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December 12, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
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Hi,

*Please PM if interested.* Mod - if this thread would be more suited for another section such as the gamling section then please move it. Cheers.

In this world I believe there are people with ideas, capital or a skill set. A small lucky minority of us possess all 3 sometime in our lives but for most of us we get along with one.

I have an idea, well more of a business model for an online casino. It doesn't rely on giving away huge amounts in bonuses or spending millions on marketing. Profit will be yielded from day one. Significant profit.

If it's a bitcoin only casino then we won't need a licence from day one. However this business model would work better if credit cards, wire transfers and other payment methods were also accepted. Of course if we were to go through this route initial start up costs would be greater.

Let's assume to prove the model we initially accept bitcoin only. We need to create our own independent software. This is a minimum requirement. White label solutions will not be appropriate for our purposes. Start up costs will range from $20k to $100k.

Next we have marketing costs ($5k and less) and returns will be reinvested without any further capital outlay.


I'm based in London, UK. I don't mind where the investor is based. I don't need you to send me any money. As long as you are prepared to spend the $ to create the casino platform and we have a contract written up where I am a 50% share holder we can make this work.

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It takes a person of a certain mindset to operate in this sector, so please only consider this if your main priority is to MAKE MONEY. We will not be setting up an NGO or soup kitchen - if you catch my drift.

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Thanks for the opportunity to pitch,

Kev.

P.S. I will not discuss anything with anybody who is not prepared to show me they have the necessary capital for investment. A signed message from an address with >50 BTC will more than suffice.

P.P.S. With my profits from this venture I plan to reinvest in a cryptocurrency that I will market in developing and emerging markets. I will of course allow my investors to be part of this venture too.

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December 12, 2013, 09:48:43 PM
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Just from newbies to lending section...
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December 12, 2013, 09:58:28 PM
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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

It doesn't matter if I spent 12 months building up a presence - If my intention is to scam anybody I'm going to scam.

Didn't you read my post? I know it's ridiculous to ask anybody to hand you over any money especially if you don't know them or have an air tight contract in place.

I'm hoping a smart investor will realise we can do this without placing any funds with me.

I appreciate your concerns but I'm not going to defend myself to any ends. The way this deal will be structured the investor/s will not need to have any faith in me.

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December 12, 2013, 09:59:34 PM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?
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December 12, 2013, 10:09:25 PM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

Hi moonbux,

well I'd like to think I'll be heavily involved in the operational side of the business...and considering I am the one bringing the idea to the table 50% doesn't seem unfair. In any case, this can be discussed with investors and negotiated. I'm not saying I'm willing to move from 50% but equity negotiations are bound to happen.

No I will not build the platform, that's what the investment is for. If I could why would I be seeking investment?

Well maybe not 700k BTC but def atleast 200k - Shavers was his name.
And not to mention the other countless scammers who have come, profited and disappeared because naive people choose to place faith in post counts and member join date.

Appreciate your input but not necessarily your tone.
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December 12, 2013, 11:25:15 PM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

Hi moonbux,

well I'd like to think I'll be heavily involved in the operational side of the business...and considering I am the one bringing the idea to the table 50% doesn't seem unfair. In any case, this can be discussed with investors and negotiated. I'm not saying I'm willing to move from 50% but equity negotiations are bound to happen.

No I will not build the platform, that's what the investment is for. If I could why would I be seeking investment?

Well maybe not 700k BTC but def atleast 200k - Shavers was his name.
And not to mention the other countless scammers who have come, profited and disappeared because naive people choose to place faith in post counts and member join date.

Appreciate your input but not necessarily your tone.

Sorry about my tone, but these scammers are scammers.  We really shouldn't be comparing anything with them.
On the other hand, you have even less posts and less trust the scammers obtained before they ran away.  Therefore you are stating that you are even more likely to scam, no?

I understand that you do not want to run away with the money, but 50% is quite a lot for someone that does not put any sort of investment in other than his/her time.  Why can't the lender just buy his own site, run it himself?  What do you mean "operational side?"
Basically you'll be admin and run the site?  IMO it's not that hard if you are just answering questions with the lender purchasing the whole dev team.
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December 13, 2013, 12:43:08 AM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

Hi moonbux,

well I'd like to think I'll be heavily involved in the operational side of the business...and considering I am the one bringing the idea to the table 50% doesn't seem unfair. In any case, this can be discussed with investors and negotiated. I'm not saying I'm willing to move from 50% but equity negotiations are bound to happen.

No I will not build the platform, that's what the investment is for. If I could why would I be seeking investment?

Well maybe not 700k BTC but def atleast 200k - Shavers was his name.
And not to mention the other countless scammers who have come, profited and disappeared because naive people choose to place faith in post counts and member join date.

Appreciate your input but not necessarily your tone.

Sorry about my tone, but these scammers are scammers.  We really shouldn't be comparing anything with them.
On the other hand, you have even less posts and less trust the scammers obtained before they ran away.  Therefore you are stating that you are even more likely to scam, no?

I understand that you do not want to run away with the money, but 50% is quite a lot for someone that does not put any sort of investment in other than his/her time.  Why can't the lender just buy his own site, run it himself?  What do you mean "operational side?"
Basically you'll be admin and run the site?  IMO it's not that hard if you are just answering questions with the lender purchasing the whole dev team.

Are you interested in investing but believe 50% is too high? What equity do you think I should be taking? To be frank I'm not one to get hung up on equity percentages especially this early on. What's important is finding the right partner/investor and getting this project going.

