casino, they are not playing his rigged dice games. Which he says are "provably fair" but infact are provably can be manipulated... Dont be suckered in by this con artist

Total scammer. Be warned.

I rank his site a F  (F for FRAUD)



Yea he's a total con. He should change his site name to Bitcoincasinofraud.com and stop misleading people.

Btw, you forgot to mention how this scam artist managed to review your site without even logging in LOL..

Rannasha, go get a life.


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October 24, 2013, 11:50:10 AM
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Rannasha, go get a life.

Aww, we're having to resort to ad hominem attacks now? How cute.

How about you actually refute my arguments in the other threads about your casino instead of namecalling.
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October 24, 2013, 11:51:58 AM
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Rannasha, go get a life.

Aww, we're having to resort to ad homimen attacks now? How cute.

How about you actually refute my arguments in the other threads about your casino instead of namecalling.

No-one cares about your whining...especially me...lol

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October 24, 2013, 11:55:58 AM
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Rannasha, go get a life.

Aww, we're having to resort to ad homimen attacks now? How cute.

How about you actually refute my arguments in the other threads about your casino instead of namecalling.

No-one cares about your whining...especially me...lol
It's funny because he's right and nobody uses your casino. In fact, I will be posting a list of untrusted casinos on my website, starting with those that are unfair to raise awareness of cheating sites. You'll be at he top of the list. No such thing as bad publicity, eh?

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October 24, 2013, 12:23:46 PM
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The casino is rigged to force players to lose if someone just had a winning streak before them. You could be making bets that have 0 chance to win without the casino letting you know.


You are half right and half wrong. most gambling games since the start of history,  always lose in the long run, based on mathmatics
so that type of game, Roulete, blackjack, sicbo, dice and other games of "skill" etc, its not effected.  Its only the randomness spinner machines and just means that you have a  higher chance to win because they are set to have lots of payouts, without ever bankrupting the casino.

The other option, is set the spinners so they hardly ever payout, but thats a boring game, and hard to win.


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October 24, 2013, 12:36:05 PM
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Uses be warned. For those who dont know, to have a positive rating you must pay the site owner, an extortion fee of 12 BTC ($2400USD)

He rates us a D- and posts a video of the time when we got hacked and no games would pay. (1 hr and all users were credited back) . Ive explained on the forum why it was like that more than once, but he  implies thats the normal payouts.

He also implies that we set payouts to 85%, when infact its 98%

And he implies we are colluding with Bit777 (his other D ranked casino), in some type of scam, when i dont even know bit777 and have never even messaged him. However i certinally support bit777s view of BitcoinCasinoPro, which is already made public.

I am very pissed off that he posts such defamation against us. He scared cause when people come and play at our casino, they are not playing his rigged dice games. Which he says are "provably fair" but infact are provably can be manipulated... Dont be suckered in by this con artist

Total scammer. Be warned.

I rank his site a F  (F for FRAUD)



Yea he's a total con. He should change his site name to Bitcoincasinofraud.com and stop misleading people.

Btw, you forgot to mention how this scam artist managed to review your site without even logging in LOL..

Rannasha, go get a life.



I assume your discussing the Bitwin Casino review we published yesterday located at http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitwin-casino/ ? If so this article clearly demonstrates on how the casino and software provider has the ability to cheat bitcoin casino members on a regular basis. You don't have to believe me simply believe the casino software's own website!

1 in 29,098,125,988,731,506,183,153,025,616,435,306,561,536 are the odds on rolling 26 consecutive snake eyes. Would you please explain this to players? If you really want to break this down into facts including the private messages we received I would be more than willing to do so.
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October 24, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
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1 in 29,098,125,988,731,506,183,153,025,616,435,306,561,536 are the odds on rolling 26 consecutive snake eyes. Would you please explain this to players? If you really want to break this down into facts including the private messages we received I would be more than willing to do so.

Its been explained several times.

to cut a long story short,  the site was hacked,  the site was fixed, the players were reimbursed.

That game should be fixed now and give you the correct chance to win.


Your making out that im purposely manipulating the games in an attempt to scam people, which simply isnt true




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October 24, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
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0.02BTC that I spent there will be the only I ever do.

I rank your site a F  (F for FRAUD)



you should of cashed out when you were at 0.0252 BTC, you would of been up...  but instead you gambled it and start crying fraud when you lose

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October 24, 2013, 02:27:36 PM
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1 in 29,098,125,988,731,506,183,153,025,616,435,306,561,536 are the odds on rolling 26 consecutive snake eyes. Would you please explain this to players? If you really want to break this down into facts including the private messages we received I would be more than willing to do so.

Its been explained several times.

to cut a long story short,  the site was hacked,  the site was fixed, the players were reimbursed.

That game should be fixed now and give you the correct chance to win.


Your making out that im purposely manipulating the games in an attempt to scam people, which simply isnt true

I think the problem is that it is possible for the results to be manipulated. I am not accusing you of fruad, but many Bitcoin gamblers look for sites that are provably fair. The cryptography will prove to the user that the results have not been modified in any way.

This would benefit both the player, as well as the casino, since you would benefit from increased player traffic.
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October 24, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
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1 in 29,098,125,988,731,506,183,153,025,616,435,306,561,536 are the odds on rolling 26 consecutive snake eyes. Would you please explain this to players? If you really want to break this down into facts including the private messages we received I would be more than willing to do so.

Its been explained several times.

to cut a long story short,  the site was hacked,  the site was fixed, the players were reimbursed.

That game should be fixed now and give you the correct chance to win.


Your making out that im purposely manipulating the games in an attempt to scam people, which simply isnt true

I think the problem is that it is possible for the results to be manipulated. I am not accusing you of fruad, but many Bitcoin gamblers look for sites that are provably fair. The cryptography will prove to the user that the results have not been modified in any way.

This would benefit both the player, as well as the casino, since you would benefit from increased player traffic.
"Possible" is the wrong term - it is unavoidable. The software that is used computes the "random" result as a function of the house profit. So it is unable to ever produce real random results.

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November 19, 2013, 07:53:27 AM
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Looks like the juries in Alan  Wink

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