2UP.io | No-KYC Crypto Casino & BTC Sportsbook | Fast Withdrawals + 200% Bonus

[bangjoe]

Posting here just to show how happy i am that 2UP casino will accept fiat deposit from the Philippines.
It's my first time betting fiat on a crypto bookies and most importantly in a no-kyc casino.

Stake accepts my local currency,  bc.game too and few other cryptocurrencies casinos that are now accepting fiat deposits and withdrawals,  the gambling market is expanding and at such we will see alot of adoption of features that futher aids the scalability of gambling and gambling houses including online casinos,  2Up is indeed doing a great job if their just added that fiat features to theor payment system.

In other words that the casino is currently doing scalability improvement from all access, crypto casino is not completely crypto casino but those who can only use Fiat also easily play on its platform, this is a rare good for the development of casino adoption that has more space for people who play gambling, because not every gambler uses crypto. But this could also be a marketing option for the crypto currency space and make it easier for us to convert crypto to Fiat from casino, is there such an option? I have never tried it, like I gamble using bitcoin, then win and afterwards I want to withdraw it into fiat, if there is a swap or exchange mechanism from crypto to fiat or vice versa I think it will be much more efficient without me having to run to DEX or CEX.

[gunhell16]

Yesterday I got invited to this casino with special offer (100FS @$0.5 per spin), good thing is that the winning from the free spins comes with no wagering requirement but unluckily the 100FS gave me $14 winning only. I managed to turned it to $100+ but lost it all eventually while trying to make it to $300 as the max amount to withdraw from the FS bonus. So far my experience is good enough although I havent tried to deposit my own money but I'll try it later as soon as possible.

What do you mean you received invitations directly from 2UP Casino itself? Did they send you a private message (PM) even before you already had an account there on 2UP?
Did you receive it through email, or did they PM you right here on your forum account?

You immediately got to play at their casino using 100 free spins (FS) without even making a deposit transaction? yet and out of those 100 FS you even managed to cash out $14 in winnings from it?
That’s actually not bad at all for just using free spins. It seems like they gave you a great experience, dude, through their gambling casino and from what I saw in your post,
you seemed to have enjoyed it too. If that’s the case, then congratulations!

[FortuneFollower]

^ I think almost any platform would go for you if you ruled out something from the AML policies..

[Davidvictorson]

^ I think almost any platform would go for you if you ruled out something from the AML policies..

I don't quite understand this. Are you referring to the individually willing to play at a casino if there is no AML policies or that no AML policies would make gambling at an online casino more attractive?

[lionheart78]

In other words that the casino is currently doing scalability improvement from all access, crypto casino is not completely crypto casino but those who can only use Fiat also easily play on its platform, this is a rare good for the development of casino adoption that has more space for people who play gambling, because not every gambler uses crypto.

Yeah it is good to see a flexible casino that also accepts fiat currency despite of initially aiming to be a crypto casino.  This shows that the casino is willing to extend its service for the convenience of its players.  After all, we all know that every customer is valuable and missing one audience or target prospect is a big loss for the platform.

But this could also be a marketing option for the crypto currency space and make it easier for us to convert crypto to Fiat from casino, is there such an option?

I have yet know that the platform is offering such service, can't find this feature on their platform, so I guess they have not establish such service or am I missing something?

I have never tried it, like I gamble using bitcoin, then win and afterwards I want to withdraw it into fiat, if there is a swap or exchange mechanism from crypto to fiat or vice versa I think it will be much more efficient without me having to run to DEX or CEX.

I have seen some casino with this feature, so I hope the 2up.io will look into this matter and see if this will benefit them.

[2UP.io]

It is not common for casino to provide a swap from crypto to fiat and allow players to withdraw the fiat.

Fiat payments is usually difficult and expensive for our industry.

Then again, plenty of exchanges have crypto off ramps to fiat and also offer P2P trading from crypto to fiat and vice versa, it is advisable to use them given the cheaper cost/spread and abundance of liquidity.

