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November 14, 2019, 10:54:06 PM
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So all the examples that you mention are conservative leaders some of them right sided.
I don't think that you have to be conservative in order to be a strong leader. Macron is a leader due to his ideas not due to the power that he force over his citizens.

You are right about that. I based my definition of strong on 2 things.
1. How well the leaders defend their position and ideas on the global stage. How much other leaders are willing to step back and let them do their thing.
2. How much they're respected in their own country.

You have to be respected in your country to be strong but you also have to be liked or feared. Usually it's best if you are liked. Kim Dzong Un is feared but I wouldn't call him a strong leader. If we are comparing socialists Xi Jinping outclasses him.


I'd agree about the strong leaders bit. Different definitions of strong, a forceful leader can be strong in one sense, a good leader strong in another.

Regardless, I do still think as well as ideas there is obviously a lot of power inherent to the office. The European leader is not the 'best' leader in Europe nor the 'strongest' (whichever definition), but rather the leader of the biggest economy. It would take a monumentally bad German leader to cede control of Europe to France

Strong or good, that's right, but Macron isn't strong and isn't good. He's a supporter of globalization and one big strong Europe with 1 leadership and one army. I don't think this is such a good idea.

we need micro economic leadership, not large scale political one.

the problem is the banks are gamblers, or simply dont trust everyone else, including they are some kind of a closet corrupt society.

banks lend money to each other and live on the back of all others.

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You talk like a yellow vest. I have nothing against them, just saying.

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November 19, 2019, 05:42:52 AM
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Macron isn't strong and isn't good. He's a supporter of globalization and one big strong Europe with 1 leadership and one army. I don't think this is such a good idea.
Agree with that. The whole idea of a European army is ridiculous. Europe spends a lot of the time arguing with itself. The army would never work.
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November 19, 2019, 07:29:40 AM
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Macron isn't strong and isn't good. He's a supporter of globalization and one big strong Europe with 1 leadership and one army. I don't think this is such a good idea.
Agree with that. The whole idea of a European army is ridiculous. Europe spends a lot of the time arguing with itself. The army would never work.

Well,  I think it's issue about future of EU and idea about united Europe.
It's obvious that if some country wants to be strong in global community and global relationship,  it's impossible without strong army as we can see from examples with China and Russia.
EU wants to be global leader like America and China but can't because they are not united and have many different opinions about global politics and relationships.
Macron understand it and trying to build united and stronger EU but real question is what other EU countries  think about it and if they support it.
Because EU don't have one policy but 27 or 28,  they are like paper tiger in the global community and can't really influence others like America or China.



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November 19, 2019, 10:16:54 AM
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Macron isn't strong and isn't good. He's a supporter of globalization and one big strong Europe with 1 leadership and one army. I don't think this is such a good idea.
Agree with that. The whole idea of a European army is ridiculous. Europe spends a lot of the time arguing with itself. The army would never work.

soldiers are psychologically rather like football supporters or a wolfpack; tribal & territorial

If I was a foreign army fighting the EU army, a biiiiiig part of my tactics would be to try to split the EU army, to turn the regiments against each other. And it would be really easy, whichever way Macron wants to arrange the smorgesbord on the plate

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