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October 04, 2017, 04:45:55 AM
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Sooo, after almost 4 years of silence (this topic), we clearly can see we are in the 3rd stage, at ~ 4k / BTC
This topic is really useful for all bitcoiners.
Thank you freebird.
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October 04, 2017, 07:51:11 AM
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The price prediction has a little delay however it's the same path that you believe to happen in the future. We are on the last phase and I agree that there are still factors that will affect btc but it is going to succeed in the end.
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October 04, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
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This thread was opened up in 2013 and some of the predictions didn't happened.

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Phase 2. Hedge Funds and Accredited Investors
Price range: $250 to $2,000.
Explanation: Starting in fall 2013, when bitcoin was in the $100s and $200s, the Bitcoin Investment Trust launched on Second Market, enabling high-net-worth investors to invest in bitcoin more easily and with less risk, through a credible fund. We can expect this kind of investment to keep increasing as more smart money flows in and bitcoin goes up in value over the next several months. Meanwhile, wealthy people in other countries, especially China, are also getting in, since they don't have as many investment opportunities there compared to Americans. This will sustain the momentum. There could be big corrections during this phase, but probably not any huge crashes anymore like what we saw in 2011 and early 2013 -- unless the government steps in and tries to over-regulate bitcoin or some major countries ban it. However, expect there to be at least some increase in government regulation as the big money players will want this because it would be bullish for their investment (i.e. making a safer environment for bitcoin to become part of the mainstream financial landscape). Some of the uber-libertarian types may take their profits and get out in this phase, as they discover that bitcoin is not going to be a way to overthrow the government, but instead that making money will take precedence over ideological motives for most people involved in bitcoin from this stage onward.
Timeline: This phase began in mid to late 2013 and will continue until the first bitcoin ETF is launched on the mainstream stock market, perhaps sometime before the end of 2014.

The Winklevoss ETF was rejected in March 2017 plummeting the price to ~$1000 after enjoying and touch $2000++ before the rejection. So I'm sorry to tell that the prediction didn't happened. Also China is not the dominant force anymore Japan is. But he did point out one particular area, which is the heavy regulation surrounding bitcoin.

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Phase 3. Ordinary Investors
Price range: $2,000 to $10,000.
Explanation: When the first bitcoin ETF is approved and available for trading on the New York Stock Exchange or Nasdaq -- most likely the Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust -- that will be like bitcoin's IPO. It will enable the average person to feel comfortable buying bitcoin in a way they are familiar with, i.e. through their mainstream online brokerage account, and they will be able to use their 401(k) funds to do so. This will open up a huge amount of new capital to flow into bitcoin, driving up the price by several more times in only one or two years. Bitcoin will be marketed to ordinary investors as "the new gold," a "digital gold" which is a better store of value than the traditional metal, and it will likely capture an ever-increasing market share of investors looking for an alternative to gold, for a few percent of their portfolio. It's quite likely that at some point in this phase we'll switch to using mBTC (millibitcoins) as the unit, because this will make it easier for people psychologically to invest smaller amounts of money and will set the stage for more user-friendly and widespread use of bitcoin in commerce.
Timeline: This phase probably starts sometime in 2014 and goes at least a couple of years.

Again since there is no ETF approved, their will be no trading in Nasdaq and NYSE happening soon. However, we are in this phase if you are going to believe on it so I may add that it has already open up a huge capital going into the ecosystem without the ETF as suggested. And even casual or mid-investors are already into the market. Let's just wait till it hit $10000 before saying that it will go into mainstream.

 
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October 04, 2017, 06:50:40 PM
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Regarding 10 000, hopefully it will reach it in Q1 2018, as Cliff states in his Oct report...
Let's see.
IMO we are in phase 3, but that's only my point of view.
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October 14, 2020, 03:37:17 PM
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year 2020.
Pandemic.
Institutional investors control more than 2% of the circulating bitcoin.

current price $ 11400 USD

Phase? I think we are still entering phase 4.
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Hello all,

As I've been enjoying the recent rally, I've been trying to think about the big picture to keep from getting an itchy sell finger.

I think there are four phases of growth of bitcoin, from its creation to mass adoption. Here they are and the price ranges for each.

Phase 1. Libertarian Utopians and Techno-Geeks.
Price range: 0 to $250.
Explanation: These are the very early adopters, mostly comprised of two types of people (somewhat overlapping): idealistic folks who believe in the cryptocurrency movement as a way to reduce the power of government and the corrupt banking establishment, and software/web developers and others who are way ahead of the curve on studying and adopting revolutionary new technologies.
Timeline: This phase ended in the spring/summer of 2013.

Phase 2. Hedge Funds and Accredited Investors
Price range: $250 to $2,000.
Explanation: Starting in fall 2013, when bitcoin was in the $100s and $200s, the Bitcoin Investment Trust launched on Second Market, enabling high-net-worth investors to invest in bitcoin more easily and with less risk, through a credible fund. We can expect this kind of investment to keep increasing as more smart money flows in and bitcoin goes up in value over the next several months. Meanwhile, wealthy people in other countries, especially China, are also getting in, since they don't have as many investment opportunities there compared to Americans. This will sustain the momentum. There could be big corrections during this phase, but probably not any huge crashes anymore like what we saw in 2011 and early 2013 -- unless the government steps in and tries to over-regulate bitcoin or some major countries ban it. However, expect there to be at least some increase in government regulation as the big money players will want this because it would be bullish for their investment (i.e. making a safer environment for bitcoin to become part of the mainstream financial landscape). Some of the uber-libertarian types may take their profits and get out in this phase, as they discover that bitcoin is not going to be a way to overthrow the government, but instead that making money will take precedence over ideological motives for most people involved in bitcoin from this stage onward.
Timeline: This phase began in mid to late 2013 and will continue until the first bitcoin ETF is launched on the mainstream stock market, perhaps sometime before the end of 2014.

