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September 27, 2018, 01:10:28 PM
Last edit: September 27, 2018, 11:21:48 PM by ICOEthics
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What happened: POSSIBLE SCAM ICO -  

Scammers Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027175.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20180927134234/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027175.0



Scammers Website: https://thegovernment.network/
http://web.archive.org/web/20180927125523/https://thegovernment.network/
https://archive.is/5SJtU



The profile of two members of the team (of this ICO has been associated with previous scam) have been used on previous scams(s) (edited 27/09/2018)






He is a member of GREENEMINER - SCAM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4962679.0

And also a member of UNDAL.TECH - SCAM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089040.0




She is a member of GREENEMINER - SCAM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4962679.0




Undal whitepaper was uploaded to our website just in case they delete from their website.
http://icoethics.com/imgs/thegov/undal.pdf
Also archived from the original source:
http://web.archive.org/web/20180927130404/https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/505bea_bee06760a66345e29a0eecdeec47c1d9.pdf


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September 27, 2018, 08:54:55 PM
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When you say they are members of 2 previously exposed scams you mean their profiles have been used for scams, right?

I can't find anything about this ICO on their linkedin profiles and I have checked one of their ICObench profiles and also can't find any information about this one.

How strange  Roll Eyes
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September 27, 2018, 09:07:02 PM
Last edit: September 27, 2018, 09:20:53 PM by ICOEthics
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When you say they are members of 2 previously exposed scams you mean their profiles have been used for scams, right?

I can't find anything about this ICO on their linkedin profiles and I have checked one of their ICObench profiles and also can't find any information about this one.

How strange  Roll Eyes

Yes, thanks for pointing that out. We will rectify our writing. we meant to say they profile were used for previous scams.

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September 28, 2018, 07:25:21 AM
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Good morning ICOethics and Marlboroza,

Thank you for your post, I woke up in disbelief this morning and have done what I can to rectify the situation and regain your trust ASAP.

After a thorough conversation with Gaurav and Genelle I would like to present you their overview of the facts, confident that this will resolve the matter if there are additional questions please do ask as it is of great importance to Gaurav, Genelle, me personally and the project that this issue gets resolved and clarified.

Regarding GreenEMiner, I quote Gaurav:

‘GreenEcoMiner, as it was then called, had contacted our business development reps back in March or even earlier, asking for support on launching an ICO. Following which we had taken part in extensive conversations over Telegram with one member of their team. Since June, nothing progressed, and the team decided to not pursue the project any further. Since June, there has been no conversation with anyone from their team, except once with the same representative with me directly informing me that they couldn't use GreenEcoMiner and had to change it to GreenEMiner. He had also indicated that they did not wish to conduct any kind of free or paid marketing activities for their project and wished to conduct a "Civic-like" ICO, only publishing content about their plans and efforts, and that they were doing very well, reaching all their pre-ICO caps. That was the last conversation with them regarding that - which was possibly prior to their website being up and prior to them being listed anywhere. In addition, there's no documentation from either side regarding joining their team or doing any kind of work with them regarding their ICO, from anyone on the Alpha Bet team (my company together with my partner Genelle). They have effectively kept our profiles on their documentation and website under wraps and any concerns regarding them being a scam is news to us as well, as we have not ever followed up or had any conversations with them since prior to their ICO going public.’

Regarding Undal Tech, I quote Gaurav:

‘Regarding Undal Tech - Unlike GreenEMiner, Undal is actually an ICO that I have spoken with when they required assistance in Marketing and strategy. I have a contract with them with terms of me joining and aiding the project post them reaching soft cap. This was also around June/July, and since then their ICO has been pushed for the foreseeable future. In Undal's case, however, I actually do not feel it's a scam. They tried to run an ICO, hit roadblocks, and then postponed all activity prior to releasing any tokens or accepting any investment. As far as I am aware, they are still working on development right now and partnering with many advisory and financial firms in various parts of the world in order to be able to push out prototypes. If they are implicated in any kind of scam, I have not been privy to it and would like to be made aware so I could possibly address those concerns or, if based on fact, cut ties.’

As mentioned supra, please do not hesitate to ask me any further questions as for the sake of the future of our project, I don’t want any doubts.


Furthermore, if you would like to contact Gaurav directly you can do so via his telegram @GauravArengChakraverti

I hope that the above provides you with clarity if you would like to have a mobile conversation with me to address further doubts please do not hesitate t: @jens_lievens

Best regards,

Jens Lievens

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