[GODENKOR]

Im asking the administration to take their deposit in case of a scam, as they currently have very bad reviews on CasinoGuru, where they steal deposits and block accounts. Apparently, they've decided to woo the last few users and pull off the scam.

Hi there,

We are not sure who this person is that wrote such a review, we invite such person to contact us and we can show their back office stats here.

We actually lost more than 300K USD to bonus abusers back in July and August when our systems were not fully ready.

Later on when we catch bonus abusers playing accumulator games or force quitting when doing bonus buy to clear bonus rollover we will of course confiscate their monies.
Now we have changed our FTD Bonus so that there is designated games that are allowed to be played and payout caps. Unfortunately only 927 games out of 7000 can be played if you get the FTD welcome bonus, this is a result of bonus abusers.

https://help.2up.io/en/articles/10972967-deposit-bonus-rollover

Almost all of these restrictions are automated not manual anymore.

Nevertheless, we are happy to discuss any issues and complaints and try to resolve them in a fair way.

Thank you for your feedback. You are also welcome to get our free bonus drop to try our site if you wish to do so.

The comments indicate that you block players for sports events and conduct identity checks. Your thread title is inaccurate. Please change it. And what about the x5 wager you forced the player to make and the fact that you blocked him? Please respond to the players on the casino guru website. Otherwise, I'm under the impression that you're incompetent.

[kawetsriyanto]

The comments indicate that you block players for sports events and conduct identity checks. Your thread title is inaccurate. Please change it. And what about the x5 wager you forced the player to make and the fact that you blocked him? Please respond to the players on the casino guru website. Otherwise, I'm under the impression that you're incompetent.

In which statement, he indicated that he blocked the players?  

You shouldn't judge first before you understand his statement. Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with the thread. Even it should be changed, let's him to decide himself. I think it has been discussed a lot of time, I don't understand why you make it too complicated.

Well, I don't know why you judge him incompetent. He has answered any issue and taken possible actions. By the way, I am quite curious with you. Why do you so care with those players?

[Wind_FURY]

Yesterday I got invited to this casino with special offer (100FS @$0.5 per spin), good thing is that the winning from the free spins comes with no wagering requirement but unluckily the 100FS gave me $14 winning only. I managed to turned it to $100+ but lost it all eventually while trying to make it to $300 as the max amount to withdraw from the FS bonus. So far my experience is good enough although I havent tried to deposit my own money but I'll try it later as soon as possible.

What do you mean you received invitations directly from 2UP Casino itself? Did they send you a private message (PM) even before you already had an account there on 2UP?

Did you receive it through email, or did they PM you right here on your forum account?

You immediately got to play at their casino using 100 free spins (FS) without even making a deposit transaction? yet and out of those 100 FS you even managed to cash out $14 in winnings from it?

That’s actually not bad at all for just using free spins. It seems like they gave you a great experience, dude, through their gambling casino and from what I saw in your post, you seemed to have enjoyed it too. If that’s the case, then congratulations!

That will NOT be good for the casino, in my personal opinion. Because the casino is not asking for their users identity/KYC, then there's high probability that the casino will be Sybil Attacked because of their generosity.

The same situation happened to BlackJack.Fun two years ago. They generously gave free spins for a slot-machine called Dig Dig Digger, and allowed everyone to withdraw their winnings. The casino's "users" surged, but most of that were merely from the people/group that exploited the casino.

[gunhell16]

Yesterday I got invited to this casino with special offer (100FS @$0.5 per spin), good thing is that the winning from the free spins comes with no wagering requirement but unluckily the 100FS gave me $14 winning only. I managed to turned it to $100+ but lost it all eventually while trying to make it to $300 as the max amount to withdraw from the FS bonus. So far my experience is good enough although I havent tried to deposit my own money but I'll try it later as soon as possible.

