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October 23, 2019, 11:53:36 AM
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Hi there!
I’d stumbled on an interesting article which compares capital investing, IPO and ICO to a martingale strategy in dice😊
https://100casinos.top/start-ups-vs-venture-capital-funds-vs-martingale/
Turns out that popular, nowadays, VC’s and IPOs and ICO’s now bring less returns than playing dice using a strategy. What has surprised me is that the risk to lose cash on investments in start-up if you’re willing to make 12% annual return is higher, than the Risk of Ruin of a dice game with the same profitability. It was 32% in dice and 40% for start-up investors. It also described the situation we’ll have in the future more or less, also in the perspective of ICOs and if the article is true, the situation is going to become worse and the proportion of profitability/risk in dice games will be even better off, than the one in most investment types. Good examples are given in it, and there are some points I could’ve argued with, but the main idea does seem quite sound, I thought that maybe that was some kind of mumbo-jumbo, but it looks like the calculations and the stats are quite legit as well.
So what do you think about it personally? Am eager to know your opinions 😎
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October 23, 2019, 12:20:18 PM
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No wonder that article is written by some casino site Roll Eyes

People are playing around with Martingale for decades. Martingale doesn't work and is a safe way to the poor mens house. It only works, if you have unlimited money and if you have unlimited money, there is no need to play Martingale Grin Even playing Martingale the safe way like proposed in that article will get you to a point, where the mental stress is ridiculous. At some point you are risking an insane amount of money just to recover your previous losses and win a few bucks on top.

VC, ICO and IPO is a risky business too, but you at least have a fair chance from the get-go, assuming you did your due dilligence. You will still lose all invested money most of the time, but you will also hit some homeruns, which easily make up for previous losses.

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October 23, 2019, 12:32:05 PM
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It would not be fair to compare Startups and venture capital funds with martingale. Martingale is ideally a risk free infinite earning strategy but probability would f**k you sooner or later.
While Startups and venture capital could be risky but you won't lose everything at once and there are much better probabilities of profit than gambling.
Gambling is generally considered a entertainment while other two are investments.



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October 23, 2019, 12:42:05 PM
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It would not be fair to compare Startups and venture capital funds with martingale. Martingale is ideally a risk free infinite earning strategy but probability would f**k you sooner or later.
While Startups and venture capital could be risky but you won't lose everything at once and there are much better probabilities of profit than gambling.
Gambling is generally considered a entertainment while other two are investments.

i think its fair because all three are gambling and investment at the same time  . yes martingale is an investment because you invest money on it once you use it on a gambling platform  .

 all are risky  but martingale is less risky in my opinion as long as you are playing on a trusted casino because you are the ones that control your funds . gambling is not only for entertainment but its also for earning a profit if a gambler wanted to  .
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October 23, 2019, 01:43:57 PM
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It would not be fair to compare Startups and venture capital funds with martingale. Martingale is ideally a risk free infinite earning strategy but probability would f**k you sooner or later.
While Startups and venture capital could be risky but you won't lose everything at once and there are much better probabilities of profit than gambling.
Gambling is generally considered a entertainment while other two are investments.
Well I do not agree. As, well you see that if a company loses all the assets, something that happens like in 2 cases of 5 you loose EVERYTHING. In other cases you can "rake back" dividends if there are any and only 1 in 9 companies actually have a chance to become unicorns.
The commision fees are very high as well, and you have to make way more actions than clicking a mouse.
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October 23, 2019, 02:17:20 PM
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Hi there!
I’d stumbled on an interesting article which compares capital investing, IPO and ICO to a martingale strategy in dice😊
https://100casinos.top/start-ups-vs-venture-capital-funds-vs-martingale/
Turns out that popular, nowadays, VC’s and IPOs and ICO’s now bring less returns than playing dice using a strategy. What has surprised me is that the risk to lose cash on investments in start-up if you’re willing to make 12% annual return is higher, than the Risk of Ruin of a dice game with the same profitability. It was 32% in dice and 40% for start-up investors. It also described the situation we’ll have in the future more or less, also in the perspective of ICOs and if the article is true, the situation is going to become worse and the proportion of profitability/risk in dice games will be even better off, than the one in most investment types. Good examples are given in it, and there are some points I could’ve argued with, but the main idea does seem quite sound, I thought that maybe that was some kind of mumbo-jumbo, but it looks like the calculations and the stats are quite legit as well.
So what do you think about it personally? Am eager to know your opinions 😎
Nice mindset on comparing an investment matter to a gambling one but for me it doesnt really make sense on comparing both different areas.
Yeah, dice can give out high probability of getting profits on a short time but do people can dare up to risk the money that should be intended for investment
to go all in with dice just to get the percentage profits that they do target out? I dont think so that someone will really be confidently enough to risk out.

