Plastic barriers next to supermarket queues.

[mu_enrico]

aerosols=normal breath..

The term “aerosol” has been used in various ways to describe small particles that can move through the air

Aerosol has been used both to define respiratory droplets of a certain size (e.g., smaller droplets and particles), as well as to describe the collection or cloud of these respiratory droplets in the air. In the healthcare setting, aerosol is used with respect to “aerosol-generating procedures” (e.g., intubation, bronchoscopy) that produce small droplets and particles and require distinct engineering controls to prevent occupational transmission of infectious pathogens like SARS-CoV-2. In community settings, aerosol was the term used to describe the sewage system-generated cloud of small droplets and particles that was believed to have spread SARS (caused by the virus SARS-CoV-1) during the 2003 Amoy Gardens outbreak in Hong Kong.

Source.

aerosols=normal breath.. yes be concerned. so just dont spend lengthy time near people breathing near you

stop pretending that breathing cant transfer virus

Airborne transmission is not equally efficient for all respiratory microbes

...

Airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 can occur under SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES

Pathogens that are mainly transmitted through close contact (i.e., contact transmission and droplet transmission) can sometimes also be spread via airborne transmission under special circumstances. There are several well-documented examples in which SARS-CoV-2 appears to have been transmitted over long distances or times. These transmission events appear uncommon and have typically involved the presence of an infectious person producing respiratory droplets for an extended time (>30 minutes to multiple hours) in an enclosed space. Enough virus was present in the space to cause infections in people who were more than 6 feet away or who passed through that space soon after the infectious person had left. Circumstances under which airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 appears to have occurred include:

Enclosed spaces within which an infectious person either exposed susceptible people at the same time or to which susceptible people were exposed shortly after the infectious person had left the space.
Prolonged exposure to respiratory particles, often generated with expiratory exertion (e.g., shouting, singing, exercising) that increased the concentration of suspended respiratory droplets in the air space.
Inadequate ventilation or air handling that allowed a build-up of suspended small respiratory droplets and particles.

Source.

Yes, the breath can transfer the virus UNDER SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, as mentioned above. If there is no big sale at the supermarket where lots of people gather, screaming, and breathing heavily, you don't have to worry about breathing as this is not TBC.

[Mauser]

Not sure why so many people hate these plastic barriers. For me it's a pretty common occurs lately. Almost every restaurant is using plastic barriers to separate tables. Even in stores at the cashier they using them, or at the haircutter. Personally I am not really getting offended by them. It's just another way to try and practice social distancing and protect us all. I don't worry so much about myself because I am still fairly young. Honestly if these barriers manage to save 1% of the people of getting infected than it's a good deal. They are not really hurting anyone.

[Jet Cash]

I'm only bothered by them because they reinforce the crapspeak about the virus. They do create tunnels, but that is good because it helps to spread immunity, and eventually the government will have to admit that the vaccines will be useless and not required. Then they will have to justify all the money they wasted. and  the life years that were destroyed in pursuit of their agenda.

Age isn't really relevant. it's the co-morbidities and the strength of your immune system that is important . The only reason that the elderly are more vulnerable is that they have been exposed to vaccines and other so called health care products for longer.

[Spendulus]

I'm only bothered by them because they reinforce the crapspeak about the virus. They do create tunnels, but that is good because it helps to spread immunity, and eventually the government will have to admit that the vaccines will be useless and not required. Then they will have to justify all the money they wasted. and  the life years that were destroyed in pursuit of their agenda.

Age isn't really relevant. it's the co-morbidities and the strength of your immune system that is important . The only reason that the elderly are more vulnerable is that they have been exposed to vaccines and other so called health care products for longer.

But the plastic barriers provide a home for the trillions of plastic nano-bots, which fly out and are invisible and then re merge with the plastic, until the next time some of those 5G network signals energize them.

<<<a joke>>>

[jrrsparkles]

Age isn't really relevant. it's the co-morbidities and the strength of your immune system that is important . The only reason that the elderly are more vulnerable is that they have been exposed to vaccines and other so called health care products for longer.

Vaccines are slow poisons and everything we eat also genetically modified/hybrids are also slow poisons. One who didn't get much medications in their life time expected to have better life expectancy and that is why people from Japan like countries are living more than other countries since they are talking only natural foods as their medicine for most of their diseases.

[Salauddin1994]

Now this plastic category thing is seen in most parts of the world home office restaurant shop it is in vogue everywhere but these are made for one time use if more than this is used it can be harmful to health it is not okay to feed plastic products to older people especially children. Plastic toxins can get into food which can enter the body and harm health and plastic that does not have such a symbol or mark it must be understood that the plastic product is not made to protect the international standards and it is more unsafe.

