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April 02, 2020, 03:46:18 PM
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According to this report, the author of of Monero's white paper and Satoshi himself maybe one and the same person/group.

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Bitcoin appeared during a financial crisis on October 31, 2008, with the release of a whitepaper authored by the unknown Satoshi Nakamoto. Three years later, December 12, 2012, saw the presentation of the technology behind the cryptocurrency Monero in a whitepaper authored by the unknown Nicolas van Saberhagen. Historical research and textual analysis now indicate Satoshi Nakamoto and Nicolas van Saberhagen may have been the same person or group.

Nakamoto, despite celebrity-level fame, has eluded identification. He, she, or they are largely defined through the document “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System,” called the Bitcoin Whitepaper (PDF). It describes the multiple parts a cryptocurrency, including the blockchain and the proof-of-work algorithm that secures it without a central authority.

Saberhagen’s CryptoNote whitepaper, “CryptoNote 1.0,” also defined a new cryptocurrency, one focused on privacy and empowerment. It improved on Bitcoin by changing the blockchain structure and using a new proof-of-work, addressing issues that had arisen since Bitcoin’s invention. It also made a number of smaller enhancements to Bitcoin, like simplifying transaction scripts and dynamically adjusting block reward and size. The CryptoNote Whitepaper led to the creation of Monero.

The author of the Bitcoin Whitepaper had clear motive to write the CryptoNote Whitepaper (PDF). In a newsgroup posting on August 13, 2010, Nakamoto first posted the concepts for privacy in cryptocurrency that would later appear in the CryptoNote Whitepaper: the ideas of stealth addresses, which hide receivers in a cryptocurrency transaction, and ring signatures, which hide senders. Also, by the time of the CryptoNote Whitepaper, Nakamoto had witnessed the struggles with Bitcoin’s block size changes (Nakamoto himself stealthfully inserted a 1 MB block size limit into the Bitcoin codebase in 2010) and mining reward halving that the new whitepaper tackled.

https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/satoshi-van-saberhagen.html

I'm not familiar with Saberhagen, but maybe someone here who have been following Monero from the very beginning can shed some light on this.

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April 03, 2020, 02:27:24 AM
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Hmm, is this another advertisement to hype Monero again? Satoshi himself disappeared from the limelight, so let him/her/rest. We have so much drama from CSW already and we don't need to see another personality. I think Nicolas is well respected as well, but let the conspiracy die, just saying. Monero has down its share as the top privacy coin as of today, and I think that is enough already.

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April 03, 2020, 03:04:31 AM
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I read the report carefully, it's just a comparison between Bitcoin and Monero, maybe for hyping purpose. Nothing shows that Satoshi Nakamoto and Nicolas van Saberhagen may be the same people/group.

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April 03, 2020, 03:41:54 AM
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I am also not familiar with him but I heard about Monero long ago from friends which are inviting me to invest with since there is a good future for it.
Same thing, they explained it quite well and trying to tell it is better than bitcoin.
That is also why I turned my back on them.  Grin
Bitcoin is still the best for me.
Regarding Nicolas, trying to read more about him and his history.
Maybe he is or maybe not but thanks for bringing this up. I hope this is not something just to hype Monero but instead an honest way of solving the Satoshi mystery.  Wink
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April 03, 2020, 09:23:32 AM
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The author of the Bitcoin Whitepaper had clear motive to write the CryptoNote Whitepaper (PDF).

I don't agree with this statement. ...And even if he would have had the motive, it doesn't mean he did it. So all this means nothing.
Although Bitcoin and Monero are 2 of my favorite coins, I am very far from being convinced they were designed by the same person (or group).

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April 03, 2020, 10:26:25 AM
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Another speculation about who is Satoshi?

Hm, people can say anything about who is Satoshi, but you will never find him if he doesn't want to reveal himself. But you can still guess who is he or who are they. People who have high skills will hide from the public because that will make them feel not comfortable. Besides that, they need to work what they did without any people ask about who are they.



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