Promote constructive criticism when doing posts or replies,

[fortunecrypto]

Every one here at one point was once a newbie. In my opinion I will think it wise if newbies could be well guided and encouraged as well. No quality post started the first time each and everyone of us made pur very first post. This things grows with time and gets better with consistency, nevertheless you made a valid point and I see it as a means of letting every newbie to do proper research so as to make satisfactory posts which adds value both to the members and the forum itself.

It's not only newbies I'm already high ranked but I'm still learning a lot of stuff about Cryptocurrency and forum posting, I still got some of my posts deleted and received a ban, it's not really about the rank here, you can be a newbie but an old posters from other forums, you could be better when you are still low ranked and I have seen low ranked with good knowledge, about Cryptocurrency and many subjects related to Cryptocurerency, I have high respect for this members.

[Findingnemo]

Criticizing the trolls means we are feeding them so they will come more and kore so better avoid replying such post will make them to fade away.We are talking about the potential newbies who needs some kind of appreciation for their post in the right way to make one of the best poster of Bitcointalk.

We will definitely not feed the trolls,

And we will going to support the newcomers as what you had mention to become better poster here in forum. We always wanted new guys to be better not like in those times without merit and rank system for it was not organize and people only do what they think is right mostly making lots of generic or spam posts to create high activities in the forum for them to rank up not mindng the result it could take. The result was shit posting all over and was becoming a major problem. Now, it seems a little bit of change and we were heading towards a better forum for cryptocurrency discussions and that is all we wanted here in the stay of this forum.

Some people never wanted to rankup because they don't want to join in signature campaign that is why we can see some trolls all over the forum who is trying to topics which has no purpose other than encourage people to post spam and reluctant post that kind of posters also should be ignored for forum betterment.

[Saisher]

I am into constructive criticism, but we have so many mix of personalities here, and we do not know how every posters reacts on every post here, there are some posters that cannot restrain themselves from criticizing other posters, we are guilty one time or another here because some posters are getting into our nerves especially these scammers in the forum.

[hatshepsut93]

This is something I often notice among newbies, they are scared to disagree with people, so they end up always making posts that just fully agree with the statement that they reply to. But what's the point of a forum where everyone agrees with each other and repeats others thoughts?

So don't be scared to argue with someone here, even if it's a Legendary member, no one is taking such things personally here, just try your best to back your statements with facts and reasoning so people could properly respond to it.

[carlisle1]

I am into constructive criticism, but we have so many mix of personalities here, and we do not know how every posters reacts on every post here, there are some posters that cannot restrain themselves from criticizing other posters

That's the way posting must be ,sharing our deepest thoughts and our opinion in manners depend in our attitude and moods.
But what is important are those advises we gave are valuable and may help the OP understand what he is asking for .

, we are guilty one time or another here because some posters are getting into our nerves especially these scammers in the forum.

Well scammers are really part of this forum and you let yourself being affected by them deeply then you will be the loser.
remember that scammers are proof about the community is healthy thats why they are around.

This is something I often notice among newbies, they are scared to disagree with people, so they end up always making posts that just fully agree with the statement that they reply to. But what's the point of a forum where everyone agrees with each other and repeats others thoughts?

There is nothing to be afraid for as long as you know what you are saying and understand the conversation.
and this is a good advice to not only newbie but the whole community.

[aioc]

This is something I often notice among newbies, they are scared to disagree with people, so they end up always making posts that just fully agree with the statement that they reply to. But what's the point of a forum where everyone agrees with each other and repeats others thoughts?

So don't be scared to argue with someone here, even if it's a Legendary member, no one is taking such things personally here, just try your best to back your statements with facts and reasoning so people could properly respond to it.

Newbies should also voiced out I have seen a lot of newbies that are knowledgeable, they should call a spade a spade, we have diverse personality and we come from various beliefs and tradition but we are bounded by one belief and goal and this is not confined to high ranked members, we should agree to disagree and keep the discussion moving and correct.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

So don't be scared to argue with someone here, even if it's a Legendary member, no one is taking such things personally here, just try your best to back your statements with facts and reasoning so people could properly respond to it.

Well said, the merit system has turned many newbies into ass licking individuals just do they can get a taste of what it feels like to recieve the merits. They shy away from the truth just so they don't get picked on. I was affected by that mentality too when I first joined the forum and became more vocal. My whole perspective change after I saw so bold set of lower ranked members airing their views and not getting attacked instead encourage with smerits. The ranks doesn't reflect your knowledge in any topic been discussed.

I have seen topics wanting reply from certain ranks just because they feel they'll be more knowledgeable but instead the lower ranked are those giving the discussion a purpose as they're contributing constructively in the topic of discussion. Another mentality we have to disassociate ourselves from is that of viewing higher ranked users posts as more quality that the lower ranked without actually reqqadinqhar both users had to say.

