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February 05, 2014, 06:00:08 PM
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 Probation and fines which are enough to bankrupt him and the company.  Still if the prosecutor has a strong case and is looking to prove a point, well he could go for a lot more.

After watching the New York regulatory hearings is there any doubt the prosecutor is looking to prove a point?

No doubt but I guess it comes down to how far is he willing to go.  Knowing HSBC executives for example laundered billions and faced not a day in jail will he still seek the max jail time for the employee of this company in order to prove a (hypcritical) point?  Or will he be satisfied with destroying the company along with probation and a plea?  I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I honestly doubt he will get more than 3 to 5 years. If he gets 25 years there will some backlash not cuz he did a crime but because of how unfair/balanced the punishment was.

I would agree.  But I doubt it goes to court.  The prosecutor will threaten 25 years, and settle something on the order of 3 to 5 plus ruinous fines.

How can he pay the fines? They've taken control of all his BTC. Personally, I think they will try to hammer him, but it depends very much on who he is serving up to the feds. If he spills all, he might get away with a short term. If not, 20 years.

Sometimes fines are meant as licensing fees.

Other times they are intended to ruin a company and its principals forever.

Guess which category Wachovia, HSBC and JPMorgan get, and which Charlie Shrem will get.
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February 05, 2014, 06:08:12 PM
Last edit: February 07, 2014, 08:36:18 PM by DeathAndTaxes
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 Probation and fines which are enough to bankrupt him and the company.  Still if the prosecutor has a strong case and is looking to prove a point, well he could go for a lot more.

After watching the New York regulatory hearings is there any doubt the prosecutor is looking to prove a point?

No doubt but I guess it comes down to how far is he willing to go.  Knowing HSBC executives for example laundered billions and faced not a day in jail will he still seek the max jail time for the employee of this company in order to prove a (hypcritical) point?  Or will he be satisfied with destroying the company along with probation and a plea?  I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I honestly doubt he will get more than 3 to 5 years. If he gets 25 years there will some backlash not cuz he did a crime but because of how unfair/balanced the punishment was.

I would agree.  But I doubt it goes to court.  The prosecutor will threaten 25 years, and settle something on the order of 3 to 5 plus ruinous fines.

How can he pay the fines? They've taken control of all his BTC. Personally, I think they will try to hammer him, but it depends very much on who he is serving up to the feds. If he spills all, he might get away with a short term. If not, 20 years.

Sometimes fines are meant as licensing fees.

Other times they are intended to ruin a company and its principals forever.

Guess which category Wachovia, HSBC and JPMorgan get, and which Charlie Shrem will get.

That kinda sums it up.  Fun fact for those playing at home.  You can't discharge govt fines and fees in bankruptcy.  So punitive really is punitive.

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February 07, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
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he could not resist poking the stick into the capitalist hornets nest,,,throw in some bath salts & funny money ~ good to go !

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~imho the eyebrows is what sealed the case lolllzzz^^
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February 22, 2014, 07:25:12 PM
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Pardon me for bothering but where can I find a link to read the article or whatever the first source is?
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February 22, 2014, 07:35:30 PM
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Pardon me for bothering but where can I find a link to read the article or whatever the first source is?

The first source is the complaint filed by the Manhattan US Attorney.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/January14/SchremFaiellaChargesPR/Faiella,%20Robert%20M.%20and%20Charlie%20Shrem%20Complaint.pdf

The official statement by the US Attorney's Office is here.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/January14/SchremFaiellaChargesPR.php

A link to the Reuters article quoted in the OP is the first thing in the OP.

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