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December 01, 2019, 04:54:14 PM
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Coinbase is one of the best crypto trading platform that offers the secure trading service to the users.
As per as coinbase is playing big role as a legit crypto wallet and i think they have strong security system to protect our assets. But i am not prepare to hold big thing like as 10 BTC or 15 BTC in only one wallet. Actually Coinbase is using as a wallet in crypto banned countries and it's using as a exchange in crypto regulated countries.

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December 02, 2019, 01:09:26 AM
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For me 1-2 hardware wallets to store any amount of BTCItcoin is good you can recover it if you lost using Passphrase don't forget to backup before storing. Use hardware wallet like trezor or ledger.

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December 02, 2019, 04:43:32 AM
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For me 1-2 hardware wallets to store any amount of BTCItcoin is good you can recover it if you lost using Passphrase don't forget to backup before storing. Use hardware wallet like trezor or ledger.

I've watch a youtube video before they are recommending to store funds amounting 1000dollar to 1 hardware wallet and to buy another if that amount exceeds. But in my opinion, 1 hardware wallet such as ledger nano is already secured enough for your funds to be keeped fully secured. With these security measures, it will only now rely on us on how we could make our funds even more secured so to store big amount of crypto, we should also store a big amount of responsibility upon us.
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December 02, 2019, 05:27:29 AM
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In my opinion, you don't need a lot of hardware wallet to store big amounts of BTC. I think one hardware wallet is already more
than enough, save the hardware wallet in the safest place you think. If something happens hardware wallet already has a recovery
procedure, so there's no need to worry if it's broken. If you save in many wallet will be confused to manage, better one but well guarded.

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December 02, 2019, 07:58:12 AM
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I would use 2 wallets. 75% in one for super cold storage. 25% in the other in case you need to convert to fiat in a jam.

Initialize wallet 1 and write down your seed words. Place wallet and seed words somewhere in a fireproof safe. If possible put 12 words there and 12 in a safe deposit box.

Initialize wallet 2 and write down your seed words. Also, turn off wifi on your computer and make a text file with your seed words. Encrypt this file with a STRONG password youll remember e.g. "$gpg -c myseedwords.txt" save this file 'myseedwords.txt.gpg' to a usb and secure delete the original txt file. Place the seed words and usb stick in a safe fireproof place.

Use wallet 2 to accumulate until you reach a level to deep freeze and send overage to wallet one.

Educate yourself. You will have many thousand reasons to do so now that u are a HODLer. Never stop learning and always put security first.
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December 02, 2019, 02:48:56 PM
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You just need to have a hardware wallet, that is basic for traders. Only cold storage, remember.
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December 02, 2019, 05:12:35 PM
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If you lost your hardware wallet, you can still recover from seed phrases. There are many safe options like you can split your BTC to keep them safe in hardware wallets or send BTC to cryptocurrency storage vault like Xapo.

More about Xapo: Xapo is one of the safest vault systems. Customer Bitcoin is securely placed on an offline server that never connects to the Internet. Servers are located behind concrete walls with steel doors and Faraday shields used to block any radio frequency access. And there is always a guard.

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December 02, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
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If you lost your hardware wallet, you can still recover from seed phrases. There are many safe options like you can split your BTC to keep them safe in hardware wallets or send BTC to cryptocurrency storage vault like Xapo.

More about Xapo: Xapo is one of the safest vault systems. Customer Bitcoin is securely placed on an offline server that never connects to the Internet. Servers are located behind concrete walls with steel doors and Faraday shields used to block any radio frequency access. And there is always a guard.
if you use a third-party wallet it is better to complete your data in it and also prepare security in the form of authenciator by email, google authenciator or by message to the phone. but for me it's better to use a hardware wallet because it's the best choice so far
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January 03, 2020, 03:01:45 PM
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Let say you have 15 btc. I would suggest you to buy 5 different hardware wallets. 3 btc for each wallet.
As long as you have the private key or seed, it will be safe even if you lost your hardware wallet.
Also, it will be great if you can store your private key in a physical private key storage. I dont know the term for this thing. Usually it made from metal, titanium, or something like that. Waterproof, rust proof, fire proof with high melting point, etc. you can search cryptosteel, coldti, simbit on google to know more about what I am talking about.
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January 03, 2020, 03:28:15 PM
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Two words:
hardware wallet
Really, this can solve a lot of problems

Yes, pen and paper. And its cold too!

Hardware = physical.
Cold = unplugged (powerless).

Create a new wallet in a secure os/computer (can even be done offline). At wallet creation, you write down the seed words in a piece of paper with your own hands. This is the wallet itself, nothing else matters afterwards. But, before turning on the computer (and broadcasting), make sure you copy/print whatever public addresses so you can sends funds to it.

