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May 30, 2020, 09:50:17 AM
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JPMorgan to Pay $2.5 Million to Settle Lawsuit for Overcharging Crypto Fees

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JPMorgan Chase has reportedly agreed to pay $2.5 million to settle a crypto class-action lawsuit. Originally filed in 2018, the suit alleges that the bank overcharged customers for buying cryptocurrencies using Chase credit cards, classifying the purchases as cash advances.

https://news.bitcoin.com/jpmorgan-pay-2-5-million-settle-lawsuit-overcharging-crypto-fees/

And this is the case: https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Chase-Bank.pdf

So it looks like everything is falling into pieces now, recently, Goldman & Sachs: Bitcoin: Currency or Asset Class? and clearly says that bitcoin is not a viable solution.

Although the settlement is not that huge amount for them, it again set another precedent. What is your take on this?

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May 31, 2020, 09:53:16 AM
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My insight into this topic is, JP Morgan has really a hidden agenda for making those "Bitcoin purchases" into "cash advances" for they will create their own JPM Coin and, no wonder they are now saying that Bitcoin is a fraud because it will be hard for them to defeat it in competition and it will be their strategy to censure or discredit Bitcoin into public instead to divert people attention to their own JPM Coins.

Though it might not be a huge amount for the plaintiffs it is still good news to everyone that Bitcoin could still gain justice against huge banking companies like JP Morgan. With regards to Goldman & Sachs surely whatever they said about Bitcoin it is only because of their prejudice that is only favorable to the business sector of the society. IMO

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May 31, 2020, 11:19:25 AM
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So it looks like everything is falling into pieces now, recently...

I don't see anything spectacular here, JPM just decided to settle because it is obviously cheaper for them, and also because in this way they will return only 95% of the allegedly overpaid fees. Also they do not admit that they are wrongdoing, and their current attitude towards cryptocurrency is diametrically opposed to what it was 2 years ago. I don't think this news has anything to do with Goldman&Sachs, Bitcoin has never been nor will depend on them.

no wonder they are now saying that Bitcoin is a fraud because it will be hard for them to defeat it in competition and it will be their strategy to censure or discredit Bitcoin into public instead to divert people attention to their own JPM Coins.

It is true that Jamie Dimon (JMP CEO) back in 2017 he called Bitcoin "a fraud", but as early as the following year he changed his mind and expressed regret over the statement. Recently, JPM began providing banking services to Coinbase and Gemini, so we can say that this is a complete turnaround when it comes to their attitude towards cryptocurrencies.

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May 31, 2020, 01:06:24 PM
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Though it might not be a huge amount for the plaintiffs it is still good news to everyone that Bitcoin could still gain justice against huge banking companies like JP Morgan. With regards to Goldman & Sachs surely whatever they said about Bitcoin it is only because of their prejudice that is only favorable to the business sector of the society. IMO

Right, as I have said it is just a small amount, but still this is a victory for crypto in my opinion. They may have their own agenda behind, but in the eyes of the law, they obviously losses this battle. And this is the reason why we should trust them in the first place, because we really don't know their stance. Some see they provided support and has made a U-turn, but still we should be take their words for it, at least in my case.

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May 31, 2020, 04:54:40 PM
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The way I understand this case is JP Morgan definitely has the win in this case and has successfully made cryptocurrency purchases in a credit card be classified as "cash advances" which results to the users having a higher fee, the only point that the complainants have was that JP Morgan failed to notify them earlier about the type of purchase a Bitcoin purchase be that's why JP Morgan settled for that amount. Generally I think the court was wrong to side with JP Morgan in this case. By labelling crypto as some kind of "currency-like" asset it generally goes in the opposite direction on the US classifying cryptocurrencies purely as an asset only. Now the judicial court as well as the government have a different view on what cryptocurrencies are.
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May 31, 2020, 08:54:28 PM
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I don't see anything spectacular here, JPM just decided to settle because it is obviously cheaper for them, and also because in this way they will return only 95% of the allegedly overpaid fees. Also they do not admit that they are wrongdoing, and their current attitude towards cryptocurrency is diametrically opposed to what it was 2 years ago.

the fact that the case was settled and JPM admitted no wrongdoing leaves the legal question wide open. chase is not the only bank who charges coinbase deposits via credit card as cash advances. BOA, citi, and others do it too. i wonder if we'll see another class action lawsuit against another bank.

from what i can gather, the plaintiffs would only win on a technicality, not the substance of the issue. credit card issuers have the right to specify at their discretion (in the cardmember terms) what transactions constitute cash advances. the problem here was the JPM may not have properly notified customers of changes to their terms.

it seems like common sense to me. banks letting cardholders buy currencies or speculative assets on credit is risky business. they ought to be hedging that risk with cash advance fees and higher interest fees.

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