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July 10, 2020, 08:35:04 PM
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I don't think that the idea of 4hrs posting gap is too much, it's good because it will curtail spammers from posting within a short time frame, if anyone is not happy about their rules then you join the campaign that suites you, I think this new rule is a welcome idea, the bounty manager knew what's happening before introducing such rule

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July 11, 2020, 08:33:32 PM
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Define burst posting. According to this campaign every poster who does more than 1 post in 4 hours is burst posting. I feel like this requirement was added on purpose to reject almost all candidates from the start.

They can have any requirements they want but we can criticize it. A 4 hour gap between posts is far too long and the reward is extremely low. It doesn't look like it's worth the wffort they require.
To be honest I would agree. It does seem a lot to ask for from posters. A 1hour posting gap is good in my opinion but a 4hour gap means that they would have to wake up in the middle of the night to make a post before posting in the morning.

Again there was a scam accusation against the project posted by another user here against this project. I would suggest bounty hunters to be careful again. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260728.msg54752751#msg54752751

They don't have to wake up in the middle of the night. They would simply not be paid for most of their posts. It's a good way to make users earn money for only 2 posts a day because that's what it would come down to in the end.

A campaign member would post for about 4-6 hours and produce maybe 10 good posts in that time maybe more but he'd be only paid for 2 making it cheap for the manager.
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July 11, 2020, 09:16:55 PM
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A lot of people had made complain on the rule for the bounty even in the telegram page, some of the complain led to the change of duration from 12 hours to 4 hour. I feel the 4 hrs difference is very good compare to previous, the campaign have very few signature participant and they seem satisfied. Spam post in this period does not deprive in any form

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July 12, 2020, 02:59:43 AM
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If only two posts daily, four hours gap is attainable but if three then we have a problem, bounty manager should have no time restriction that long the most important thing is the posters are not spamming and they contributed on various topics.
Three posts a day imo is still possible, I guess it just depends on how frequent you can browse the forum but anyway if you check the replies above the gap was reduced once again by the manager. And if they fail to meet the requirements they still receive a portion of the said reward so overall the campaign rule for posting gap is less punishing.

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July 12, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
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If the rule is stated at the beginning of the bounty I see no problem, it is the same as kyc, it is each hunter own right to join or not... and the same applies to the manager, they are within their own right to impose the rules they think are best fit for their campaign...
I would not subscribe a bounty like that because it seriously limit one's freedom... I agree that there should be rules in place to avoid brust spamming, but limiting the number os counted posts per day is enough, I think

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July 14, 2020, 02:42:55 PM
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A lot of people had made complain on the rule for the bounty even in the telegram page, some of the complain led to the change of duration from 12 hours to 4 hour. I feel the 4 hrs difference is very good compare to previous, the campaign have very few signature participant and they seem satisfied. Spam post in this period does not deprive in any form
If only two posts daily, four hours gap is attainable but if three then we have a problem, bounty manager should have no time restriction that long the most important thing is the posters are not spamming and they contributed on various topics.

Exactly, trying to keep a healthy post among participants is necessary but it is equally important not to over stretch it,  maybe this method will prevent spam posters not to find the campaign interesting enough to join, 4 hours in between post is a bit much imo, it will seem the participants will have to come back every 4hrs to make a post.

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July 14, 2020, 10:39:52 PM
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A lot of people had made complain on the rule for the bounty even in the telegram page, some of the complain led to the change of duration from 12 hours to 4 hour. I feel the 4 hrs difference is very good compare to previous, the campaign have very few signature participant and they seem satisfied. Spam post in this period does not deprive in any form
If only two posts daily, four hours gap is attainable but if three then we have a problem, bounty manager should have no time restriction that long the most important thing is the posters are not spamming and they contributed on various topics.