What do you mean you received invitations directly from 2UP Casino itself? Did they send you a private message (PM) even before you already had an account there on 2UP?

Did you receive it through email, or did they PM you right here on your forum account?

You immediately got to play at their casino using 100 free spins (FS) without even making a deposit transaction? yet and out of those 100 FS you even managed to cash out $14 in winnings from it?

That’s actually not bad at all for just using free spins. It seems like they gave you a great experience, dude, through their gambling casino and from what I saw in your post, you seemed to have enjoyed it too. If that’s the case, then congratulations!

That will NOT be good for the casino, in my personal opinion. Because the casino is not asking for their users identity/KYC, then there's high probability that the casino will be Sybil Attacked because of their generosity.

The same situation happened to BlackJack.Fun two years ago. They generously gave free spins for a slot-machine called Dig Dig Digger, and allowed everyone to withdraw their winnings. The casino's "users" surged, but most of that were merely from the people/group that exploited the casino.

Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of that right away. It's possible that it could be abused indeed, I agree with that. What I noticed was that he received the Fs and then won something
from his gambling at the casino. So, what the casino should really do is further enhance the security of their platform.

This way, their gamblers will feel more confident that the casino gambling platform is secure. In other words, the casino should proactively strengthen its security measures right
from the start to prevent exploitative individuals from doing bad things on the gambling platform.

[khiholangkang]

Yesterday I got invited to this casino with special offer (100FS @$0.5 per spin), good thing is that the winning from the free spins comes with no wagering requirement but unluckily the 100FS gave me $14 winning only. I managed to turned it to $100+ but lost it all eventually while trying to make it to $300 as the max amount to withdraw from the FS bonus. So far my experience is good enough although I havent tried to deposit my own money but I'll try it later as soon as possible.

What do you mean you received invitations directly from 2UP Casino itself? Did they send you a private message (PM) even before you already had an account there on 2UP?

Did you receive it through email, or did they PM you right here on your forum account?

You immediately got to play at their casino using 100 free spins (FS) without even making a deposit transaction? yet and out of those 100 FS you even managed to cash out $14 in winnings from it?

That’s actually not bad at all for just using free spins. It seems like they gave you a great experience, dude, through their gambling casino and from what I saw in your post, you seemed to have enjoyed it too. If that’s the case, then congratulations!

That will NOT be good for the casino, in my personal opinion. Because the casino is not asking for their users identity/KYC, then there's high probability that the casino will be Sybil Attacked because of their generosity.

The same situation happened to BlackJack.Fun two years ago. They generously gave free spins for a slot-machine called Dig Dig Digger, and allowed everyone to withdraw their winnings. The casino's "users" surged, but most of that were merely from the people/group that exploited the casino.

Bad impacts can happen like this indeed if it is allowed to continue, there should already be a limit for users who can access it and this event is only for FCFS such as only for the fastest 10 users after the quota is met, no more people can access it, I think the restrictions should be more complete and not just open events for the long-term sustainability of the casino.

Events like that will be awaited by many people especially those who want to maximize profits by using many accounts to drain their reserves, even though users are surging but that is not a good thing in the long run.

[GODENKOR]

The comments indicate that you block players for sports events and conduct identity checks. Your thread title is inaccurate. Please change it. And what about the x5 wager you forced the player to make and the fact that you blocked him? Please respond to the players on the casino guru website. Otherwise, I'm under the impression that you're incompetent.

In which statement, he indicated that he blocked the players?  

You shouldn't judge first before you understand his statement. Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with the thread. Even it should be changed, let's him to decide himself. I think it has been discussed a lot of time, I don't understand why you make it too complicated.

Well, I don't know why you judge him incompetent. He has answered any issue and taken possible actions. By the way, I am quite curious with you. Why do you so care with those players?

Why shouldn't I care? There are too many casinos here advertising their services and stealing players' money behind their stupid rules. You see, their rules say they can steal deposits. Let them be responsible for their actions and not keep quiet. I see that the casino here is active, but on the casino guru website they're silent. You shouldn't care at all, because I didn't ask you for advice; I asked the casino.