[Jet Cash]

If they really wanted to kill the virus, then they would use copper impregnation a lot more ( on the barriers, nit the people), I understand that the virus can't remain viable for more than 5 minutes on copper. But then it suits them to use these tunnels to spread the live virus.

[TwitchySeal]

It's quite offensive to suggest that everyone with health problems is stupid or weak-willed.

It's offensive to force nations into penury, ill health and even death, just because some people can't stop eating rubbish food, or have to destroy their lungs and other organs with cigarettes and chemicals.

Do you really believe that all unhealthy people are stupid and weak?  Pretty ignorant.

[Cnut237]

Age isn't really relevant. it's the co-morbidities and the strength of your immune system that is important . The only reason that the elderly are more vulnerable is that they have been exposed to vaccines and other so called health care products for longer.

That's not really true. Whilst co-morbidities and immune system strength are important, the fact is that old people still died before vaccines and health products were invented; people don't just continue indefinitely. Ageing is the process of cumulative accrual of cell replication errors throughout your life. Getting older makes you weaker and more vulnerable, naturally. Plus there is the vulnerability to late-onset diseases (most early onset diseases [i.e. before procreation age] are obviously excluded from the gene-pool by natural selection). Diseases can make you more vulnerable, and weaken your immune system, and this correlates with age. Unfortunately it's not the case that we're all immortal indomitable supermen who are brought down only by evil vaccines.

[squatz1]

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The barriers protect the checkout staff though. Staff who are in close proximity to hundreds of people each day (some of them maskless freedom-warriors). With no barriers, staff are more likely to get infected and then, with no barriers, we as shoppers are more likely to contract the virus from the infected staff.

Agree that air conditioning isn't great, though. It's all compromise solutions to keep the economy functioning, whilst keeping infection rate as low as possible given the economy is the government's overriding priority.

+1 to all of that.

Every single solution we've had to this pandemic at this point isn't 'perfect' though it is enough to keep tons of people from getting sick and allows our economy to continue to function.

I don't think the reaction to these solutions should be -- WELL IT DOESNT WORK 100% SO WE SHOULD ALL JUST STOP NOW CAUSE THIS OBVIOUSLY ISN'T WORKING.

Like no. Why?

[franky1]

If they really wanted to kill the virus, then they would use copper impregnation a lot more ( on the barriers, nit the people), I understand that the virus can't remain viable for more than 5 minutes on copper. But then it suits them to use these tunnels to spread the live virus.

the barriers are a spit guard for the workers while being transparent to still see each other

if you put up a copper panel. you cant see because its then a metal wall.. well even if they were to do it. i guarantee you that they wont be buying your copper. they would research you and notice your hygiene and safety guidelines are not acceptable standard. so try not to make this a way to promote your copper hoarding. you wont get it sold

here is the thing. if you stand at a distance and wear a mask like asked to do. and your in the cashier queue you will only be there for 5 minutes 'in the tunnel' so with all three features. your risk is low

[Fortify]

It seems a little unfair to compare being able to smell someones perfume and saying that coronavirus restrictions are a waste of time. There are so many scenarios where this sort of shielding could help stop the spread - if it just stops 1 out of 100 people getting infected then it seems like a good idea, with this particularly deadly and contagious virus. Let's say you were just walking through the checkouts after deciding not to buy anything, someone on the opposite side of the shield sneezes but that barrier was able to protect you from direct exposure in the 2 seconds that you were passing by. Of course you have to think of situations where the shields are detrimental or counter intuitive, but it seems silly to say they are not helpful.

[Spendulus]

It seems a little unfair to compare being able to smell someones perfume and saying that coronavirus restrictions are a waste of time. There are so many scenarios where this sort of shielding could help stop the spread - if it just stops 1 out of 100 people getting infected then it seems like a good idea, with this particularly deadly and contagious virus. Let's say you were just walking through the checkouts after deciding not to buy anything, someone on the opposite side of the shield sneezes but that barrier was able to protect you from direct exposure in the 2 seconds that you were passing by. Of course you have to think of situations where the shields are detrimental or counter intuitive, but it seems silly to say they are not helpful.

It does not matter if it "seems silly." What matters is the results of empirical testing.

[squatz1]

I'm only bothered by them because they reinforce the crapspeak about the virus. They do create tunnels, but that is good because it helps to spread immunity, and eventually the government will have to admit that the vaccines will be useless and not required. Then they will have to justify all the money they wasted. and  the life years that were destroyed in pursuit of their agenda.

