A board for Privacy, Security, and online Safety?

[Saint-loup]

Looks like the recent discussion is going a bit off-topic.

The idea of a new board for this topic is good, but I won't hope too much. Last time I checked in my local board, the local board update suggestion is not yet implemented/updated by theymos. So, it's probably on the last of the priority list.

Someone should open a poll about this request IMHO, if there are lots of votes, administrators will certainly accept to create a subsection for sercurity/privacy questions somewhere in the forum.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Also Privacy and security get complicated  if a thread has bad info  about

Threads on these subjects already have misleading or incorrect information in them, as do many threads on every board. Thankfully there are plenty of knowledgeable members around to clarify and correct misinformation, and there is no reason why a Security and Privacy board would be any different.

I'm fairly certain that the reason for this is not a lack of information (we live in the age thereof) but rather a lack of motivation or incentive to do so.

Agreed. A couple of stickied threads at the top of a Privacy and Security board explaining some basic concepts, much like we have with the stickied thread about wallets in Beginners and Help, could help to address this.

Opera is a better choice than Brave I think. It has a built in VPN too.

It's not a true VPN, just a proxy server for the browser. It routes your traffic through a server hosted by SurfEasy, whose Privacy Policy includes logging "Temporary usage data" and "Internet and data traffic, such as destination website or IP address and originating IP address". I wouldn't use it.

[philipma1957]

Also Privacy and security get complicated  if a thread has bad info  about

Threads on these subjects already have misleading or incorrect information in them, as do many threads on every board. Thankfully there are plenty of knowledgeable members around to clarify and correct misinformation, and there is no reason why a Security and Privacy board would be any different.

I'm fairly certain that the reason for this is not a lack of information (we live in the age thereof) but rather a lack of motivation or incentive to do so.

Agreed. A couple of stickied threads at the top of a Privacy and Security board explaining some basic concepts, much like we have with the stickied thread about wallets in Beginners and Help, could help to address this.

Opera is a better choice than Brave I think. It has a built in VPN too.

It's not a true VPN, just a proxy server for the browser. It routes your traffic through a server hosted by SurfEasy, whose Privacy Policy includes logging "Temporary usage data" and "Internet and data traffic, such as destination website or IP address and originating IP address". I wouldn't use it.

I would not mind a sticked thread  or two about privacy and security somewhere on the board.

They go hand in hand.

Wallet safety
Password safety
How anonymous do I want to be.
Browser choices.

Privacy routers
Privacy devices

Would be  nice to know where to look.
Since all of the above it scattered about the forum. It would be nice to find it more quickly.

[amishmanish]

Thanks o_e_l_e_o for linking to this thread. @20Kevin20 started a discussion on how bitcoin has changed over the years and how bitcoin is no longer bitcoin due to privacy issues. There were a few typical "There are no more true bitcoiner" posts. In a hurried, emotional response, I went on a rant about how bitcoin's role isn't just privacy but that we should focus more on additional features and bitcoin adoption. Excellent posts by @o_e_l_e_o (Here) and @20kevin20 (Here) made me realize that we are not making it clear enough that how privacy can actually be maintained (with a bit of effort) and that we all should be insisting and using non-KYC outlets without the fear of being labeled negatively.

I ended up lamenting how @Theymos has shown tacit approval of a "default privacy" coin like Grin and maybe we should have a dedicated sub for privacy related issues. This is really very important. A subs requirement shouldn't just be based on how many posts are there but how important it is for Bitcoin. As we ended up agreeing, Bitcoin advocacy should go hand in hand with privacy advocacy.

Its a great idea to have have an educational, privacy focussed sub where we can talk about everything from PGP to backdoors in hardware (Why US govt is so uneasy about Huawei network equipmet). Its understood that people cannot always delete their footprint, yet they should have the requisite awareness as well as knowledge to make sure they have a life away from the prying eyes of surveillance state. Only then it can become a norm to believe that individuals have a right of privacy which is as fundamental as the right to life and liberty. These are enough reason to have a privacy related sub. Like @mocacinno listed here, There are excellent topics for discussion on this topic.

PS: I am not sure if @Theymos looks at these posts and thinks, "God, Do i have to do everything?" "When will these people grow out of my forum and do something themselves, if ever?"