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January 08, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
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Ok, so, enough talk.  Time for action.  Here are some skills that I need now:

1. I need somebody who knows Unix admin.  I have a VPS now that's very suitable for getting started.  I want to establish a beginning website, a public forum, and a private forum.  I want to setup a git repository there.  I need this reasonably secure.  Nobody cares to attack this at this time, but no need to leave the front door unlocked.

2. I need a build system.  I need somebody who's willing to figure out how to install QT Creator and other development tools we'll need on a Unix system, and get it working with the git repository.  We also need to figure out how to build and run the testing.

3. I need a mining pool.  There is probably open source code for this.  I need somebody to find this, install it, test it.  Make it work.

4. I need an exchange site solely for the purpose of exchanging BTC and the new mystery coin.  Again, there's probably open source code for this.  Let's figure out how to do this.

5. I need some private debate about some of the technical details of the coin such as the mining algorithm.  I'm leaning towards Scrypt because I don't want a handful of ASIC coin rapers jumping on this too quickly.  How can we keep this coin more accessible to a wider base of smaller miners?


You clearly missed out 1 thing, people with these skills(be it 1 person or more), don't need you! I have ALL the skill sets you need, but I don't see why I should help you, even IF you are willing to pay for my services(which, likely not). Seriously, if you are loaded & willing to fork out hard cash, I believe you can get the needed persons elsewhere.

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January 08, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
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Premine

Fail

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What's wrong with that?  Don't the developers deserve some piece of the action?



Because if you pre-mine your creating the coin for your own financial gain, not because you want to create a coin for the benefit of the community.


Why should he create something for your benefit?  Does your paycheck go to you or someone else?  People should invest in an idea because it solves problems in a superior fashion, not because it benefits "the community".  Socialist drivel.

Because if it's pre-mined it's not for our benefit is it. It's purely for his financial gain, and exists for no other reason.


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January 08, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
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January 08, 2014, 12:08:06 PM
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You clearly missed out 1 thing, people with these skills(be it 1 person or more), don't need you! I have ALL the skill sets you need, but I don't see why I should help you, even IF you are willing to pay for my services(which, likely not). Seriously, if you are loaded & willing to fork out hard cash, I believe you can get the needed persons elsewhere.

I have these skills as well and I'm busy grinding away at the pieces of it.  I do think this effort can go farther and faster with other developers, hence my invitation here.  And I'll admit that I'm not "loaded" and any benefit other developers will get in joining the party will come from the fun, the learning, and the pre-mining.  After further consideration there's nothing wrong with pre-mining.  It's in the open for all to see and judge for themselves.
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January 08, 2014, 12:16:48 PM
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What other methods would you envision to compensate the developers and early-adopters?

None. Satoshi has done 99.99% of the hard work for you anyway.


Very funny. Nobody works for free.  Do you? 


No one asked you to make the coin, in fact several people have asked you not to.  That's why you shouldn't be paid.  I can't turn up at a random job tomorrow and demand payment for it.
Please stop making coins. I look on this forum almst every day, but I don't recognise lots of the coins.  It is beyond a joke now. Please stop.
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No one asked you to make the coin, in fact several people have asked you not to.  That's why you shouldn't be paid.  I can't turn up at a random job tomorrow and demand payment for it.
Please stop making coins. I look on this forum almst every day, but I don't recognise lots of the coins.  It is beyond a joke now. Please stop.

1. No one asked you to make the coin.
2. Several people have asked you not to.

and therefore....

/s/h/e/'/s/ /a/ /w/i/t/c/h/, You shouldn't be paid?

I'm sorry, but I don't follow the logic here.  Nor am I "demanding" to be paid.  Everybody is free to decide what, if anything, they want to do with this coin.

As far as refraining from making a coin, why?  This whole cryptocoin enterprise is a grand experiment in monetary freedom and competition.  It's hardly run its course and there are already big concentrations of existing power emerging.  Why snip this in the bud now?
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January 09, 2014, 12:31:13 AM
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... Please stop making coins. I look on this forum almst every day, but I don't recognise lots of the coins.  It is beyond a joke now. Please stop.

A central premise of a major faction of the cryptocoin community is that cryptocoins are so decentralized that the forces of darkness can never get their chains around it.  But we can already see that premise deteriorating with BTC, specifically, and SHA-256 mining in general. One force keeping these things as "honest" as they are is the myriad of other coins and algorithms waiting to step into the void of the demise of the former.

On the most general level the cryptocoin movement has spread the entire concept of monetary freedom and competition on an enormous scale.  That's the genie that's going to be most difficult to put back in the cage. The fact that this resulting blizzard of coins is difficult for us to understand personally, makes it also difficult for the evil ones as well.

Imagine a system whereby a handful of unaccountable government institutions ran all food production and distribution.  Nobody grows a garden and only food-launderers and terrorists build farms. The managers of this system eat well, but there's an amazing scarcity for everybody else. Why is money any different?  Cryptocoins give us a way out of this pigsty.  We need more farms, and farmers, and people who know how to manage the farming enterprise, not fewer, IMHO.

It is indisputable that a proliferation of coins is occurring.  The ease of entry ensures that many more will spring to life.  The community will grow and adapt and learn how to deal with whatever issues arise. Don't you think it would be better to learn to deal with these issues than to just try to stop the tide?
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