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October 11, 2018, 01:52:23 PM
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It always baffles me that people would use alternative "medicines" that either have been proven not to work, or in this case, actively make things worse.

I agree with this, but I would like to add that there are some "alternative medicines" that actually do work and have been proven to be effective.

One example would be using ginger to treat motion sickness.  Ginger has been shown to be more effective at eliminating motion sickness than the modern medicine (Dramamine).  Dramamine has negative side-effects, which ginger does not have.

I would recommend anyone take ginger to treat motion sickness, rather than dramamine.

I'm not claiming "The Mythbusters" are actual scientists, but their experiment has been duplicated with the same results... ginger cures seasickness/motion sickness:
MythBusters - S03E20 - Seasickness - Kill or Cure
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6pcjx8
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October 11, 2018, 01:54:47 PM
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Homeopathic ; Ayurveda medicines are alternative having no side effects.

The reason homeopathic "medicines" have no side effects because is because they have no effects whatsoever. They are sham water tablets. Go peddle your scam elsewhere please.


Regular consumption of modern medicines actually decreases resistance power of body that is why the effect of homeo or ayurveda is late on such persons.

Yoga and Pranayam (deep breathing exercise) definitely show positive results in 3-6 months; and it is just for free.
I have no problem if it is called scam  Smiley my objective just to inform whatever good I know.
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October 11, 2018, 02:14:35 PM
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One example would be using ginger to treat motion sickness.  Ginger has been shown to be more effective at eliminating motion sickness than the modern medicine (Dramamine).

I agree there are some herbal remedies that have some actual effects - indeed, many modern medicines were isolated/purified/derived from plants and herbs. The evidence for ginger is very inconclusive, however, with some studies stating it is "superior to dimenhydrinate" as you said, but other studies (1, 2) finding "ginger does not possess antimotion sickness activity" and was no different to placebo.


I have no problem if it is called scam  Smiley my objective just to inform whatever good I know.

Consider me now well informed of your pseudo-scientific heavy metal poisoning sham. I will be doubly careful not to willingly ingest arsenic and lead in the future. Roll Eyes
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October 11, 2018, 02:18:16 PM
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Homeopathic ; Ayurveda medicines are alternative having no side effects.

The reason homeopathic "medicines" have no side effects because is because they have no effects whatsoever. They are sham water tablets. Go peddle your scam elsewhere please.


Regular consumption of modern medicines actually decreases resistance power of body that is why the effect of homeo or ayurveda is late on such persons.

Modern medicine is typically designed to treat the symptoms, rather than cure the disease.  Your body will often react to the increased chemicals, and reduce it's own natural production of similar chemicals.  This is why people have withdrawals when quitting certain medicines/drugs.  Some medicines can even be deadly to quit "cold turkey"

You also have a problem with things like antibiotics being overused, which leads to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria like Gonorrhea, MRSA and Legionnaires

Yoga and Pranayam (deep breathing exercise) definitely show positive results in 3-6 months; and it is just for free.
I have no problem if it is called scam  Smiley my objective just to inform whatever good I know.

Yes and no...

Meditation has been shown to be effective for treating stress and anxiety, but it isn't going to cure any serious illness that isn't caused by your own mind.  Granted, there are a multitude of psychosomatic illnesses which meditation can treat/cure
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October 11, 2018, 02:30:49 PM
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Modern Medicines are of great help in case of extreme emergency cases.  Life threats must be dealt immediately with these medicines to save life.  But using it for each and every sickness is very much dangerous.  All these medicines have side effects.  If these cure one decease; they generate several reasons for new start of other deceases.  There are some common deceases like blood pressure ; blood sugar; where these medicines have completely failed.  The patient has to consume pills for life time.  These do not cure; just suppress the level of BP or sugar, cholesterol etc.  Not even a single man is cured by using these medicines.  If you continuously consume cholesterol medicine; after 2-3 years it will be affecting your bones; kidney etc.  So IMO that it is just foolish to use this lifetime.

Homeopathic ; Ayurveda medicines are alternative having no side effects.  I also suggest if one has option to use either of these two ; they should prefer these only.  And if your baby suffers from some decease ; never make him habitual of modern medicine.  Always get treatment for the baby from Ayurveda / Homeopathic doctor.  