[samputin]

This is something I often notice among newbies, they are scared to disagree with people, so they end up always making posts that just fully agree with the statement that they reply to. But what's the point of a forum where everyone agrees with each other and repeats others thoughts?

So don't be scared to argue with someone here, even if it's a Legendary member, no one is taking such things personally here, just try your best to back your statements with facts and reasoning so people could properly respond to it.

Yes, exactly. After all, this forum was made for discussions and discussion means:

• the action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.
• a conversation or debate about a certain topic.

With that, one doesn't have to always agree with everything that is being said here. We all have different point of views and perspective that's why it's normal to disagree sometimes. Also, remember that there are things that you know but others don't, and there are things that others know but you don't.
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I am into constructive criticism, but we have so many mix of personalities here, and we do not know how every posters reacts on every post here, there are some posters that cannot restrain themselves from criticizing other posters, we are guilty one time or another here because some posters are getting into our nerves especially these scammers in the forum.

Well, if your intentions are clean and you just mean to constructively criticize a post or reply, it's now up to the person how he/she will take it. If he/she will take it as a discouragement or as a challenge is completely up to them. If he/she wants to improve, he/she will surely take it as the latter.

[GDragon]

This is something I often notice among newbies, they are scared to disagree with people, so they end up always making posts that just fully agree with the statement that they reply to. But what's the point of a forum where everyone agrees with each other and repeats others thoughts?

So don't be scared to argue with someone here, even if it's a Legendary member, no one is taking such things personally here, just try your best to back your statements with facts and reasoning so people could properly respond to it.

Yes, exactly. After all, this forum was made for discussions and discussion means:

• the action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.
• a conversation or debate about a certain topic.

With that, one doesn't have to always agree with everything that is being said here. We all have different point of views and perspective that's why it's normal to disagree sometimes. Also, remember that there are things that you know but others don't, and there are things that others know but you don't.
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This is one of the things I believe while growing up. We all have different experiences that is why knowledge can't be measure with age all the time. Old people can learn from younger ones too. That is why knowledge is different with wisdom. Same thing with ranks here, we all have different experiences and different skills, work, and expertise in life. I disagree sometimes with many posts here and I do express it so we can have a healty discussion on what is really right so both of us can see each others perspectives. It's normal. And one behavior of a good person, leader, or whatever you want to call it, is the ability to always learn. We should keep learning and it never stops, even though many people already said that you are the most knowledgeable person here in this forum, there is still a thing that you can learn from someone here.   

[cryptowhitewalker]

Well I'm still new to the forum as i was just recently introduced because of altcoins bounties and so far i have just a few activities apart from those related to bounties. From my little look around, i can conclude that this forum is the main place for learning and following up with happenings and i told my self that all these users with high level rankings were all in the same rank as i am in presently. As a newbie, i feel bad to read what OP has written regarding the nature of criticism in the forum, i will love to see that engagements between users is carried out with respect and dignity for one another irrespective of there rank or level of technical know-how.

[Qcrypto]

I see a lot of shit-posters and Newbies/Jr.Members just writing anything to get their hands on some merit.

The replies are so generic and stupid that I become compelled to write a reply myself and call them out on their bullshit.
But halfway through typing my reply, I realize they probably don't even care or ever read it so I end up not replying at all.

I can also tell from experience that people don't take negativity or criticism well, especially newbies who will most likely be alienated from the website if someone calls them out.

How could we promote when were so good in making negative criticism and making atmosphere of the forum not conducive for learning?

This is a tough one because people don't take criticism well. Especially if multiple people call out a person he/she can feel like they are being ganged-up on, it might cause resentment with that person.
But that also might be the right approach because you weed out the "bad people" in the process.

What you can do is maybe add option to report the reply as a shitpost so some Legendary members and members who are held in high regard can take some time to check out the post and deal with it accordingly.
Either by replying to the post, giving - trust points, maybe even taking away merit if the member is being obnoxious.

[abdulodoi]

Constructive criticism goes a long way and it does boost confidence most times. I remember i had wanted to joined the forum way earlier but was relunctant as I'd seen alot of complains about the higher rank being bullies and rude to lower ranks. As a matter of fact, i haven't had that horrible horror moment yet.

Sometimes newbies are really newbies even in crypto space hence they have no idea how anything works, no idea there are rules to follow hence won't even look or ask hence they post spamming stuff. Get trashed and get banned even. I have personally been reading alot more than i post since i joined the forum, trying to learn how it works and how to avoid trashing the forum with low qualities.