Age isn't really relevant. it's the co-morbidities and the strength of your immune system that is important . The only reason that the elderly are more vulnerable is that they have been exposed to vaccines and other so called health care products for longer.

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I'd love to know where you actually read the news from Jet Cash. Or whatever you're smoking. Seems interesting.

aerosols=normal breath..

The term “aerosol” has been used in various ways to describe small particles that can move through the air

Aerosol has been used both to define respiratory droplets of a certain size (e.g., smaller droplets and particles), as well as to describe the collection or cloud of these respiratory droplets in the air. In the healthcare setting, aerosol is used with respect to “aerosol-generating procedures” (e.g., intubation, bronchoscopy) that produce small droplets and particles and require distinct engineering controls to prevent occupational transmission of infectious pathogens like SARS-CoV-2. In community settings, aerosol was the term used to describe the sewage system-generated cloud of small droplets and particles that was believed to have spread SARS (caused by the virus SARS-CoV-1) during the 2003 Amoy Gardens outbreak in Hong Kong.

Source.

aerosols=normal breath.. yes be concerned. so just dont spend lengthy time near people breathing near you

stop pretending that breathing cant transfer virus

Airborne transmission is not equally efficient for all respiratory microbes

...

Airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 can occur under SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES

Pathogens that are mainly transmitted through close contact (i.e., contact transmission and droplet transmission) can sometimes also be spread via airborne transmission under special circumstances. There are several well-documented examples in which SARS-CoV-2 appears to have been transmitted over long distances or times. These transmission events appear uncommon and have typically involved the presence of an infectious person producing respiratory droplets for an extended time (>30 minutes to multiple hours) in an enclosed space. Enough virus was present in the space to cause infections in people who were more than 6 feet away or who passed through that space soon after the infectious person had left. Circumstances under which airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 appears to have occurred include:

Enclosed spaces within which an infectious person either exposed susceptible people at the same time or to which susceptible people were exposed shortly after the infectious person had left the space.
Prolonged exposure to respiratory particles, often generated with expiratory exertion (e.g., shouting, singing, exercising) that increased the concentration of suspended respiratory droplets in the air space.
Inadequate ventilation or air handling that allowed a build-up of suspended small respiratory droplets and particles.

Source.

Yes, the breath can transfer the virus UNDER SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, as mentioned above. If there is no big sale at the supermarket where lots of people gather, screaming, and breathing heavily, you don't have to worry about breathing as this is not TBC.

That is why they limit the amount of people in the stores, try to get people to use special lanes when walking around, put up barriers, and require masks.

Plus you shouldn't be that close to people, even with masks on, for extended periods of time. Just be 6 feet apart and all is well.

[KonstantinosM]

You can smell gases. Gases can go through masks and everything

Particles, and particles that the virus is present on may be blocked by masks and other things.

It's been mentioned before in this thread but also the little bit of spit that comes of people will also be mostly stopped by the barrier. Than it will either dry on the plexiglass surface and the virus will die or it will be cleaned and the virus will die.

These measures have and will continue to save lives.


The biggest thing was lowering the spread in the beginning when everyone was vulnerable and this has been very successful. If more people had been infected all at once the medical establishment would have been completely overwhelmed.

It's good that Corona didn't come at a worse time, it's almost like a vaccine itself, preparing us for worse pandemics in the future.


In some supermarkets it's kind of a gimmick, but places like Costco did it the right way. When you're buying things there the cashier is protected like 99% of the time. Other grocery stores just put a little panel of plexiglass that the customer is behind for like 1 second out of potentially a 1 minute long interaction. These ones are just virtue signaling.



One final point gases will of course pass through masks and around barriers. Otherwise what the hell are you breathing? The smells in perfumes are gases not necessarily particulates.

[erikoy]

Maybe you were just a little paranoid with how the virus can be transmitted. There are many things to consider if an individual had the virus.
1st, we are wearing facemask and probably face shields. Study shows that proper wearing of facemask can get 99% chance you will not get the virus.
2nd, if he/she wears facemask too contamination stop already in his/her face mask trapping all the virus in their from his/her respiratory system.
3rd, observing social distancing could not reach the virus that if were going to base these from wha experts has says.
4th, you will not get the virus if you do not have business to go outside or if it is not really important then stay at home and save lives.

Do not get worried too much about the virus instead boost your health by eating healthy foods less sugar and other toxic ingredients that we likely to eat. Then exercise that would I think do to keep you not getting sick if you get affected by the virus.