50 merit for an non-contribute topic

[TMAN]

I thought  this would be about me as I am dropping 50 to members on the regular, it does look pretty dodgy to me!

[dzungmobile]

I thought  this would be about me as I am dropping 50 to members on the regular, it does look pretty dodgy to me!

Haha TMAN, please stop make me laugh.

[mk4]

I thought  this would be about me as I am dropping 50 to members on the regular, it does look pretty dodgy to me!

To be fair though in your case, though 50 merits might definitely be a lot, at least you're giving the 50 merits to people that actually deserves to have such number of merits. In this case though with these accounts that OP exposed, errr...

[ChuckBuck]

I thought  this would be about me as I am dropping 50 to members on the regular, it does look pretty dodgy to me!

lol   I think this is your witty way of speaking. This topic is very clear, OP is talking about a non-contribute topic. Your case is completely different from what the OP mentioned, your merits were given to those who deserve it and it continues to circulate, it is what's going on on this forum. And here, the topic mentioned does not even deserve any amount of merit. This legendary guy has never even sent or received any merit since the system was born. This is a public sale of merit 

[taufik123]

-snip- You can never really tell what happened unless the user gives an explanation but as long as you could see the quality of the post, it's really not worth that much IMHO.

The user (i.e. gizmo) has also given an explanation of why he gave 50 merits at once in a post that we know he asked for help tracking the stolen coins, without explaining how his coins were stolen by others.

the following explanation:

I know the guy, he is due around 5 btc. Basically he sent coins to the wrong contact address. The receiver gave back some, but kept 5 btc.
I thought giving him merit would allow him to send PM, not the case though with newbie a/c.


If one gets credited a million dollars to his Bank account by error but doesn't completely refund it back, it is an offence. ( https://www.money.co.uk/guides/can-you-keep-money-accidentally-paid-into-your-bank-account.htm )

Is it similar case for Bitcoin transactions? I would think so..

the mistake made by gizmo was not to think in advance why he had to give 50 merit, if he really needed help regarding the 5 btc error that was transferred could use just a gizmo account to be more convincing.

I thought  this would be about me as I am dropping 50 to members on the regular, it does look pretty dodgy to me!

he follows the way you want to be like you, maybe Gizmo will be your partner, as the most merit provider for one user 

[The-One-Above-All]

1. there is no such thing as merit abuse (except apparently if you honestly admit you will give special consideration to good merit worthy posts that favor your own politics, rather than just do it without saying so or deny it when really you are, or selling them blatantly)

2. lauda and his pal swapped 50 merits for simply pushing some crap service or project nobody got him banned, or reversed the merits. Go take a look. No double standards. ALSO are they not his own merits to do with as he pleases?? some merit sources give 50 merits to people because..... they ask for them lol

3. merit is subjective, NOBODY can apparently claim for sure the "giver" did not find the post worthy of 50 merits personally. FACT

4. Merit is completely moronic, subjective, gamed and dangerous nonsense. Not worthy worrying about the allocation now just keep throwing it anywhere you like for now. Just focus on getting it reset and some criteria put in place for its allocation going forward. Then put some sensible limits like 0 or 1 merit,  0-50 is of course completely mad and would require such an expansive, stringent set of criteria it would be impossible for most here to evaluate a 50 merit post.

5. Yes, that post looks worthy of zero merit REALLY (if we had some sensible criteria not just give it to posts you think are good). Like most of the DT and merit sources posts that do receive merit from other DT and merit sources it is undeserving . Actually  DT and MS are mostly of negative value for misrepresenting and deceiving other fools that there was some value in their nonsense and lies. So if their net negative posts are worthy of 5-10 merits, this post is worthy 1000's of merits for simply  having no value. Therefore to be fair boost this post up to a couple of K minimum with DT includes for both lol

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This is quite shady.

Uh, definitely.  50 merits to a brand new account for what amounts to a short shitpost?  The sender and the recipient of those merits are obviously related somehow, whether they're alts or related through a merit-buying transaction, who knows.

The main question I have is whether there will be any consequences for this, and I suspect there won't be.  There's been merit abuse going on since the start of the system, and merit abusers generally don't get tagged anymore.  I stopped tagging suspected merit abusers quite a while ago, and I don't think any DT members are making it their mission--and Theymos doesn't even want that anyway.

Fortunately this sort of thing can't go on forever because of the limiting nature of merit decay as it keeps getting sent.  So even if this member gets away with this, it's the exception rather than the rule.  It's not a huge deal IMO.

[UserU]

Fortunately this sort of thing can't go on forever because of the limiting nature of merit decay as it keeps getting sent.  So even if this member gets away with this, it's the exception rather than the rule.  It's not a huge deal IMO.

Yup. It's up to people whether they would bother tagging and/ or calling out.

[dkbit98]

I know the guy, he is due around 5 btc. Basically he sent coins to the wrong contact address. The receiver gave back some, but kept 5 btc.
I thought giving him merit would allow him to send PM, not the case though with newbie a/c.


If one gets credited a million dollars to his Bank account by error but doesn't completely refund it back, it is an offence. ( https://www.money.co.uk/guides/can-you-keep-money-accidentally-paid-into-your-bank-account.htm )

Is it similar case for Bitcoin transactions? I would think so..

As I said before.... don't load your guns so fast...

Guy who sent 50 merits replied, but I am sure most of you know this

OP is not selling anything ...so I don't see any big problem

[Blitzboy]

I know the guy, he is due around 5 btc. Basically he sent coins to the wrong contact address. The receiver gave back some, but kept 5 btc.
I thought giving him merit would allow him to send PM, not the case though with newbie a/c.


If one gets credited a million dollars to his Bank account by error but doesn't completely refund it back, it is an offence. ( https://www.money.co.uk/guides/can-you-keep-money-accidentally-paid-into-your-bank-account.htm )

Is it similar case for Bitcoin transactions? I would think so..

We have seen and received answers from the people we mentioned, this story, this topic will be stopped here. It is impossible to verify what gizmoh said, but it is also impossible to accuse him. All depends on how everyone think and see the problem. I have brought the topic here to everyone, now it's everyone's part. I'm going to lock this topic here.