primedice and stake dont show you your profit stats, its a trick to mak u loose

[RichGang]

Personally,  I do think it's much better if stats and history of a user can be accessible anytime.
Better to display these kind of user gambling on site data.
I don't see any reason why some casinos choose to not display it.
But being that, it's does not mean that the casino is scam, for a reputable casino like Stake, I believe they would not sacrifice their's to scam gamblers, they have been on the industry for years.

But yeah, in my opinion, transparency is essential, it is better served conviently to the part of the player.

Indeed, they are doing this for a reason but would likely to know it as well for the benefits of everyone and the transparency of the site.
Well, I don't think that was important for everyone to see others stat nor you can see the others as well.

I will consider as a challenge for the OP to dig deeper. If that he can provide solid proof making these sites scammy, that is a big shamed for them since more people are trusting them. But until now, we can't draw into the conclusion that they are scammy or even alike because of that certain feature until proven guilty.

you guys are getting my point all wrong. as regard paying out winnings, primedice, stake tops the list.
i am not talking about financial scam here. i said hiding stats makes the site questionable.

[Grab]

Hey,

We just recently removed those from our sites. Decision to do that was split between us but eventually we decided to do it like that because most casinos don't show you stats.

But until we maybe decide to bring that back you can always contact our 24/7 support to get your stats anytime you want them.

Why are you lying mladen ? You didnt recently removed stats from site, devs make it more than 1 year ago.
How you can trust this site if CEO was beggar? Check Micro first posts on this forum, before joining this scam project he was begging for cents xD
Remember people without honor never change.

[Grab]

Personally,  I do think it's much better if stats and history of a user can be accessible anytime.
Better to display these kind of user gambling on site data.
I don't see any reason why some casinos choose to not display it.
But being that, it's does not mean that the casino is scam, for a reputable casino like Stake, I believe they would not sacrifice their's to scam gamblers, they have been on the industry for years.

But yeah, in my opinion, transparency is essential, it is better served conviently to the part of the player.

Indeed, they are doing this for a reason but would likely to know it as well for the benefits of everyone and the transparency of the site.
Well, I don't think that was important for everyone to see others stat nor you can see the others as well.

I will consider as a challenge for the OP to dig deeper. If that he can provide solid proof making these sites scammy, that is a big shamed for them since more people are trusting them. But until now, we can't draw into the conclusion that they are scammy or even alike because of that certain feature until proven guilty.

you guys are getting my point all wrong. as regard paying out winnings, primedice, stake tops the list.
i am not talking about financial scam here. i said hiding stats makes the site questionable.

becouse for this idiot's if site paid it is legit, they even didnt know about sites like 999dice.

[RichGang]

Personally,  I do think it's much better if stats and history of a user can be accessible anytime.
Better to display these kind of user gambling on site data.
I don't see any reason why some casinos choose to not display it.
But being that, it's does not mean that the casino is scam, for a reputable casino like Stake, I believe they would not sacrifice their's to scam gamblers, they have been on the industry for years.

But yeah, in my opinion, transparency is essential, it is better served conviently to the part of the player.

Indeed, they are doing this for a reason but would likely to know it as well for the benefits of everyone and the transparency of the site.
Well, I don't think that was important for everyone to see others stat nor you can see the others as well.

I will consider as a challenge for the OP to dig deeper. If that he can provide solid proof making these sites scammy, that is a big shamed for them since more people are trusting them. But until now, we can't draw into the conclusion that they are scammy or even alike because of that certain feature until proven guilty.

you guys are getting my point all wrong. as regard paying out winnings, primedice, stake tops the list.
i am not talking about financial scam here. i said hiding stats makes the site questionable.

becouse for this idiot's if site paid it is legit, they even didnt know about sites like 999dice.

i am really surprised at the way these guys reason. once any scam or insincere topic s been raised, all they think of is a site running away with your money. any real gambler knows that hiding of stats can cause a player to loose. if a site makes me loose my money in a tricky way, is that not scam?. 999dce u mentoned paid u every winning but they where still scammers. i am glad u made me remember this site

[Cratoon]

It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.

