Confused about data usage of mining.

[Offgridprofessor]

I did a few searches googled.
Found a post or. 2 on how much data usage to expect through the internet connection.
2mb and max 10 mb.
Then i get to the bitcoin sit and see. Minimum requirments 500Mb per day (15GB per month) download
And upload at 5GB per day (150GB per month)
 So what is it?
Such a small amount that you wont even notice or uploading so much data the your service provider shuts you down?
Im interested in seting up a pair of s9 units
And a computer all on solar and just leave them running .
Im off grid completely use a single phone hot spot as a data line to a tower with very few users.
Last month i downloaded 188 gigs data through the hotspot.
But not sure about building a dedicated system to run a pair of s9 units
If the data requirments cant be met for an independent system.
Im not really interested in plugging into a pool unless its a set of local people here near me.

Could any one answer whats really going to be needed to setup. A small farm or small local pool and how much data will be used?

[jackg]

If you'll want a pool you'll need an initial download of the blockchain which is about 200gb.

If you want to connect to a pool and mine I don't know how much data it'll take but if you can still plug 3 mining rigs into one control computer I'm guessing less data will be used.

[Offgridprofessor]

I think i found an answer to my question.
Just mining uses little data, 2 to 10 mb
Becoming part of the peer to peer network is where the upload data requirements can exceed 200 gigs data per month.
Ive also though these requirements for upload bandwidth could be a reason for the loss of decentralization.
The peer to peer nodes are the backbones of what makes bitcoin work.
If every mining operation was required to maintain a single peer at its location and every location a single peer.
The entire backbone would become more and more decentralized.
As i understand. Most miners are not part of the actual peer to peer only accessing the peer to peer network to authenticate or transfer. Might be wrong there as ive only been reading for a few hours.
But isnt the system better suited to having more peers with smaller upload data requirments over a broader area.
My community has crap service most if not all isp services provid a 1-10 system to their cuztomers.
Or 1mb uploads for 10 mb down. The systems are designed to allow streaming but uploading is slow.
A majority of the services are completely unreliable
And most never do better than 5mb down on a good day.
The luck of my homes location allows me to get much better service and data rates that are twice as fast as the 3 towns i live close to.
Id love to build a system for connecting to the peer to peer and a bit of mining but not really at a cost that would exceed the value of the contribution or its ability to actually function and generate a small revenue.
Im still learning, and will be making a 10kw system to run a couple of s9 units and a new linux os build.
And would like to join the peer to peer network but the data requirements just ended that.
If the peer to peer isnt adjusted to expand its size and grow more and more decentralized i believe it will eventually get consumed by the monster that eats all.

 

[Artemis3]

I did a few searches googled.
Found a post or. 2 on how much data usage to expect through the internet connection.
2mb and max 10 mb.
Then i get to the bitcoin sit and see. Minimum requirments 500Mb per day (15GB per month) download
And upload at 5GB per day (150GB per month)
 So what is it?
Such a small amount that you wont even notice or uploading so much data the your service provider shuts you down?
Im interested in seting up a pair of s9 units
And a computer all on solar and just leave them running .
Im off grid completely use a single phone hot spot as a data line to a tower with very few users.
Last month i downloaded 188 gigs data through the hotspot.
But not sure about building a dedicated system to run a pair of s9 units
If the data requirments cant be met for an independent system.
Im not really interested in plugging into a pool unless its a set of local people here near me.

Could any one answer whats really going to be needed to setup. A small farm or small local pool and how much data will be used?

I measured this before, a single S9 consumes about 1~2KB/sec, thats 60KB~120KB in a minute, 3MB~7MB an hour, 86MB~172MB a day, 2.5GB~5GB a month per unit.

What you saw at the web site, might have been the requirements to run a node. You will not run a node, your pool operator is running one for you.
And you definitely don't want to run your own pool, everyone in your community should connect to a larger pool if you want to have any sort of regular income (you could all use ck's proxy if you wanted to look like a single miner, but data savings doing that are negligible). Soloing is out of the question, the chances of hitting a block are lower than the universe suddenly ending or close...

[jackg]

For a lot of people this isn't an issue. There are users here such as Jet Cash who maintain bitcoin nodes by using WiFi from restaurants while either in the restaurant or the car park.

A lot of us also have uncensored broadband. All we really need to try to do is get some of the more honest pools a bit higher. Slush seems to be considered quite an honest pool and ck for solomining. Bit fury doesn't seem much of a damaging company either.

The issue with not mining bitcoin from a pool means you don't get a constant income. You can try it if you want to though if you can find a solution to your problems of data usage...

The network is already semi centralised because to run a node there are a group of nodes that are trusted and run that are hard coded into the software.

[BitMaxz]

Bitcoin mining with S9 doesn't need too much internet data bandwidth usage I think 10-30gb monthly is enough(150gb monthly is too much).  The important you need to maintain on mining with s9 is the internet "ping" you need a stable internet connection to make your miner running without rejected stale shares.

If you want to dig more about how much data you can spend with 2 s9 I think it is better to start on monitoring your data daily or monthly until you get how much data you spend for 2 s9 miners then you can buy enough monthly internet data for your miner because there is no exactly how much data bandwidth that s9 usage.

Also check this similar thread below and maybe you can get some idea.
- Internet usage budget
- How much Data Traffic needs an Antminer S9?
- Mining internet bandwidth usage?

[Offgridprofessor]

Thanks for the replies,
Its the nodes nodes. That have the high data requirments.
Its a node i was interested in building with a pair of miners to go along with it.
Its looking like a bad investment to me.
Was simply interested in creating a small revenue generator together to grow over time.
Looks like the power hungry needs of the s9s and the data needs of the node would generate a negitive income for the next year.
I dont know why the part of the system that makes it all work gets nothing. Nodes.
Miners get every thing but only if your willing to gain little so the big miners gain most.
If the requirments to mine were to have a node then things would balance over time.
For every mine a node and a single node for every mine.
As it is im out.
Not worth investing in for a small node or mine. As well as the collapsing of the bigger miners cost of power requirment. Better luck paning gold on the beaches of Florida