And now you are done. If you did with a live iso, when you turn off the computer the wallet is deleted, this is good, you only need it to exist in the blockchain, and the "keys" to it are within those seed words. So not protect/secure that piece of paper.

And now you have the perfect secure solution that can store unlimited amount of money and be unhackable, as long as you keep that paper secure. You should hide it in a clever place, preferably make another copy and store it in another physical location. You could get fancy and use a bank vault or whatever, even use stenography, mark words in book etc.

The pen defeats the axe (hack) Smiley

A hardware wallet in the "common" meaning, the electronic gadget, should NOT be used for storing long term / large sums. A hardware wallet is nice when you want a wallet that doesn't need a pc or phone, and like those, should be restricted for small amounts you expect to use over a day, or maybe over a month. For long term nothing defeats the paper.

Do not forget, this "hardware" wallet also MUST use the very same paper to write down the very same seed words. If you skip it you are simply taking a giant risk of losing access to it permanently. So in the end you are spending money to do the same thing, in addition to extra annoyances like password, 2fa, etc (its just like a software wallet, but in a less insecure OS).


There is a problem with a certain mindset, lets call it "American", in that something "secure" absolutely has to cost money. This is not necessarily true. You'd think the paper is dangerous (because free) while the gadget is not (because expensive), when in reality its the other way around. But here we return to the trust issue. Whom do you trust, yourself? The company that made the gadget?.

Remember what Bitcoin was all about in the first place: Trust. Fiat = trust in your government. Bitcoin = trust in code (you). The "you are your own bank" has bigger implication and responsibility. If you don't trust in you, you can STILL pay others to keep it safe, this is the way full reserve banking works, exactly like a bank safe, just imagine you put your money in the safe and not in the bank account.

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January 03, 2020, 05:06:44 PM
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If I were you I would split the BTC on 3 wallets - 2 hardware wallets and 1 paper wallet. Be sure to keep at least two copies of the paper wallet in case something happens to one and make sure you use quality paper that is water resistant - maybe  put it in a protection sleeve or smth like that.

Also assure that you are keeping them in different locations - I mean you could keep one or two in the house, but put the other one in the guest house or in the basement in case of any disaster/calamity.
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January 26, 2020, 08:02:53 AM
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Hello,

Suppose I would expand my BTC portfolio to 10 or 15 BTC.....how would you store such a big amount of coins?

Ofcourse I would use a hardware wallet, but if I store them all on 1 wallet and I lose the wallet, or the house gets on fire and it burns, then I have lost those coins forever? Or are there still ways to get to the coins somehow in that case?

Would you advise to store let's say 15 BTC on 3 different hardware wallets (5BTC each), or would you spread it out even more? Ofcourse I'm not gonna buy more than max. 3 hardware wallets but in that case maybe 15 different laptop wallets (Electrum, Jaxx, Exodus etc.) with 1BTC each on it is safer?

I'm looking for the safest way to store a big amount of BTC and to minimize the risks of losing a big amount.

Most ideal approach to store is on numerous scrambled paper wallets, sponsored up to an ordinary hard drive which you control and encode and never open to the web. At that point back it up a couple of times over. Regardless of whether found-yours keys will be encoded with an (ideally) solid secret phrase.
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January 26, 2020, 08:26:25 AM
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Using a titanium back up is the safest way to store your recovery seed, to make sure your seed doesn't get lost in a house fire etc. Jameson Lopp tested most of them to see which ones are the most durable. Interesting to read:

https://blog.lopp.net/metal-bitcoin-seed-storage-stress-test/
https://blog.lopp.net/metal-bitcoin-seed-storage-stress-test--part-ii-/
https://blog.lopp.net/metal-bitcoin-seed-storage-stress-test-round-iii/

Overall comparison:  https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/
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January 26, 2020, 08:31:44 AM
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Unless you're into trading, you should go for offline wallet either a hardware or paper wallet with keys kept securely. If you are into trading and hence would need a frequent transfer of funds, then have a secure software wallet preferably on a device which is less frequently used. Trust only those exchanges which have good reviews and downloads.

In cryptos you need to look after the safety of your funds. No one can help you in case funds are lost.
Invest and trade safely!
 
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January 26, 2020, 08:38:53 AM
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Unless you're into trading, you should go for offline wallet either a hardware or paper wallet with keys kept securely. If you are into trading and hence would need a frequent transfer of funds, then have a secure software wallet preferably on a device which is less frequently used. Trust only those exchanges which have good reviews  and downloads.

In cryptos you need to look after the safety of your funds. No one can help you in case funds are lost.
Invest and trade safely!
 

MtGox had good reviews.
Cryptsy had good reviews.
Cryptopia had good reviews.
QuadrigaCX had good reviews.

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