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June 11, 2018, 10:49:25 PM
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What I am surprised of is that just a few people are interested in macro economic developments in the world for a realistic perspective in general. The cash flow overall is decreasing to any market because of the stressed relations between USA-China_Iran-EU-RUSSIA and the capital is seeking for a safe haven and won't take any risks.  Not only crypto world but all kind of assets are effected by these developments and we cannot just approach the crypto market neglecting the bigger figures. How are your thoughts about this, ain't we neglecting bigger facts???
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June 12, 2018, 01:51:46 AM
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Long story short because people are morons and they can't objectively view the big picture. The operative word in that sentence is objective because although people can see the big picture they often times have a delusional take on what it will be.

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June 12, 2018, 01:55:14 AM
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Long story short because people are morons and they can't objectively view the big picture. The operative word in that sentence is objective because although people can see the big picture they often times have a delusional take on what it will be.

It's not that people are morons, I mean I guess many are, but it's that how can they begin to think of things they have no concept of?
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June 12, 2018, 08:02:53 AM
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1. "The cash flow overall is decreasing to any market because of the stressed relations between USA-China_Iran-EU-RUSSIA and the capital is seeking for a safe haven and won't take any risks" --> Have you guy ever viewed DJ, S&P 500, Nasdaq indexes? Dj has significantly reached it historical peak but you are thinking of finding a vault. Are you blind or half-baked?
2. 'Not only crypto world but all kind of assets are effected" --> View gold chart and have a look at commodities charts, for example the oil chart and make a comparison yourself. If you are not wrong, can you explain the differences because it's normally explained that if global crisis happens, the gold price will gradually return its peak
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June 12, 2018, 11:39:55 AM
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1. "The cash flow overall is decreasing to any market because of the stressed relations between USA-China_Iran-EU-RUSSIA and the capital is seeking for a safe haven and won't take any risks" --> Have you guy ever viewed DJ, S&P 500, Nasdaq indexes? Dj has significantly reached it historical peak but you are thinking of finding a vault. Are you blind or half-baked?
2. 'Not only crypto world but all kind of assets are effected" --> View gold chart and have a look at commodities charts, for example the oil chart and make a comparison yourself. If you are not wrong, can you explain the differences because it's normally explained that if global crisis happens, the gold price will gradually return its peak

You are right about the current peaks, but let's look at the expectations. The market will always follow - with a slight delay- the overall political tensions. This is from the world bank:

Global growth is expected to edge down over the next two years, as global slack dissipates, trade and investment moderate, and financing conditions tighten. In EMDEs, growth in commodity importers is expected to remain robust, while the rebound in commodity exporters is projected to mature. Risks to the outlook are tilted to the downside, including the possibility of disorderly financial market movements, escalating trade protectionism, heightened policy uncertainty, and rising geopolitical tensions. EMDE policymakers need to rebuild monetary and fiscal policy buffers and boost potential growth by promoting competitiveness, adaptability to technological change, and trade openness

Investors are also aware of these and I think they will hold back jumping into immature markets. These are my personal opinions of course.
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June 12, 2018, 12:59:16 PM
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i seriously doubt that anyone is investing or ever has invested in altcoins because of the macro economic developments in the world that you are talking about here.
if what you say is true, then people look for a real safe haven with a very small risk and a stable price with possibility of a small rise at the very least. their choice (like hundreds of years) will be assets like gold. and for the past year or two they have also started considering bitcoin but never altcoins! investing in altcoins for "safe haven" is like getting out of a ditch to drop down a hell hole.

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June 12, 2018, 10:21:36 PM
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1. "The cash flow overall is decreasing to any market because of the stressed relations between USA-China_Iran-EU-RUSSIA and the capital is seeking for a safe haven and won't take any risks" --> Have you guy ever viewed DJ, S&P 500, Nasdaq indexes? Dj has significantly reached it historical peak but you are thinking of finding a vault. Are you blind or half-baked?
2. 'Not only crypto world but all kind of assets are effected" --> View gold chart and have a look at commodities charts, for example the oil chart and make a comparison yourself. If you are not wrong, can you explain the differences because it's normally explained that if global crisis happens, the gold price will gradually return its peak

But with Crypto not being in the news like it was last year, new money coming in is a whole lot less. I think that factor is significant.
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June 12, 2018, 10:29:04 PM
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I think macroeconomic factors are not much positive at the moment due to major conflicts among many countries globally that can cause panic in overall financial markets but some experts do say that such situation will benefit crypto market as money will flow from traditional markets to non traditional assets like commodities and crypro market, crypto is new so we cannot exactly say what will happen to it if some crisis arise.

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