Bitcoin Forum
July 04, 2024, 07:02:56 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: [POC] Ethical Proof of Work  (Read 165 times)
kuduk (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 27, 2019, 05:16:26 PM
Last edit: September 27, 2019, 06:53:35 PM by kuduk
 #1

During the initial studies and research for our blockchain project, we analyzed different solutions. This proof of concept was not implemented, but we believe it is interesting and decided to share the results with the community. Our idea is use POW calculation power to solve 3-SAT problems.

Link to pdf document: https://www.takamaka.io/static/docs/takamaka-epow.pdf
Link to website: https://www.takamaka.io
franky1
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 4270
Merit: 4538



View Profile
September 28, 2019, 08:08:22 AM
 #2

situation not solved.
you threw in lots of techno babble. but in short. if 1 GPU/cpu/system can create a possible block solution, even if the problem changes/randomly picked. someone will just buy 100,000 gpu's and have each system broadcast through different ip addresses(proxies) to appear as individuals. that way he has 100,000 more chances than some hobbyist with 1 pc

one thing to remember is in digital tech, anything can be replicated/multiplied/cloned.
the reason people havnt bothered(emphasis) to make an asic that emulates an individual algos method of problem solving an alt. is because the alt is not popular, dominant, bas enough value to even bother trying. its not because its technically impossible. its just not worth their time developing because the altcoins real world usage just isnt really existant

its like lotteries planned that only 1 person gets rich each week. even if the decided a system where face recognition, payment method and only allowing 1 ticket person was implemented. then what is known as syndicating would occur. where a group of people have an individual ticket each but if on of them won, they would share the award

in short you will never find a way that a whole population/community has equal oppertunity. there is always a way to game the system.

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
Saint-loup
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2660
Merit: 2405



View Profile
September 28, 2019, 09:35:58 AM
 #3

situation not solved.
you threw in lots of techno babble. but in short. if 1 GPU/cpu/system can create a possible block solution, even if the problem changes/randomly picked. someone will just buy 100,000 gpu's and have each system broadcast through different ip addresses(proxies) to appear as individuals. that way he has 100,000 more chances than some hobbyist with 1 pc

one thing to remember is in digital tech, anything can be replicated/multiplied/cloned.
the reason people havnt bothered(emphasis) to make an asic that emulates an individual algos method of problem solving an alt. is because the alt is not popular, dominant, bas enough value to even bother trying. its not because its technically impossible. its just not worth their time developing because the altcoins real world usage just isnt really existant

its like lotteries planned that only 1 person gets rich each week. even if the decided a system where face recognition, payment method and only allowing 1 ticket person was implemented. then what is known as syndicating would occur. where a group of people have an individual ticket each but if on of them won, they would share the award

in short you will never find a way that a whole population/community has equal oppertunity. there is always a way to game the system.
I don't think it's the goal here, as I understand the goal is to use all this computing power to solve useful things ("protein folding for the research of new drugs / chemical compounds, circuit minimization for hardware optimization") belonging to NP hard 3-SAT problems and to stop "wasting" this computing power and electricity to just try to find "useless" hashes.

██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
... LIVECASINO.io    Play Live Games with up to 20% cashback!...██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
kuduk (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 30, 2019, 10:19:09 AM
 #4

Yes we can confirm what Saint-loup said, the goal is to not waste CPU\GPU calculus to find zeroes in a hash function, but use it to find a good solution to 3-SAT problems. Our proposal is to switch traditional hash calculations with a partial solution to 3-sat problems. In this way, while the complexity to generate blocks remains high, the calculation power is used to for something useful.
bizi29
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 01, 2019, 05:58:52 PM
 #5

Gotta say it looks interesting, using all that calculation power to achieve something useful instead of finding zeroes.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!