[2UP.io]

Im asking the administration to take their deposit in case of a scam, as they currently have very bad reviews on CasinoGuru, where they steal deposits and block accounts. Apparently, they've decided to woo the last few users and pull off the scam.

Hi there,

We are not sure who this person is that wrote such a review, we invite such person to contact us and we can show their back office stats here.

We actually lost more than 300K USD to bonus abusers back in July and August when our systems were not fully ready.

Later on when we catch bonus abusers playing accumulator games or force quitting when doing bonus buy to clear bonus rollover we will of course confiscate their monies.
Now we have changed our FTD Bonus so that there is designated games that are allowed to be played and payout caps. Unfortunately only 927 games out of 7000 can be played if you get the FTD welcome bonus, this is a result of bonus abusers.

https://help.2up.io/en/articles/10972967-deposit-bonus-rollover

Almost all of these restrictions are automated not manual anymore.

Nevertheless, we are happy to discuss any issues and complaints and try to resolve them in a fair way.

Thank you for your feedback. You are also welcome to get our free bonus drop to try our site if you wish to do so.

The comments indicate that you block players for sports events and conduct identity checks. Your thread title is inaccurate. Please change it. And what about the x5 wager you forced the player to make and the fact that you blocked him? Please respond to the players on the casino guru website. Otherwise, I'm under the impression that you're incompetent.

Hello,

Our thread title is No-KYC, this is accurate per the terms of service and also accurate in practice as we don't ask for it, if anyone has been asked KYC since the launch of this thread please post with evidence and we will gladly take it off.

We will not change the thread title when it is factual and not misleading.

5x wager applies if you NEVER made a deposit and you want to withdraw, these are stated clearly for people who wish to collect bonuses without making a deposit, just check the second post of this thread.

https://help.2up.io/en/articles/12264449-no-deposit-bonus-no-deposit-free-spins-withdrawal-rules

We ran this promo here on bitcointalk and we limited it to the first 100 players, I don't see anyone complaining, get 10$ without depositing, play as long as you want, if you make it to XX amount, deposit that XX amount, play 5x and can withdraw the whole thing, its pretty good deal, but then again its not compulsory, if you don't like it just don't take it, why would this be incompetent?

We are not active on casino.guru because they tell us we must be online for 1 year to make any interaction with them. We don't even know how to respond. Since your so active on casino.guru you can bring whoever is upset over to bitcointalk forum and I will gladly explain what happened, what the issue is, I can also show all the stats if the player wishes us to. By the way, I have no idea who the person on casinoguru is, they never mentioned their username or id, if it is you please let us know and we will transparently address any issues.

We have been online here for a few weeks, some register using the code some don't we don't discriminate against btctalk members or non-members.

I think maybe your someone that was blocked for sports and based on all your previous posts about other casinos it is the same.

As I said if playing sports betting irregularly and such will attract risk management alert and your account will be blocked, there have been a few such instances and it has been addressed on this forum.

You can try shopping for a betting platform that take those late bets or arbitrage bets or bets on third tier womens league but I suppose will also end up on the forum complaining.

We have a player from btctalk bet 10k on 1 match and win and withdraw right after settlement with no issues or kyc.

If you want to play sports with 0 chance of your bets being canceled please go to sx.bet but then maybe your a pro punter and you don't like their prices and you end up fishing on other platforms, I don't know.

The comments indicate that you block players for sports events and conduct identity checks. Your thread title is inaccurate. Please change it. And what about the x5 wager you forced the player to make and the fact that you blocked him? Please respond to the players on the casino guru website. Otherwise, I'm under the impression that you're incompetent.

In which statement, he indicated that he blocked the players? 

You shouldn't judge first before you understand his statement. Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with the thread. Even it should be changed, let's him to decide himself. I think it has been discussed a lot of time, I don't understand why you make it too complicated.