Exactly, trying to keep a healthy post among participants is necessary but it is equally important not to over stretch it,  maybe this method will prevent spam posters not to find the campaign interesting enough to join, 4 hours in between post is a bit much imo, it will seem the participants will have to come back every 4hrs to make a post.
It is actually not a precise method to prevent spam because it all varies on the content on such post.Even i myself do make out post  that had interval of 1 minute but doesnt

mean that im already spamming out.As long your post are on point and relevant then theres no problem with that. Durations are just having that kind of misconception that it do tags out most of the time
to be part of spam activity but in general sense it doesnt really matter much but since this rules had been set out by the manager then theres nothing you can do but to follow or deal with it.


If the rule is stated at the beginning of the bounty I see no problem, it is the same as kyc, it is each hunter own right to join or not... and the same applies to the manager, they are within their own right to impose the rules they think are best fit for their campaign...
I would not subscribe a bounty like that because it seriously limit one's freedom... I agree that there should be rules in place to avoid brust spamming, but limiting the number os counted posts per day is enough, I think
Manager is just too strict to have these set of rules and yes it do remove or limit out someones freedom of posting which i cant really deal of in that case if i were a hunter.

People can make their own choice and as long no one forces you out to join it out then you do have lots of options to take that you do saw that will surely fit you.

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July 15, 2020, 01:42:51 PM
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I was going through the bounty session and saw this campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254541, on the signature campaign, it says you should give 4hrs gap between post, I feel this is not too good for signture campaigners who have always been use to freedom to posting and spreading across 3-5 days. However, with the WhaleHavens rule of 4hrs gap to post, one can still make 6 post per day. Reducing it to 3 post per day spread over 12hrs is still very possible and viable but limits one freedom to make meaningful contribution on the forum. I feel the clause of only 4hrs post gap will be eligible for stakes count should have been specified. A look at the signature spreadsheet shows that about 90 percent of applicants were rejected.

What do you think of the rules of the BM? I understand he is trying to curtain burst posting and spam.


I guess bounty managers wants a good quality of campaign and put more work for hunters to produce a good quality post
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July 15, 2020, 03:58:48 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem for you if you don't like rules, just find another Signature campaign that suits your taste, I don't have all that time to post every 4hours, I made three to four posts everyday and the difference is just minutes, I have other things to do
yeah right, there are many other campaigns with the same rules as usual, and I also do the same as you bro 3 posts every day of the week and well because it seems to me that the singnature campaign is just a side now because you already know it is not easy to find projects being honest now can't be certain, but yes, you have to be more careful not to waste time and not to be careless, right.
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July 15, 2020, 04:31:04 PM
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I guess bounty managers wants a good quality of campaign and put more work for hunters to produce a good quality post
I don't think maintaining 4 hours gap between each posts doesn't reproduce good quality posts. Roll Eyes

Manager have to check the bounty participants post history and accepting will be more effective than any other type of campaign in bounties but unfortunately bounty team doesn't want that type of selection.









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July 16, 2020, 04:24:27 PM
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I don't think maintaining 4 hours gap between each posts doesn't reproduce good quality posts. Roll Eyes

Manager have to check the bounty participants post history and accepting will be more effective than any other type of campaign in bounties but unfortunately bounty team doesn't want that type of selection.
as I thought it might not be easy to make quality posts, but if we follow the rules stated in the BTT and in the project, I am very confident that it will be accepted by the manager, of course it cannot be haphazard or careless in posting enough to understand the topic of discussion and give each of our responses, although there are mistakes I'm sure the masters here will tell our mistakes to make it more valid.



