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January 29, 2020, 03:07:34 PM
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You can change the topic of a thread using the following procedure:
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I've never looked that far in that menu, but this is a great trick to know! Note that you can also lose the self-moderated status by moving your topic to a board that doesn't allow it, and you can circumvent the 24h delay on deleting posts by temporarily moving it to another board too.
There are many subs that allow for self moderated threads, so you can move your thread to another sub that allows for self moderated threads if loosing your self moderated status is a concern.

I really don’t see the value in allowing for people to change the thread title for a response to a thread. There are some downsides such as some people use this feature to troll and it can add confusion.
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January 29, 2020, 04:37:19 PM
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It may not be that important but I still find it confusing though. I thought I was opening a new topic entitled "IT's NOT IMPORTANT" since it has no "Re:" but only to find out it's a reply to a thread.

Yes, it will be confusion. But I am thinking of a better action, the change will help users pay attention to others. I'm talking about an example where we want people to pay attention to a certain topic with our posts, we can change the subject thread into words that attract attention like what you were seen. I still think it's okay with this forum  Cheesy It is not a flaw  Grin

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January 29, 2020, 06:36:41 PM
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I get your point as most people who do this seem to use it as a tool for trolling, though sometimes they are funny, though it is often also annoying when loads of people start to quote the changed header.

This flaw is too often abused.
I ask this seriously: is it really abused that often?  Maybe I haven't noticed it because it's a problem in sections I don't visit that you do (like P&S, which I think you post in), but I haven't seen members changing the thread title all that much.  Or it could be that I'm just not paying attention to it since there's really no need to.

Not often, but it is another angle people use to attack other users when they want get another dig in and it can take things off topic.

Somehow I can't see it catching on

How about also not being able to change the usernames in quotes as well?  Grin

There are two opposite sides of the allowable option to modify post title inside threads:

Advantages:
  • OPs or the other posters are able to modify post titles to mark changes of projects (developmental upgrades, future plans, ie.), campaigns (Open, CFNP, Full, ie.), etc.

Disadvantages:
  • There are many different post titles inside one thread, from OPs, or from the the other posters, that might mislead new guests.
  • It will probably cause uncontrolled trollings, ie. that is what TECSHARE asked for changes.

It seems like a lot of people don't bother reading before posting. Nothing I am suggesting would prevent people from modifying subject headings anyway. All I am requesting is that replies automatically mirror the subject heading in the original post, which may then be edited if so desired.

I dunno. Is this feature even necessary? The thing you seem to be complaining about is a minor thing compared to people using it to just troll. I'm not sure whether full on making it so others can't change the topic title would be better, but when users use it troll maybe those posts can be reported to be edited if they're off topic.

I am really not sure exactly what is so hard to understand about this concept. I am not suggesting locking the subject heading or preventing people from editing it if they so choose. All I am suggesting, is that when people reply, instead of quoting the subject heading of what they reply to, it quotes the subject heading of the op, which then if they so choose they can edit anyway. This filters out the ability for people to essentially abuse people's lackadaisical approach to the subject heading and prevents it from being hijacked, and everyone still gets to post whatever they like.
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January 29, 2020, 06:49:06 PM
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It's a relic feature that dates back to IRCs so that tangents could more easily be followed.  It was actually a handy feature and utilized effectively in those days.  

Oops, did I just inadvertently give away my age?  Oh well, you guys probably already know that I'm a dinosaur Gen-Xer.  

Yeah it's not a big deal in forums.  It can be fun sometimes and annoying most of the time.

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January 29, 2020, 07:08:23 PM
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It's a relic feature that dates back to IRCs so that tangents could more easily be followed.  It was actually a handy feature and utilized effectively in those days.  

Oops, did I just inadvertently give away my age?  Oh well, you guys probably already know that I'm a dinosaur Gen-Xer.  

Yeah it's not a big deal in forums.  It can be fun sometimes and annoying most of the time.

Except here we are supposed to stay on topic, this feature as you suggested is for rambling aimless conversations.
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January 29, 2020, 10:38:55 PM
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Irony:

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You've just breached your own topic's subject...

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January 29, 2020, 11:25:08 PM
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Irony:

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You've just breached your own topic's subject...

That's not irony, that's the entire point of this thread. Thanks for helping me prove it.
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January 29, 2020, 11:33:50 PM
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This filters out the ability for people to essentially abuse people's lackadaisical approach to the subject heading and prevents it from being hijacked, and everyone still gets to post whatever they like.

No, it doesn't.   Anyone who wants to change the subject to something more appropriate can still do so.

Read the factual post title and notice - I still got to post what I like.

Thanks for helping me prove yet again you are an idiot.  Cool

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