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May 24, 2019, 01:41:40 PM
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Theresa May has just announced her resignation (effective on June 7th) This may potentially pave the way for a more pro-Brexit Conservative to take the PM post and to deliver a 'no deal Brexit'

May has constantly been using the term 'Brexit means Brexit' while not delivering on that promise, which has angered many conservatives who want to leave the EU. While I don't know if a disorderly exit is the one that should be done, I do think that the voters have voted and if the only thing that can be agreed upon the house of commons is to leave with no deal, then you must leave with no deal and negotiate trade deals and such later.

What does everyone here think about this news?




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May 24, 2019, 02:23:55 PM
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Theresa May has just announced her resignation (effective on June 7th) This may potentially pave the way for a more pro-Brexit Conservative to take the PM post and to deliver a 'no deal Brexit'

May has constantly been using the term 'Brexit means Brexit' while not delivering on that promise, which has angered many conservatives who want to leave the EU. While I don't know if a disorderly exit is the one that should be done, I do think that the voters have voted and if the only thing that can be agreed upon the house of commons is to leave with no deal, then you must leave with no deal and negotiate trade deals and such later.

What does everyone here think about this news?

i am not surprised, the brits decided to dissolve themselves this is another step in their low condition

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May 25, 2019, 12:23:41 PM
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I'm sorry because of her.
She really tried her best in order to successfully implement Brexit but the members of her own party turned against her.
She didn't have any chance to win in this dirty game for the leadership in the party and government.
Once again, personal, selfish interests of one person, Boris, were more important than national and European interests.

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May 25, 2019, 12:44:14 PM
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I'm sorry because of her.
She really tried her best in order to successfully implement Brexit but the members of her own party turned against her.
She didn't have any chance to win in this dirty game for the leadership in the party and government.
Once again, personal, selfish interests of one person, Boris, were more important than national and European interests.

uk main parties will not survive brexit

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May 25, 2019, 07:37:31 PM
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Teresa May is very anti-Trump, and it does not surprise me to see she is unwilling to accept multiple election results all pointing to the UK wanting to leave the EU. There was the Brexit referendum in 2016 that obviously showed the UK people wanting to leave the EU, and multiple general elections in which the pro-leave party was elected to power.

I don't think a "no deal" Brexit is necessarily the best way to leave the EU because this would make it more difficult for those in the UK to trade with and conduct business with those in the EU. The best solution would be one that includes few or no trade barriers between the UK and EU, including tariffs, regulations, and government subsidies. I don't think it is reasonable for any deal to include zero regulations between the UK and EU, but any deal with few regulations would be good. 
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Teresa May is very anti-Trump, and it does not surprise me to see she is unwilling to accept multiple election results all pointing to the UK wanting to leave the EU. There was the Brexit referendum in 2016 that obviously showed the UK people wanting to leave the EU, and multiple general elections in which the pro-leave party was elected to power.

I don't think a "no deal" Brexit is necessarily the best way to leave the EU because this would make it more difficult for those in the UK to trade with and conduct business with those in the EU. The best solution would be one that includes few or no trade barriers between the UK and EU, including tariffs, regulations, and government subsidies. I don't think it is reasonable for any deal to include zero regulations between the UK and EU, but any deal with few regulations would be good.  

jes a referendum with 52/48 percent is obvious, especially if the drunkards that voted there started to get fired some time later after the referendum because the factories they worked in started to close down.

the eu would be much smarted to do a no deal brexit, because its much more powerful, then all british businessmen would settle in eastern europe and fix the poverty there and help tax earning.

the eastern european states will 100% push for no deal together with france. just because of that reason

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May 26, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
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Teresa May is very anti-Trump, and it does not surprise me to see she is unwilling to accept multiple election results all pointing to the UK wanting to leave the EU. There was the Brexit referendum in 2016 that obviously showed the UK people wanting to leave the EU, and multiple general elections in which the pro-leave party was elected to power.

I don't think a "no deal" Brexit is necessarily the best way to leave the EU because this would make it more difficult for those in the UK to trade with and conduct business with those in the EU. The best solution would be one that includes few or no trade barriers between the UK and EU, including tariffs, regulations, and government subsidies. I don't think it is reasonable for any deal to include zero regulations between the UK and EU, but any deal with few regulations would be good. 

Scorpio above me doesn't understand that when the people vote that means they've spoken -- a majority of the country voted to leave, and that means that its a clear decision by a majority of the electorate.

I don't think a no deal is a good idea too, but if it must be done, then it must be done. You're right about the fact that having trade barriers does make trade harder and such -- I do hope that there are no barriers to trade, and the UK can be given its sovereignty back instead of the EU telling them what to do.

We'll see what happens though.




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May 26, 2019, 09:45:21 PM
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jes a referendum with 52/48 percent is obvious, especially if the drunkards that voted there started to get fired some time later after the referendum because the factories they worked in started to close down.
A referendum with 52% of the vote means whichever side got 52% (in this case the Brexit side) won the referendum, and has prevailed.

I disagree with your conclusion that Brexit will cause much harm to the UK economy, but even if this was true, leaving the UK and having this harm is within its citizens rights.

The UK held subsequent elections after the Brexit referendum and the party whose platform is "Brexit" has won these elections.

I don't think a no deal is a good idea too, but if it must be done, then it must be done. You're right about the fact that having trade barriers does make trade harder and such -- I do hope that there are no barriers to trade, and the UK can be given its sovereignty back instead of the EU telling them what to do.
I think it would be okay if a hard Brexit is done so long as a new trade deal is done quickly, and this may be what it takes.

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May 26, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
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I'm surprised they didn't repeat the vote or came with any excuse why previous result is invalid.
That's how they always do when "the people" don't want to do what they told.
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May 26, 2019, 11:09:11 PM
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I'm not from England, but how exactly does that work? Did she resign out of her own will because people wanted her out, or was she forced out in some way?
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May 27, 2019, 12:03:21 AM
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jes a referendum with 52/48 percent is obvious, especially if the drunkards that voted there started to get fired some time later after the referendum because the factories they worked in started to close down.
A referendum with 52% of the vote means whichever side got 52% (in this case the Brexit side) won the referendum, and has prevailed.

I disagree with your conclusion that Brexit will cause much harm to the UK economy, but even if this was true, leaving the UK and having this harm is within its citizens rights.

The UK held subsequent elections after the Brexit referendum and the party whose platform is "Brexit" has won these elections.

I don't think a no deal is a good idea too, but if it must be done, then it must be done. You're right about the fact that having trade barriers does make trade harder and such -- I do hope that there are no barriers to trade, and the UK can be given its sovereignty back instead of the EU telling them what to do.
I think it would be okay if a hard Brexit is done so long as a new trade deal is done quickly, and this may be what it takes.



I think it may be the only way to get a trade deal out of it -- as the EU pretty much feels that they can bully the UK simply because 'they probably won't leave who no deal, so they'll agree to something at some point.'

It may backfire, but it's the only thing they can try to get a deal as the deals before this have been pretty much BS by May.




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