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July 17, 2020, 02:02:17 PM
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I don't think maintaining 4 hours gap between each posts doesn't reproduce good quality posts. Roll Eyes

Manager have to check the bounty participants post history and accepting will be more effective than any other type of campaign in bounties but unfortunately bounty team doesn't want that type of selection.
as I thought it might not be easy to make quality posts, but if we follow the rules stated in the BTT and in the project, I am very confident that it will be accepted by the manager, of course it cannot be haphazard or careless in posting enough to understand the topic of discussion and give each of our responses, although there are mistakes I'm sure the masters here will tell our mistakes to make it more valid.
Do you think it is possible for anyone to spend 4 hours for a post who have a real job, I don't see anywhere in bitcointalk rules about post gaps all we need to do is to make posts which gives some value to the discussion which may not take longer than 30 minutes no matter how much good quality posts we are going to make.









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I don't think maintaining 4 hours gap between each posts doesn't reproduce good quality posts. Roll Eyes

Manager have to check the bounty participants post history and accepting will be more effective than any other type of campaign in bounties but unfortunately bounty team doesn't want that type of selection.
as I thought it might not be easy to make quality posts, but if we follow the rules stated in the BTT and in the project, I am very confident that it will be accepted by the manager, of course it cannot be haphazard or careless in posting enough to understand the topic of discussion and give each of our responses, although there are mistakes I'm sure the masters here will tell our mistakes to make it more valid.
Do you think it is possible for anyone to spend 4 hours for a post who have a real job, I don't see anywhere in bitcointalk rules about post gaps all we need to do is to make posts which gives some value to the discussion which may not take longer than 30 minutes no matter how much good quality posts we are going to make.
yeah right also because everyone has a real job and also different, and also maybe I started to understand what you explained so more or less the point is we only reinforce what we know to give value to a post so that those who don't understand understand know about that, so thank you bro



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July 17, 2020, 05:28:21 PM
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^Surely you can make quality posts when you takes time to read the discussions not OP or title alone,I believe these kind of strategy used by the campaign manager to stop burst posting from hunters and also they want to stay away from the name with the long time gap between each posts.









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July 17, 2020, 10:56:47 PM
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I don't think maintaining 4 hours gap between each posts doesn't reproduce good quality posts. Roll Eyes

Manager have to check the bounty participants post history and accepting will be more effective than any other type of campaign in bounties but unfortunately bounty team doesn't want that type of selection.
as I thought it might not be easy to make quality posts, but if we follow the rules stated in the BTT and in the project, I am very confident that it will be accepted by the manager, of course it cannot be haphazard or careless in posting enough to understand the topic of discussion and give each of our responses, although there are mistakes I'm sure the masters here will tell our mistakes to make it more valid.
Do you think it is possible for anyone to spend 4 hours for a post who have a real job, I don't see anywhere in bitcointalk rules about post gaps all we need to do is to make posts which gives some value to the discussion which may not take longer than 30 minutes no matter how much good quality posts we are going to make.
yeah right also because everyone has a real job and also different, and also maybe I started to understand what you explained so more or less the point is we only reinforce what we know to give value to a post so that those who don't understand understand know about that, so thank you bro

You can even post on 1 minute gap depending on how fast you do type on said conversation or discussion among other users on this forum. Post relevance doesnt really count or matter much on how long or short the post was made or having that timeframe on when you should post. 4 hours gap is really strict as a rule because not all would really have the time for them to wait up for such duration
but talking about convenience then having this one isnt a bad idea and as other guys been saying above that if you dont agree with the terms then you can simply skip and find for another one
which where you do see the rules are just fine for you to join.

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July 18, 2020, 05:48:54 AM
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You can even post on 1 minute gap depending on how fast you do type on said conversation or discussion among other users on this forum. Post relevance doesnt really count or matter much on how long or short the post was made or having that timeframe on when you should post. 4 hours gap is really strict as a rule because not all would really have the time for them to wait up for such duration
but talking about convenience then having this one isnt a bad idea and as other guys been saying above that if you dont agree with the terms then you can simply skip and find for another one
which where you do see the rules are just fine for you to join.
I think that is true, too, so when working everyone usually only focuses on their work and forgets about this 4 hour gap, but sometimes the network connection is also necessary, right? being discussed because maybe sometimes forget



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