[Grab]

It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.

I made account when they havent hidden the stats, i accepted this rules and they change it.
Of course this is ok for you?

[hopenotlate]

Wouldn't call it a from of scam it is surely a deceptive behaviour; I don't like this new "improvement" by PD and Stake and cannot find a reasonable explanation for it: I am always checking my stats on gambling sites, exchanges and everywhere my money are involved so being prevented to do so is something I really dont like.
Also couldn't find any public statementabout this innovation and will be grateful if I missed it and someone might address me to it eventually.

[Haunebu]

It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.

Honestly, most people don't read the rules or T&C while signing up on a site since they wish to finish the registration process as quickly as possible. Stake and Primedice did hide the stats suddenly which op noticed though he is blowing it out of proportion.

This doesn't imply that these popular casino sites are scams or anything obviously, but they aren't being transparent by doing hiding player stats which is why gamblers have a right to complain about it.

[BitcoinAccepted]

They are not required to display this information in the account. Sometimes you see that as an extra piece of service.

I also think that you can get a kind of printout or overview of all transactions and net turnover and profits or something similar.

Most of us keep track of how much you normally are in plus or minus. but I certainly wouldn't call it scam. not even in the smallest of concepts

[dunfida]

It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.

Honestly, most people don't read the rules or T&C while signing up on a site since they wish to finish the registration process as quickly as possible. Stake and Primedice did hide the stats suddenly which op noticed though he is blowing it out of proportion.

This doesn't imply that these popular casino sites are scams or anything obviously, but they aren't being transparent by doing hiding player stats which is why gamblers have a right to complain about it.

Gamblers had the rights to know all the necessary information regarding into their gambling stats.I havent visited out primedice and stake for a while and if thats
the case that they had just restrict it out and do ask out first before you do able to do so then thats a bit questionable but what ever it is,
theres always an explanation to that.

For now the best thing to do is to wait up on what Stunna/ management would say about this issue so that it would be clarified and clear things up.

[Grab]

It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.

Honestly, most people don't read the rules or T&C while signing up on a site since they wish to finish the registration process as quickly as possible. Stake and Primedice did hide the stats suddenly which op noticed though he is blowing it out of proportion.

This doesn't imply that these popular casino sites are scams or anything obviously, but they aren't being transparent by doing hiding player stats which is why gamblers have a right to complain about it.

Gamblers had the rights to know all the necessary information regarding into their gambling stats.I havent visited out primedice and stake for a while and if thats
the case that they had just restrict it out and do ask out first before you do able to do so then thats a bit questionable but what ever it is,
theres always an explanation to that.

For now the best thing to do is to wait up on what Stunna/ management would say about this issue so that it would be clarified and clear things up.

You didnt read topic and posts yea ? Why you make reply without reading post's? You are just spamming for campaign ?

[hopenotlate]

They are not required to display this information in the account. Sometimes you see that as an extra piece of service.

I also think that you can get a kind of printout or overview of all transactions and net turnover and profits or something similar.

Most of us keep track of how much you normally are in plus or minus. but I certainly wouldn't call it scam. not even in the smallest of concepts

Disagree with your, fair, opinion : so also your bank is not required to provide you overall balance of your account? Should you go through all that manual hassle to keep track of all your transactions by yourself?

I realize that I am taking the concept to an extreme and that they are two different cases (but not too much after all);  but don't you think that by doing so they have worsened the service they provide to their customers? those same customers who come and wager their money on their sites?

[RichGang]

They are not required to display this information in the account. Sometimes you see that as an extra piece of service.

I also think that you can get a kind of printout or overview of all transactions and net turnover and profits or something similar.