Lol, by operations I mean getting the punters to the site as well as a whole host of tasks that are required in running any business. I wouldn't be 'answering questions' as you put it- there are a ton of cute Filipino women available to take on the roles of CSR. Smiley

PM me mate if you're interested and for god's sake stop focusing on the details that quite honestly aren't that important AT THIS STAGE!
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December 13, 2013, 01:01:18 AM
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This actually sound like good idea.
I do not have this much money to fund operation, but perhaps you should start a investment opportunity for others?  I would like to participate.

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December 13, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

I hope stunna is not paying you to be negative cause its bad for the site, I will report your negative posts to him.

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December 13, 2013, 10:48:47 AM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

I hope stunna is not paying you to be negative cause its bad for the site, I will report your negative posts to him.
While you're at it please report at least 80% of all PD sig posts cause they are unconstructive spam.

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December 13, 2013, 06:18:42 PM
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You are not a programmer and you have no capital.  You want someone else to put up all the investment money and you want to basically be a project manager for 50% of the company?

lol.
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December 13, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
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Pardon me but I see little point in re-inventing the wheel.

There is top-notch software already out there which costs about USD $50K or less if you do a partnership and know how to promote.

The stuff that is out there works and works well.

The key is in marketing and promotion which is going to have to be left to highly experienced internet marketers if you are going to make money.

Lots of geeks around here but relatively few real marketers, it seems to me.

Not picking on anyone but USD $50K for the soft and USD $50K for promotion would quickly put you near the top of the heap if done preoperly.

My $.02.

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December 13, 2013, 06:55:11 PM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

I hope stunna is not paying you to be negative cause its bad for the site, I will report your negative posts to him.

Yes please, I feel like we are back at school, go tell on me :3
You're right, we should let gamblers like you to take over asking for fishy loans Smiley
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December 14, 2013, 08:46:55 PM
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Hi,

*Please PM if interested.* Mod - if this thread would be more suited for another section such as the gamling section then please move it. Cheers.

In this world I believe there are people with ideas, capital or a skill set. A small lucky minority of us possess all 3 sometime in our lives but for most of us we get along with one.

I have an idea, well more of a business model for an online casino. It doesn't rely on giving away huge amounts in bonuses or spending millions on marketing. Profit will be yielded from day one. Significant profit.

If it's a bitcoin only casino then we won't need a licence from day one. However this business model would work better if credit cards, wire transfers and other payment methods were also accepted. Of course if we were to go through this route initial start up costs would be greater.

Let's assume to prove the model we initially accept bitcoin only. We need to create our own independent software. This is a minimum requirement. White label solutions will not be appropriate for our purposes. Start up costs will range from $20k to $100k.

Next we have marketing costs ($5k and less) and returns will be reinvested without any further capital outlay.


I'm based in London, UK. I don't mind where the investor is based. I don't need you to send me any money. As long as you are prepared to spend the $ to create the casino platform and we have a contract written up where I am a 50% share holder we can make this work.

-

It takes a person of a certain mindset to operate in this sector, so please only consider this if your main priority is to MAKE MONEY. We will not be setting up an NGO or soup kitchen - if you catch my drift.

-

Thanks for the opportunity to pitch,

Kev.

P.S. I will not discuss anything with anybody who is not prepared to show me they have the necessary capital for investment. A signed message from an address with >50 BTC will more than suffice.

P.P.S. With my profits from this venture I plan to reinvest in a cryptocurrency that I will market in developing and emerging markets. I will of course allow my investors to be part of this venture too.



No offense to you cause I dont believe everyone is a scammer but 50 BTC is a lot of money we are talking about here, must be other ways for you to come with that kind of capital.

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December 14, 2013, 08:49:25 PM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

I hope stunna is not paying you to be negative cause its bad for the site, I will report your negative posts to him.

Yes please, I feel like we are back at school, go tell on me :3
You're right, we should let gamblers like you to take over asking for fishy loans Smiley

You are quite the devious one for attacking people that are asking for 1 dollar loans, your not a certified loan agent are you?    I have more money then you probably, thats for sure.  Yes I wanted a measly 0.001 for a loan to gamble, happy?   

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December 14, 2013, 09:22:19 PM
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That's pretty bull, a casino that will make you rich from day one, yet you do nothing and still own 50% of it.
Are you telling me that the investor must supply all funds and they only get 50%?
It doesn't sound like will even build the platform, are you going to hire someone to do that too, with the investor's money?

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Wasn't there a seasoned forumer here who took you guys for something like 700,000 coins?

... No?

I hope stunna is not paying you to be negative cause its bad for the site, I will report your negative posts to him.

Yes please, I feel like we are back at school, go tell on me :3
You're right, we should let gamblers like you to take over asking for fishy loans Smiley

You are quite the devious one for attacking people that are asking for 1 dollar loans, your not a certified loan agent are you?    I have more money then you probably, thats for sure.  Yes I wanted a measly 0.001 for a loan to gamble, happy?  

I already left you alone long ago, there was no attacking, just the innocent attempt to warn others.
I'm a certified loan agent as much as you are a certified troll agent.  No, you probably don't have more money than me; as for people with more money never make a comment as such.

Cant we please wrap this up through PMs?  Because you'll just find another excuse and claim I'm trying to increase my post count.
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December 14, 2013, 09:24:38 PM
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In this world I believe there are people with ideas, capital or a skill set. A small lucky minority of us possess all 3 sometime in our lives but for most of us we get along with one.

Really, I believe that there are only two worth mentioning: the people with capital and the people with a skill set. As soon as the person with "ideas" releases their idea to one of the other two they become worthless, which is what you are finding out in this forum thread Grin

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Easy now, Monbux has been known to get hostile/aggresive and foam at the mouth in other threads. Youve been warned

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December 14, 2013, 10:30:35 PM
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Easy now, Monbux has been known to get hostile/aggresive and foam at the mouth in other threads. Youve been warned

The postings get more and more silly lol, thanks!
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