My point being, if everyone could give constructive criticism to low rank members when they shitpost or make off topic replies, it will enable us learn and improve. My 2cents 

[Qcrypto]

Here is prime example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287411.msg55540776#msg55540776

I made a post and this is what someone replied. Makes no sense.

[GDragon]

Constructive criticism goes a long way and it does boost confidence most times. I remember i had wanted to joined the forum way earlier but was relunctant as I'd seen alot of complains about the higher rank being bullies and rude to lower ranks. As a matter of fact, i haven't had that horrible horror moment yet.

Sometimes newbies are really newbies even in crypto space hence they have no idea how anything works, no idea there are rules to follow hence won't even look or ask hence they post spamming stuff. Get trashed and get banned even. I have personally been reading alot more than i post since i joined the forum, trying to learn how it works and how to avoid trashing the forum with low qualities.

My point being, if everyone could give constructive criticism to low rank members when they shitpost or make off topic replies, it will enable us learn and improve. My 2cents 

True, and I gave constructive criticism to only those who I felt need it, not to those users who are just shit posting, I tend to ignore them. We all know how a post looks when its just shit post. I also believe that for a constructive post to be seen as a constructive one, it should be written with respect and with zero disrespectful and sarcastic tone, just pure constructive criticism.  I've seen a lot of users replying a good post with 100% hate after correcting the OP, it won't feel good specially if the OP is newbie and just starting to learn about the thing. We can always reply with sincerity and knowledge without the stinky attitude.

[akirasendo17]

I think we members of the community should approach a reply in a nice way not just by being rude especially to newbies, in a motivational way wherein they will be encouraged not discouraged, let's be honest but some of us reply to a post in some way rude, remember that when we are like them, we did the same mistake and some teach us what to do in a nice way, the point here is that no matter if he or she is a newbie I think we approach everything in a nice way because we make an impact on what we say, it will affect a person if we are rude, I'm not saying that it's bad but we don't know if they have other battles

[finaleshot2016]

I think we members of the community should approach a reply in a nice way not just by being rude especially to newbies, in a motivational way wherein they will be encouraged not discouraged, let's be honest but some of us reply to a post in some way rude, remember that when we are like them, we did the same mistake and some teach us what to do in a nice way, the point here is that no matter if he or she is a newbie I think we approach everything in a nice way because we make an impact on what we say, it will affect a person if we are rude, I'm not saying that it's bad but we don't know if they have other battles

I'm always correcting if I think there's something wrong with their statement, constructive criticism is a must on this forum. Being rude is a wrong thing, I don't want to be rude to those who make mistakes since I've been in that position when I'm starting in this forum. Also, to the other side, they should also accept if someone is giving criticism on their statements, they should think that they've said something wrong or offending to someone.

True, and I gave constructive criticism to only those who I felt need it, not to those users who are just shit posting, I tend to ignore them. We all know how a post looks when its just shit post. I also believe that for a constructive post to be seen as a constructive one, it should be written with respect and with zero disrespectful and sarcastic tone, just pure constructive criticism.  I've seen a lot of users replying a good post with 100% hate after correcting the OP, it won't feel good specially if the OP is newbie and just starting to learn about the thing. We can always reply with sincerity and knowledge without the stinky attitude.

Same goes with me, I don't give attention to those post that doesn't make sense. More likely a waste of time if I gave criticism to those post who aren't really valuable.

[Smartvirus]

Many newbies are already scared of posting or making comments on posts based on the strick rules that governs the forum and the reports that is been done occasionally on default users and suggested for a ban. So, once a newbie get some form of criticism that comes off rather negatively, it reduces their self esteem and scares them. With a built up tension, a lot could go wrong.

I recall a time when I was just starting to create topics more frequently, CryptopreneurBrainboss criticised my work article and said, I'll just quote it here;

Ps: Nice thread by the way but please next time avoid capitalizing all your words (as seen with your title). It might discourage some forum members from reading your thread.

Noted on the caps lock thing

When you get corrected, the best method to show you understood what the corrector was trying to correct is to actually take that correction. In this case it means you should have immediately correct your style of writing but since that's not the scenario it means you didn't get my message.

Seems like you don't understand the symbolism of capitalizing all your words. To some it sounds like you're shouting while to other it might come with a angry tone. In your free time you can Google this out as it'll help you alot.

Understanding how to construct your English language properly will help you both on and off forum, don't take that for granted.

Edit: seem the correction, enjoy your merit by the way (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Even when I choose to wait a while, he persisted for an immediate effect and I responded by doing the necessary. Just like that, a positive character is built and instead of discouragements, you get encouragements. That's the way positive criticism works. So, it's best to help new users by criticizing only positively.