Electrum no receiving my bitcoins

[Lucius]

You are absolutely correct in rejecting.  

To be honest, probably 9 out of 10 people want to invest in BTC just to profit, they don't care about technology, crypto payments, security... What happens after the purchase is mostly irresponsible behavior, which leads to a loss of funds, and in the end it is always the fault of the one who helped with everything. I don't think I want that kind of responsibility, because everyone should be responsible for their money.

well that's true but at the same time i can't blame many of them specially in early days when this scam site was selling them garbage and they called that "bitcoin".
so even if you knew the basics and went to a site called "bitcoin.com" and the first thing on their list of coins to sell was "bitcoin" and the second one was "bitcoin core" you would never buy the second one, you will always buy the fist thinking you bought bitcoin but in fact you were buying a scam shitcoin.
take a look for yourself:

There is no doubt that this is a dishonest and immoral behavior in order to make financial profit and promote your product, but I still cannot understand that someone will allow themselves to be deceived in this way. If value of 1BTC is $7000, and BCH is $200 then simple math would be enough to notice something strange when buying coins. It is not same to buy 0.10 BTC and pay $700 for that, and buy 0.10 BCH and pay $20, there is a huge difference here. It just goes in favor of what I'm saying, these people don't know the basics, nor are they aware of the price of BTC.

The fact that people come to the forum to ask questions like this only after they get into a problem also says something. They're first buying, then ask questions.

[o_e_l_e_o]

If value of 1BTC is $7000, and BCH is $200 then simple math would be enough to notice something strange when buying coins.

You just said on the previous page that you refused to talk to people about bitcoin if you thought they were only interested in the price, and now you say that brand new users should be paying close enough attention to the price that they know they are being scammed before they've even bought any? I think that's a little bit unreasonable. Sure, people should do a bit more research before they jump in so they know exactly what it is they are buying, but we can hardly blame people for going to bitcoin.com, clicking on a button that says "Buy Bitcoin", being met with a large banner which says "Buy Bitcoin with a credit card", and then being sold some useless altcoin instead.

Getting onboard with bitcoin needs to be a straightforward as possible if we want mass adoption. People losing money to this scam is the fault of Roger Ver, not the fault of his victims.

[HCP]

Getting onboard with bitcoin needs to be a straightforward as possible if we want mass adoption. People losing money to this scam is the fault of Roger Ver, not the fault of his victims.

It's a shame that all the egos, politics and posturing got in the way of bitcoin moving forward in a united manner. Now we have several forks all claiming to be the "true" bitcoin and clowns like CSW getting his face in the media making up all sorts of bs.

This division has definitely caused harm to the entire cryptosphere in my opinion... but hopefully those burned due to the confusion generated by all the shenanigans will not be put off cryptocurrency completely.

[Lucius]

You just said on the previous page that you refused to talk to people about bitcoin if you thought they were only interested in the price, and now you say that brand new users should be paying close enough attention to the price that they know they are being scammed before they've even bought any?

I didn't even mention the term price, but profit. Those who just want to make a profit without actually having any other interest in BTC are people I don't want to advise or help, because I don't want to be held responsible for their financial loss. Such people sooner or later make some kind of nonsense, whether they lose their backup, get hacked, or something like that.

I think that's a little bit unreasonable. Sure, people should do a bit more research before they jump in so they know exactly what it is they are buying, but we can hardly blame people for going to bitcoin.com, clicking on a button that says "Buy Bitcoin", being met with a large banner which says "Buy Bitcoin with a credit card", and then being sold some useless altcoin instead.

Simple mathematics is "a little bit unreasonable"? Well, that's something we learn in elementary school, and before buying something I always check price. Fact is that something is wrong with people who buy BTC and not check price before.

People losing money to this scam is the fault of Roger Ver, not the fault of his victims.

I do not like Roger, he is not only a scammer, but he is also known as Judas of Bitcoin. But fraud always requires at least two people, one who cheats and the other who is naive enough to be cheated.