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hanzac
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August 27, 2013, 07:04:15 AM
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Stupid, if you don't do something, no return. Understand?
If you want tax, just make a mining pool or an exchange. The tax is just the fee.

Think more generally, when people mine the coins, the tax is already paid as the electricity cost.

Just don't want something as granted, if you need the cash/reward/tax, please do something.
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August 27, 2013, 11:46:18 AM
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What you are proposing is called "Basic income" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income).
It's a nice idea and I had the same to implement in a crypto-currency.

But indeed the problem to solve is how to implement the Proof Of Unique Human (POUH), so that you can send the money to that account.
There is no simple solution that would not involve the state collaboration.
If you have the state collaboration, then you could just issue a citizen coin address with every ID paper.
That way you have a one to one relation between citizens and those special address.

So in the crypto-currency you will have normal address like today that can be created at will,
and citizen address that the authority can create with a special master key.
Before someone scream "state control", the only power the state would have, is to say if someone is citizen or not, the rest is automatically handled by the crypto network.

About anonymity : of course the citizen address will be not anonymous.
But once you receive your money, you can send it to normal address and then make it anonymous by using some system like zerocoin.


Maybe I have an idea how to fix that passes problem. With an autority that handles this, this authority can give out a kind of own passport.
Nothing big its just for the Coin things. The Users then would send theyr Name+State+Adress and receive there personal hash on the Postal way. The problem is that postal thing costs a bit, but it cant be the world. The Problem is to have that you need an Database to check if an user is registering twice. And this Database have to be realy safe. Does anybody here now a way to crypt any field in a safety that a check for double is possible but not a direkt read out? i have to read a bit more about that.
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August 27, 2013, 01:00:41 PM
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Maybe I have an idea how to fix that passes problem. With an autority that handles this, this authority can give out a kind of own passport.
Nothing big its just for the Coin things. The Users then would send theyr Name+State+Adress and receive there personal hash on the Postal way. The problem is that postal thing costs a bit, but it cant be the world. The Problem is to have that you need an Database to check if an user is registering twice. And this Database have to be realy safe. Does anybody here now a way to crypt any field in a safety that a check for double is possible but not a direkt read out? i have to read a bit more about that.

This won't work, because cheater could create a fake name, and some people might have 2 address.
It is a enormous task to check for POUH.

By the way I should add to my description, that the private key is not created by the state, otherwise you would have security problem with the transfer of it (as postal or whatever) and the authority could keep a copy.
So the citizen would instead send his public key, and the state would add a special flag to it in the network, saying it's a citizen address. (this way you don't have to send anything). Of course this flag could be removed in case of thief or death.
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February 19, 2014, 03:07:26 PM
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I had a few thoughts about the thing in time Cheesy But first of all I dont like the idea that any State can give out there own proof to the Peoples in it. Couse there are states out there wich I dont think would give real Data or would you want to let a state like North Korea to have the right to say how much money they get to there Peoples from the global System. I think that would make trouble. So the authority has to be a real neutral thing. Best would be an automated System. Something like a fingerprint that is used for authentication, and if a new fingerprint is detected its getting added automaticaly. But something that is not exploitable. To find something there needs a bit more abstract thinking I think. But in the end it will possible not work without an authority. Maybe there is a way to decentralise the authority but this is a realy hard task too.

But the last But Cheesy Big Things mostly needs to handle big Problems first.
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