Packing the Supreme Court is an attack on Democracy

[squatz1]

Packing the Supreme Court is a horrible idea. But it’s not only a terrible idea because the precedent that FDR set is one that includes him (due to him being painted as a dictator) losing a large amount of congressional power, but also because of the precedent that it sets for the NEXT president.

People seem to forget that if a President is allowed to go over the ‘limit’ (I use this in quotes as there is no real limit), the next President will go over this same limit. All this leads to is more partisan judges being appointed, and we’re back to square one as there’s no ‘winning’ in this situation.

All this does is set a precedent that the court has no real meaning, and that the party in power is going to have control over the court as they will appoint tons of their justices. While this plan that I’ve established only works when the Presidents party has control of the Senate, it still is something that could happen on multiple occasions. Let us establish an example for a second, let's say that President Obama in the start of his term appointed 15 liberal justices to the court. Okay, all well and good because at the time of his presidency his party had control of the Senate -- which means, if we as a nation have completely stopped caring for checks and balances and allow the President to turn into a mini-dictator and control another body that is supposed to check him (which is the given in this situation), then the President will successfully get his 15 liberal justices on the court and will be loved by progressives.

But wait, Conservatives are angry, and they elect Donald J. Trump, he then appoints 30 Conservative justices to the court, ‘big league’ as he says, and with the Republican party's control of the Senate, they will be able to run the court as well.

People will always forget about the long term in the embrace of the short term gains, that is why court packing is a horrible idea that would ruin a crucial check on the other branches of government. All this idea does is turn the Supreme Court (and other courts) from a large check on other government powers, into a slave to the executive that has a large membership and turnover with new administrations.

Anyone that points to the fact that President Trump making too many picks and turning the court ‘too conservative’ as a reason for introducing court packing, is not only small minded, but they are one that is hypocrites, as Obama picked the SAME amount of justices within his first term (Kagan and Sotomayor were both appointed in the first term) with democratic majorities to support his pick.

Packing the Court articles:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/democratic-presidential-candidates-face-calls-to-embrace-supreme-court-overhaul-11553518800
https://townhall.com/columnists/pauljacob/2019/03/24/meet-the-democrats-who-want-to-pack-the-supreme-court-n2543606

Does anyone agree/disagree? Thoughts?

[Spendulus]

Packing the Supreme Court is a horrible idea. But it’s not only a terrible idea because the precedent that FDR set is one that includes him (due to him being painted as a dictator) losing a large amount of congressional power, but also because of the precedent that it sets for the NEXT president. ....
Does anyone agree/disagree? Thoughts?

Technically you are correct, but the Democrats seek to grab power over the country once and for all. Then there would not be Republican presidents to follow, ever.

They want a country with one political party. Theirs. And at this time it's a political party with no goals other than this massive power grab.

The tactics to achieve this include massive immigration to certain states to flip those states, coupled with courts that toe the line. Tactics include no voter ID, lowering voter age, many other things. These are all right out in the open.

The reason for the uproar over Trump's election is that they thought they had achieved this with Obama, then Hillary. Hillary would have just mopped up the details.

They were wrong. But they have not given up.

[BADecker]

The Supreme Court exists as a balance of power in the government corporation. The only reason why it messes in affairs not government is that people ask it to.

[r1s2g3]

They want a country with one political party. Theirs. And at this time it's a political party with no goals other than this massive power grab.

I thought Trump was supported by Russians but look like he is more impressed by Chinese.
I think Trump never won the election ,it was Hillary who lost the election.
I guess he is in hurry, might be he will not get another term.

[BADecker]

They want a country with one political party. Theirs. And at this time it's a political party with no goals other than this massive power grab.

Right! The Supreme Court has turned into the one important political party.

[TECSHARE]

The left won't be happy until they destroy the trust of all of our institutions and start a civil war. The problem is they are too dumb to realize that is where they are headed before it is too late, and by then they will have already made themselves marks so they will feel as if they have no choice but to continue.

[Spendulus]

The left won't be happy until they destroy the trust of all of our institutions and start a civil war. The problem is they are too dumb to realize that is where they are headed before it is too late, and by then they will have already made themselves marks so they will feel as if they have no choice but to continue.

Is that why they're always babbling about taking guns away?

[Beerwizzard]

Trump is doing absolutely the same things as any Democrat would do, there is nothing special here.
But the other point that imho the American Supreme Court is still a reputable body.  Republican and Democrat judges do not behave themselves like rep and dem community. While all over the internet democrats are keep throwing shit on republicans, judges are playing golf with each other and always demonstrate  that their political sights do not have any influence on their work.
For now there is no problem in court like being too dem or too rep.

[DireWolfM14]

The Democrats used to be a party of liberal ideology that still lived within the realms of reality.  Not anymore.  Now they are power hungry, yet devoid of practical policies.  Their only hope for obtaining that power is to pull on the heart-strings of the emotionally virtuous among us.  There is no room for logical discourse when they insist that they hold the moral high-ground.

The far leftists that currently have the Democratic party in a choke-hold must never be allowed to gain power.