Third and best option is Yoga and pranayam.  Yoga is not just physical exercise.  If you can spare one hour a day in the morning; I guarantee that you will see the  results in just 3-6 months.  Your efficiency will increase.  There is no decease in the universe which can not be cured under this system for if not 100% but for +95% cases.  If you get your training from some expert trainer for few months it will be better.  Or else your can follow . world famous Yoga master Swami Ramdev on facebook twitter etc.  His videos are uploaded on you tube also.  
https://twitter.com/yogrishiramdev
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=swami%20ramdev%20yoga%20classic
https://www.facebook.com/NewsNationChannel/videos/1324166504347714/

If one visits India ; can visit his Ashram (institution)  the Patanjali Yogpeeth at Hardwar where he himself conducts yoga classes.  Stay; food of good quality is also available there.  You may learn by watching his videos too.  
In addition to above Pranayama (deep breathing exercise) if done for half an hour.  99.9% deceases can be cured.  It is just free no fee.  But with best results.
I have experienced yoga and pranayam. Smiley

Putting a name on something does not make it any more valuable. Ayurveda medicines?  Never heard of it.

You might get really sick eating herbs, following a vegan, Ayurveda, vegetarian or traditional diet.  You really have to know where the fish, meat, eggs, your fruits, and vegetables come from.  Just because you call yourself Ayurveda or Vegan will not make you healthy.  

Reducing stress, eating mostly plant-based diet, with lots of physical exercise (I recommend calisthenics) is the way to go.  Learn how to cook, stop eating out, stop consuming processed food, stop smoking, drinking alcohol, read the labels etc. that is the fastest way to become healthy.  Walk or run every day, do push-ups, pull-ups, muscle-ups every day and you will feel and look good.

Relaxation and meditation I have not tried, I'll give it a go.   Seems like a good idea.  

PS.  If you have a stressful job, change it or retire early.

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October 12, 2018, 02:11:56 AM
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Putting a name on something does not make it any more valuable. Ayurveda medicines?  Never heard of it.

You might get really sick eating herbs, following a vegan, Ayurveda, vegetarian or traditional diet.  You really have to know where the fish, meat, eggs, your fruits, and vegetables come from.  Just because you call yourself Ayurveda or Vegan will not make you healthy.  

Reducing stress, eating mostly plant-based diet, with lots of physical exercise (I recommend calisthenics) is the way to go.  Learn how to cook, stop eating out, stop consuming processed food, stop smoking, drinking alcohol, read the labels etc. that is the fastest way to become healthy.  Walk or run every day, do push-ups, pull-ups, muscle-ups every day and you will feel and look good.

Relaxation and meditation I have not tried, I'll give it a go.   Seems like a good idea.  

PS.  If you have a stressful job, change it or retire early.
I agree eating plant based diet; and physical excercise is also definitely very good.  Walking running too help; eating outside is big threat to health.
Ayurveda medicines (Originated in India);  made of herbs, in few cases gold, silver, diamond too used.  Due to excessive advertisements ; fast results (though with side effects) people in India  started consuming modern chemical based medicines.  But now people here are shifting towards ayurveda.  
Meditation with deep breathing (long inhales and stopping inside; then ex hale)  will give double benefit.  It cures physical (due to more oxygen going to lungs ) and mental stress too. Help of light music also helps getting good results because the mind concentrates more.  Or else we should concentrate on our breathe.  This itself is enough.  If done sitting straight; spine straight eyes closed; long breathe; concentrating on breath or music; I am sure one can enjoy the bliss of meditation very shortly.   Smiley
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October 12, 2018, 05:32:28 PM
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Ayurveda medicines (Originated in India);  made of herbs, in few cases gold, silver, diamond too used.

Also lead, arsenic, mercury and cadmium. Ayurveda is literal poison.


started consuming modern chemical based medicines.

Using the word chemical in a negative fashion is either deliberately misleading or pure ignorance. Everything is chemicals. Literally everything is chemicals. Water. Oxygen. Food. Your precious herbs. All chemicals.


Meditation with deep breathing (long inhales and stopping inside; then ex hale)  will give double benefit.  It cures physical (due to more oxygen going to lungs ) and mental stress too.

Can you provide evidence of a single disease (any disease) that is cured by deep breathing as you claim?
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October 13, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
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One example would be using ginger to treat motion sickness.  Ginger has been shown to be more effective at eliminating motion sickness than the modern medicine (Dramamine).

I agree there are some herbal remedies that have some actual effects - indeed, many modern medicines were isolated/purified/derived from plants and herbs. The evidence for ginger is very inconclusive, however, with some studies stating it is "superior to dimenhydrinate" as you said, but other studies (1, 2) finding "ginger does not possess antimotion sickness activity" and was no different to placebo.

It's possible it was simply a placebo effect.  Even in the mythbuster's episode, Adam fell for the placebo (B-12 vitamin pill)

Another variable would be the season in which the ginger was picked... not all plants produce the same chemicals during spring/summer/fall/winter... it might need to be harvested during the correct season to have anti-motion sickness chemicals

This is why we have science... to find the truth behind the anecdotes... assuming there is an anti-motion-sickness chemical in ginger, it will eventually be found and isolated (or debunked as a myth)

Go Science!
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