Most of us keep track of how much you normally are in plus or minus. but I certainly wouldn't call it scam. not even in the smallest of concepts

Disagree with your, fair, opinion : so also your bank is not required to provide you overall balance of your account? Should you go through all that manual hassle to keep track of all your transactions by yourself?

I realize that I am taking the concept to an extreme and that they are two different cases (but not too much after all);  but don't you think that by doing so they have worsened the service they provide to their customers? those same customers who come and wager their money on their sites?

he will tell you that a casino and a bank are incomparable. the way these guys reason is beyond my imagination. stats id the most important info to a player. hiding it defeats fairness

[XZERO1]

It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.

Pretty sure there are some users that joined their website before the removal of their betting stats.

They are not required to display this information in the account. Sometimes you see that as an extra piece of service.

I also think that you can get a kind of printout or overview of all transactions and net turnover and profits or something similar.

Most of us keep track of how much you normally are in plus or minus. but I certainly wouldn't call it scam. not even in the smallest of concepts

I don't know why some members are trying so hard to defend something that is obviously not very normal for online casinos and it never should become something normal, when you have a gambling website one of the most basic things that is needed for you to do is to give the users of your website some kind of stats so that they can check out how they are doing from time to time profit wise, by not having these stats available at all time you're kind of giving the signal that there's something wrong with your whole system and it will lead people to question the legitimacy and fairness of your website, and having to contact support for stats every time won't do the job and is not transparent enough.

[shield132]

For those who think that it's okay and not a huge problem, why? When I have access to statistics, that way I know how much I have lost and how much I have won. This helps me to analyze whether it really worths for me to gamble. If I have a lot of loses, then I may understand that I spend too much time on gambling and the way I spend money doesn't benefit me, instead, I feel regress. This is the data that you can analyze and understand a lot of things and psychology behind your gambling behaviours. This is the data that you create so, why someone has to just ignore and don't show it to me?
This fact doesn't mean that these casinos are a scam but it's shady behaviour. Despite the fact that I love and respect PD and Stake, if that really happens that way, then it's unfair and should be fixed as soon as possible. Every casino has to support responsible gambling, it's their duty too.

[RichGang]

It's not like they've hidden the stats all of the sudden.
You've signed up and started playing with these rules, means you accept them. Complaining afterwards is just silly.

Pretty sure there are some users that joined their website before the removal of their betting stats.

They are not required to display this information in the account. Sometimes you see that as an extra piece of service.

I also think that you can get a kind of printout or overview of all transactions and net turnover and profits or something similar.

Most of us keep track of how much you normally are in plus or minus. but I certainly wouldn't call it scam. not even in the smallest of concepts

I don't know why some members are trying so hard to defend something that is obviously not very normal for online casinos and it never should become something normal, when you have a gambling website one of the most basic things that is needed for you to do is to give the users of your website some kind of stats so that they can check out how they are doing from time to time profit wise, by not having these stats available at all time you're kind of giving the signal that there's something wrong with your whole system and it will lead people to question the legitimacy and fairness of your website, and having to contact support for stats every time won't do the job and is not transparent enough.

they are just asslickers. they know its wrong but they just wanna lick the casino owner ass clean. i am glad to see that there are still some unbiased users in the forum

[RichGang]

For those who think that it's okay and not a huge problem, why? When I have access to statistics, that way I know how much I have lost and how much I have won. This helps me to analyze whether it really worths for me to gamble. If I have a lot of loses, then I may understand that I spend too much time on gambling and the way I spend money doesn't benefit me, instead, I feel regress. This is the data that you can analyze and understand a lot of things and psychology behind your gambling behaviours. This is the data that you create so, why someone has to just ignore and don't show it to me?
This fact doesn't mean that these casinos are a scam but it's shady behaviour. Despite the fact that I love and respect PD and Stake, if that really happens that way, then it's unfair and should be fixed as soon as possible. Every casino has to support responsible gambling, it's their duty too.

you said it all man. i am sure many people must have lost fortunes because of this shady trick