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October 26, 2019, 02:06:45 PM
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It would not be fair to compare Startups and venture capital funds with martingale. Martingale is ideally a risk free infinite earning strategy but probability would f**k you sooner or later.
While Startups and venture capital could be risky but you won't lose everything at once and there are much better probabilities of profit than gambling.
Gambling is generally considered a entertainment while other two are investments.

i think its fair because all three are gambling and investment at the same time  . yes martingale is an investment because you invest money on it once you use it on a gambling platform  .

 all are risky  but martingale is less risky in my opinion as long as you are playing on a trusted casino because you are the ones that control your funds . gambling is not only for entertainment but its also for earning a profit if a gambler wanted to  .
I hold different thoughts in this matter. A person can learn as many strategies as there exist on the face of Earth but he can never ever make money or claim to win most of the time when he is gambling. It is not the strategies that are illogical or contain flaws but the game itself. Gamling entirely depends on the luck of gambler and let me also clear that luck never stands by the side of players.

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October 26, 2019, 08:49:17 PM
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Hi there!
I’d stumbled on an interesting article which compares capital investing, IPO and ICO to a martingale strategy in dice😊
https://100casinos.top/start-ups-vs-venture-capital-funds-vs-martingale/
Turns out that popular, nowadays, VC’s and IPOs and ICO’s now bring less returns than playing dice using a strategy. What has surprised me is that the risk to lose cash on investments in start-up if you’re willing to make 12% annual return is higher, than the Risk of Ruin of a dice game with the same profitability. It was 32% in dice and 40% for start-up investors. It also described the situation we’ll have in the future more or less, also in the perspective of ICOs and if the article is true, the situation is going to become worse and the proportion of profitability/risk in dice games will be even better off, than the one in most investment types. Good examples are given in it, and there are some points I could’ve argued with, but the main idea does seem quite sound, I thought that maybe that was some kind of mumbo-jumbo, but it looks like the calculations and the stats are quite legit as well.
So what do you think about it personally? Am eager to know your opinions 😎

You can differentiate the risk if you do make some mathematical calculations or when it comes to odds but they are not the same
and as said above that investment differs with gambling.You can see there are more chances on making money but the chances or potential that an
investment would give would be different too.So elaborating the two sounds not too irrelevant.

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October 26, 2019, 10:51:14 PM
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It's totally much risky when you use martingale style in dice games.
ICO's and IPO's will take much longer that's why the risk of those are a little bit lesser.
Just always think = less risk will lead to less reward.
Risk:Reward ratio will do it. We all know when playing gambling, the risk is extremely huge and returns also, that's why there are lot of people into gambling which some of them are lucky and will lead to profits while some are ending up on REKT city.

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What were they thinking before writing this article?

The major difference between Startup VS Venture Capital fund VS Martingale except Martingale in the other two your seed investment is secured.

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October 27, 2019, 10:10:14 PM
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What were they thinking before writing this article?

The major difference between Startup VS Venture Capital fund VS Martingale except Martingale in the other two your seed investment is secured.
They're probably thinking of other ways of investing and forced it even though the answer is obvious. It should've been gambling in general instead of a strategy like martingale since the profit is fixed to a certain percentage while on the others it's not..

On the other two your investment isn't always secured, depending on how long you'd stick before cutting your losses there's still a risk of losing everything and only getting a small portion of what you invested. The numbers and percentages were even mentioned in the article, if those are accurate then that means chances for martingale is still better.  

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October 27, 2019, 10:33:11 PM
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I'd like to see that guy who wrote the article martingale in a Bitcoin casino for a day and how far he'd go.

If it was such a great strategy we'd all be rich because almost every gambler has to try martingale even one time. Instead we have hundreds of people saying that martingale sucks. Go to any thread about it and you'll see pages and pages of losers.
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