Phase 3. Ordinary Investors
Price range: $2,000 to $10,000.
Explanation: When the first bitcoin ETF is approved and available for trading on the New York Stock Exchange or Nasdaq -- most likely the Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust -- that will be like bitcoin's IPO. It will enable the average person to feel comfortable buying bitcoin in a way they are familiar with, i.e. through their mainstream online brokerage account, and they will be able to use their 401(k) funds to do so. This will open up a huge amount of new capital to flow into bitcoin, driving up the price by several more times in only one or two years. Bitcoin will be marketed to ordinary investors as "the new gold," a "digital gold" which is a better store of value than the traditional metal, and it will likely capture an ever-increasing market share of investors looking for an alternative to gold, for a few percent of their portfolio. It's quite likely that at some point in this phase we'll switch to using mBTC (millibitcoins) as the unit, because this will make it easier for people psychologically to invest smaller amounts of money and will set the stage for more user-friendly and widespread use of bitcoin in commerce.
Timeline: This phase probably starts sometime in 2014 and goes at least a couple of years.

Phase 4. Mass Adoption for Commerce
Price range: Something over $10,000. Who knows how much higher it goes, but eventually it will level off and grow more slowly.
Explanation: Once bitcoin has established itself as a totally mainstream investment and store of value, owned by hundreds of millions of people, and the price growth has slowed down to something less than a "hot tech stock" and more like a steady 10-20% increase per year, then people will start using bitcoin en masse for commercial transactions. Of course at this point the transactions will be in mBTC, since BTC would be extremely cumbersome by then for making normal purchases (people will prefer a unit that is closer to the value of a dollar or a euro, rather than dealing with amounts like 0.0001 to buy a book on Amazon or whatever). I suspect that mass use of bitcoin for commerce won't really materialize until the phases of rapid price gain have ended -- until then, bitcoin will be for hoarding, as a premier store-of-value asset. But eventually the point of saturation will be reached and people will feel like the era of massive gains are over and they'll feel more comfortable actually spending bitcoin.
Timeline: This phase will probably start anywhere from 2015 to 2018, depending on many factors -- and assuming that everything goes according to the outline above in the previous phases, without any major bumps in the road.

So, what do you think of this phase-by-phase prediction?
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October 15, 2020, 06:09:34 AM
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What do I think? I think this is as plausible as any prediction. 

I think that mass adoption for commercial use will drive the price way past 10K if that every happens.

This.

The truth is that the OP article is quite worked out and detailed, but it can fail like any other prediction. I enter the section of speculation because I like it and it entertains me but I do not believe that the many predictions that are made, no matter how detailed they are, can always fail, because there are always things that escape the analysis.

This being said, I also believe that as adoption increases, the price should follow.

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October 15, 2020, 09:06:48 PM
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The hardest part that dude made it in 2013, when the bitcoin price was very little, to say that bitcoin will be over $10k one day at that moment was seen like crazy, tons of people assumed bitcoin was just a way drug dealers moved money around, it wasn't anything serious and we actually ended up with the amount he predicted, we actually peaked at $20k but to be more realistic we spent the most period over $10k this past month without ever dropping under.

It is seriously important to be optimistic about bitcoin, because if you keep talking about how we are going down and you can convince enough people we will actually go down, but if you talk about how bitcoin will be super high one day like this guy does, you can convince enough people and it could actually go up.

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October 17, 2020, 03:44:18 AM
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I don't think the first phase between $0-$250 is correct. I know many people who were around when BTC was $200 back in 2015 and they were clearly NOT early adopters. I think the first phase is more like between $0 and $30 which was between 2009 and 2011, this is when you were still considered an early adopter if you invested.

There is a big difference between putting $1000 in 2011 at $30 a coin and $1000 in 2015 at $200 a coin. Basically if you bought in 2011 you would of had ~33 BTC which is around $330,000 today, a hefty sum.

While in 2015 if you bought 5 coins, they would of only been worth $50,000 today. And pretty much anyone who bought BTC in the single digits is obviously a millionaire today, unless they sold early or lost their private keys.
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October 17, 2020, 12:31:46 PM
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I think we are still entering phase 4.
because there are no phases next to this . the op only said four phases but the good thing is that the op is right and luckily btc reach the 4th phase . he was some kind of a time traveler or what ?

last post on this thread was on 2017 and you bumped it but others are more worster because they pump it longer than yours  . i just wonder what happened to the op now ? he'd be glad if he sees that all are going well according to his plan/prediction  . we need a guy like him for another set of new prediction
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October 20, 2020, 09:25:17 PM
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I remember having read that prediction in the past, perhaps even in 2013. No one in their right mind would have believed it would really go up almost as predicted here. I agree with the view that the early adopters phase ended in 2011.

However, early or not - what really mattered was whether you were able to hodl while the price skyrocketed. True for other assets (APL early adopter anyone?) but if you went from cents to dozens of dollars, you had to be insane not to sell. 100s and even 1000s of coins at the time, of course. Noone would have a sold at that price if we were talking only about single coins or fractions back then.

Cheers and good luck hodling everyone.
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