We need to create a independent mobile device

[Reid]

We are far from this but if someone can invent a phone like this, then I will switch on that right away.

The phone makers are so busy focusing on their CAMERAS and other useless things aside from the hype, and they don't even care if they are just depending into some 3rd party apps because the users will suffer on that anyway but its good to know that Huawei successfully made their own App store and continues to develop and improve their phones. Independent mobile devices can help us to be more secured and become more anonymous, but then again the giant companies will not let this thing to happen as easy as we think.

Yeah, I second on that.
I will buy it immediately rather than just buying Iphones which upgrades in numbers. 

I love tweaking my phone before. Changing Rom and also made themes and Live Wallpapers myself until I got my phone into soft brick.
Well if this new phone can withstand all that tweaking that will happen then it will be great for us.
But how about the larger percentage of people who cannot understand that or doesn't have enough time to do so?

It will cost the manufacturer a lot if there is not enough buyers.
Still, the user-friendly mobile device will be on top. We can use Linux vs Windows as an example but in the market of mobile devices competition is higher.

[hatshepsut93]

That is true, all of it, and it's unfortunate.  And I know that what's really needed (an honest, privacy-centric OS developer) is just a pipe dream.

Eh, I worded my post a bit poorly, the OS isn't the main problem, there are open source OS for mobile platforms, the problem is hardware, unlike with desktops, it's much harder to install another OS on your mobile device, so what's actually needed is independent, privacy-respecting hardware, but there's no market for that, so it would be really hard for such company to compete. Though maybe in the future it would be easy to make DIY phones, based on microcomputers like Rasberry Pi.

[DaveF]

There are a few open source mobile phones that you can purchase now:

PinePhone:  https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
Pro5: https://www.meizu.com/en/products/pro5ubuntu/summary.html
Librem: https://puri.sm/products/ (available soon)

The main problem is getting developers to write software for your device. If you just want phone / text then fine.
If you want some basic apps, like web browsing and email probably simple to get too.
Having Microsoft port Outlook, or Hulu write a native app for it?
That is going to take some work.

-Dave

[el kaka22]

It would be quite silly to start something this based on what they did to epic games, considering it is just one tiny game (well maybe not tiny but seriously unimportant) I would be really shocked to see a huge uproar from people because of this. But do you know what I would "want" instead of what I would expect? I would want it to happen and I would get one right away. F! Apple and all other companies who take monopoly over these things, there should not be a phone with a shop or anything, there should be a phone and people who want to download stuff to their phone goes to the website of that thing and download it, easy peasy, there is no third party.

I would really love to see something like that, it would hurt the independents probably but at least it would be free of company dictatorship over our phones.

[TheGreatPython]

We need to create a independent mobile device

Here is one of the reasons why we need a mobile device that is not depending on app store or google play

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21366438/apple-fortnite-ios-app-store-violations-epic-payments

It sounds like a good idea, but it’s not. And by the way Google Android and IOS are very popular, I don’t know if there is going to be another OS that will be able to reach that standard, although I think Huawei might be making attempt towards since they were banned by the US to use the Android OS. They (Huawei) introduced their own OS that is called Oak OS, but I don’t know much about this because I no longer make use of Huawei, it’s been a long time I made use of an Huawei device, now I am making use of IOS, that’s what works for me.

I have not even seen anyone talking about the Oak, unless they will be able to penetrate the Asian market with that system, mostly people prefer Android and iOS, and nothing more. And as for having an open OS, people will be taking risk using such system and I don’t think I would.

[sheenshane]

I have not even seen anyone talking about the Oak, unless they will be able to penetrate the Asian market with that system, mostly people prefer Android and iOS, and nothing more.

This Oak OS if I'm not mistaken is the other term of "HongMeng OS" from China and Oak for the overseas market in Huawei brand. See this article.

Imagine, among billions of people in this earth, only a few likes to own an independent mobile device, and pondering about it, if you want to make good money with your business then you should think that a good partner even it is a third party but it helps your business at all then you should go for it.? Money Making doesn't t go with a few numbers but a huge amount of supporters. It's better to make watch youtube videos, root your phone and then install a new OS and also create your own apps if you like. That's it.

[akram143]

When you said we then it is not possible to create an independent mobile device because not everyone is a techy to understand these things.Better don't use smartphones if we don't want our privacy to be invaded.Jailbreaking and rooting can do the needed things? Possibly if we overwrite with custom flash then it is possible to change the root permissions but it could do more harm than good for someone who don't understand these things.

If we intend to jailbreak or rooting our phones, viruses and malwares would be vulnerable on our smartphones. Creating an independent mobile devices or smartphones created by ourselves is difficult, especially if we don't have any knowledge building computers or robots, and we don't take IT courses. It is why if you really want to protect your privacy or personal information, never used any social media sites using your real identity for you to protect yourself.

As I said, getting root access can help us to change the permissions, so we can disable location access but definitely it is going to cause malfunctioning while running apps.

[jaysabi]

We need to create a independent mobile device

Here is one of the reasons why we need a mobile device that is not depending on app store or google play

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21366438/apple-fortnite-ios-app-store-violations-epic-payments

There might be fortnite players strongly supporting this decision , see the thing is these large companies are doing nothing but using the small developers and paying even less than a minimum wage to a worker working for them in underdeveloped and developing countries.

All they care about is profit.

Problem with this would be : security

But at the same time we can create a third party open source system which might run on blockchain and at the same time get the thing done.The small developers can work together to make it secure and this way they can even beat the google play and even apple with right direction.

This will indeed start a revolution.

Apple after asking word press showed how greedy and jealous these big companies are, I like the idea but execution will be a little difficult.

How is a phone operating system going  to run on blockchain? Honestly, people just throw blockchain out as a solution to everything without giving it any thought about if it's actually a solution or just a bunch of buzzwords strung together into a sentence. If things are truly as bad as everyone is claiming with Apple, then there is a huge incentive for a competitor to come and do things properly. That's not the case though. But Apple has a strong disincentive to allow anyone to jack around with their operating system since they won't be able to control any of the adverse consequences.  There's a reason the majority of android phones are infected with unknown malware and Apple phones are largely unaffected by it.