The UK is moving towards forced isolation for people over 70.

[Jet Cash]

Well this thread seems to have taken a strange turn, and of course there are some personal attacks here as well. I haven;t read all the post, as I am power challenged, and spending most of my time on a mobile until I set up my solar. and generator.

There seems to be a suggestion that I may be an overprotected shrinking violet, and the opposite is probably the truth. I played rugby for my school for a while, and I have broken several bonese as a result of motor cycle accidents and fighting, amongst other things. I'm a Gemini, so I am probably more social than most people, and I may have travelled across more of America than many Americans - I drove fron San Francisco to Tallahassee in a 30 foot U-haul with several detours for example. I'm a child of the 60s and 70s which was the era of coffee shops and Carnaby Street, so my visits to McD are more for the power, WiFi, and social contact, and not for the coffee. You don't have to be the sharpest intellect in Bitcoin Talk to realise that I can make better coffee in my van.

I genuinely believe that allowing yourself to be vaccinated is about as intelligent s smoking, and I;m not sure whish is the more damaging. My opinion is based on real life observation, discussions with medical professionals, and copious reading I tend to ignore the pharmaceutical propaganda created by Big Paharma, and pushed by the like of the BBC.

England is in a strange state at the moment. People are being encouraged to wash their hands, but public conveniences are locked, and shoppers are urinating in the bushes if a supermarket doesn't have facilities.

I post more info when I have set up a comms desk in the van.

[franky1]

most attacks not aimed at you personally. but the general group of herbal antivaxxer supermen, yea i brought up your morning coffee routine habits. but that also was an example boris johnson mentioned and yet he hasnt read your posts. so dont take it too personal unless you are realising your actions are not what society should be doing. think of it as more of a gentle poke. not an attack

but i would say you pretend you have done copius research but admit you have ignored medical sources.
an idea for you. is to actually read everything. from both sides of the fences. and then form an opinion.
like read the ingredient lists of vaccines and find if they have any weird additives in them. research what those can do.
dont form an opinion and search only things that match your formed opinion(i see too many numbskulls do that)

dont stick to reading info from antivaxxer leaning sites or all you will hear is scare stories and theories glossed over with carefully selected extracts that lean in their favour. rather than reading full info in complete context

i do understand its tough that your lifestyle has to change, mine too. im stuck in england for months and i already miss travelling. but im sucking it up

as for the over 70 'enforcement' even last nights boris report is still in the voluntary social distance/isolation phase. i have yet to see any marshal law call in the military force where over 70's would be at gunpoint if seen on the streets,
so maybe relax a bit. do socially distance and isolate as much. but if you intend to gather a group of 30 pensioners and just congregate at random places as some form of social dissidence revolt. it would be people like you who would actually trigger the authorities to up their game.
so just be responsible and smart and just do it voluntarily.. for your own good and others