CoinSale Finance SCAM!

[persgrata]

CoinSale Finance

A scam project that refused to pay tokens to participants and salaries to its employees. Blocked me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385374.0
Founders are scammers

Also, there will be no payment of bounty tokens to participants. Here is the project chat: https://t.me/coinsalefinance
Proof on their part that we launched a bounty campaign at their request https://t.me/coinsalefinance/15183

Proof of the chat, where we discussed the conditions, the bounty campaign and the project admin is there.

[mahbubhunter]

Coinsale is big scammer. This project not pay bounty payment

[Danilo Malaggay]

Scam Project ⛔⛔⛔⛔⛔

[naim027]

This is not the first time you did that. You were doing that shit for over two years now. You are a totally unprofessional bounty manager. That's why Jawhead999 Tagged you two years ago. He also mentioned your previous managed scam projects

I understand we can't know what will happen in the future since we don't hold funds (escrow) and I know what bounty space condition right now. But do you think it's okay to repeating same mistakes and not learn from the past?

1. [BOUNTY] ETHERARCTOKEN - 60 + BTC exposed plagiarized whitepaper and fake team members https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5212225.0

2. [Bounty] [DEFI] Yearn.Global | Multi chain Defi platform Not paying https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290731.0

3. [SCAM] GLOBAL FINANCE | Employees are not paid wages. Not paying too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299954.0

4. [BOUNTY] BIACOIN Still not paying https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291669.0

I would like to say after Jawhead999, do you think it's okay to repeat the same mistakes and not learn from the past? Are you just playing with Bounty hunters? It's your responsibility to hold a % of Token of the prize pool. It's Your responsibility to verify the project. You don't even read the whitepaper of the project you managed.

[Fullcoinese]

No wonder the project he manages ends up being a scam. I feel a little sorry for the bounty hunter who are willing to waste their time just promoting a scam project and don't care about the OP reputation before joining 

[albon]

To be honest, I have participated in four bounties that are managed by persgrata. The Lepasa project is the only one whose team paid the participants, and the rest of the projects didn't pay the bounty hunters. I wasn't surprised when I saw that the coinsale project didn't pay the bounty hunters because the bounty manager didn't hold the bounty hunters' funds as escrow and didn't contract with the project team to send the participants' coins weekly to ensure their credibility.

[holydarkness]

I had to ask, given some people gave their statements here about how poor your bounty managing performance is, did you do a at least a quick research for the project you're about to manage? Or were you thinking that by writing this statement, you're free of all of any possible repercussions?

ATTENTION! OUR TEAM DOESN'T DO TOKEN DISTRIBUTION AFTER THE BOUNTY CAMPAIGN IS ENDED - THE PROJECT FOUNDER DOES IT! WE DO NOT ASSUME ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR DISTRIBUTION. OUR TASK CONSISTS ONLY IN CONDUCTING A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN. ALSO BY THIS MESSAGE, WE CONFIRM THAT THE FOUNDER WANTED TO CARRY OUT A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN AND IN THE COURSE ON COOPERATION. WE ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THE PROJECT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE, THEN PLEASE DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE BOUNTY CAMPAIGN.

If I may remind you, although it is on every participants duty to do their own DD, a CM and BM were still responsible to do their own DD to at least see how likely the project to be a rug pull, because their action of moderating the project implies their confidence for the said project and can be seen as a support toward the project.

With that out of the way and assuming your answer is, "yes, I do my DD" --because if you said otherwise, that you just randomly accept any project hiring you as their BM, we'll have a whole different situation and conversation here-- then how come you deemed project with these quality of whitepaper like below to have a likeliness, no matter how slight, to stay for a long term?

This is the one you raised on the accusation:


They have no clear date of roadmap, just "phase 1" and so on. How did this exactly shows a carefully planned and well thoroughly thought project? Their whitepaper is just 8 pages long and two of them were dedicated for cover --plus one for the obscure roadmap.

Another one of the whitepaper of the project which bounty you managed with similar situation:


Their entire whitepaper is just 9 pages long, with 2 pages allocated for front and back cover, and the other 7 serves basic and uninsightful content. And like CoinSale, their project hasno clear roadmap .

This one has a very trashy telegram group, with a questionable channel name --I even had to double check just to be sure I landed on the correct group-- and filled with spam bot.



So my question is --assuming you said that you've done your part to sort which project is an utter trash and which aren't-- how do you determine those project with such quality as something prospective? Or did you couldn't care less as long as you get paid?