Well, I don't know why you judge him incompetent. He has answered any issue and taken possible actions. By the way, I am quite curious with you. Why do you so care with those players?

Why shouldn't I care? There are too many casinos here advertising their services and stealing players' money behind their stupid rules. You see, their rules say they can steal deposits. Let them be responsible for their actions and not keep quiet. I see that the casino here is active, but on the casino guru website they're silent. You shouldn't care at all, because I didn't ask you for advice; I asked the casino.

We not active on guru because we never run any campaign there, there could be dozens of sites that indexed us and we don't know about it. We are active and have ads on asianbookie.com

Like if you started a thread on 2UP without telling us how are we suppose to respond???

No one on guru even mention their username or id.

We have people blackmail us weekly saying if we didn't give them money then they will write bad stuff about us or if we didn't do this or that they will whatever.

People can judge by themselves which casino is ok or not.

We going to spend millions to build a proprietary casino and spend so much on marketing so that we can earn 1 to 2% edge on casino games then we confiscate sports bets that win 100$? what kind of business model is that? It is better we just go run a scam site using whitelabel or put the money on stablecoin earning yield.

What is your care about? Did you have a bad experience in 2UP? Share your ID or username and we can discuss transparently what happened to your account and let forum members be the judge instead of just blabbing about nonsense.

Yesterday I got invited to this casino with special offer (100FS @$0.5 per spin), good thing is that the winning from the free spins comes with no wagering requirement but unluckily the 100FS gave me $14 winning only. I managed to turned it to $100+ but lost it all eventually while trying to make it to $300 as the max amount to withdraw from the FS bonus. So far my experience is good enough although I havent tried to deposit my own money but I'll try it later as soon as possible.

What do you mean you received invitations directly from 2UP Casino itself? Did they send you a private message (PM) even before you already had an account there on 2UP?

Did you receive it through email, or did they PM you right here on your forum account?

You immediately got to play at their casino using 100 free spins (FS) without even making a deposit transaction? yet and out of those 100 FS you even managed to cash out $14 in winnings from it?

That’s actually not bad at all for just using free spins. It seems like they gave you a great experience, dude, through their gambling casino and from what I saw in your post, you seemed to have enjoyed it too. If that’s the case, then congratulations!

That will NOT be good for the casino, in my personal opinion. Because the casino is not asking for their users identity/KYC, then there's high probability that the casino will be Sybil Attacked because of their generosity.

The same situation happened to BlackJack.Fun two years ago. They generously gave free spins for a slot-machine called Dig Dig Digger, and allowed everyone to withdraw their winnings. The casino's "users" surged, but most of that were merely from the people/group that exploited the casino.

Bad impacts can happen like this indeed if it is allowed to continue, there should already be a limit for users who can access it and this event is only for FCFS such as only for the fastest 10 users after the quota is met, no more people can access it, I think the restrictions should be more complete and not just open events for the long-term sustainability of the casino.

Events like that will be awaited by many people especially those who want to maximize profits by using many accounts to drain their reserves, even though users are surging but that is not a good thing in the long run.

Hi there,

No deposit bonuses are first come first serve and there is always a limit to how many can be redeemed.
These are also restricted to forum players only.

Yesterday I got invited to this casino with special offer (100FS @$0.5 per spin), good thing is that the winning from the free spins comes with no wagering requirement but unluckily the 100FS gave me $14 winning only. I managed to turned it to $100+ but lost it all eventually while trying to make it to $300 as the max amount to withdraw from the FS bonus. So far my experience is good enough although I havent tried to deposit my own money but I'll try it later as soon as possible.

What do you mean you received invitations directly from 2UP Casino itself? Did they send you a private message (PM) even before you already had an account there on 2UP?

Did you receive it through email, or did they PM you right here on your forum account?

You immediately got to play at their casino using 100 free spins (FS) without even making a deposit transaction? yet and out of those 100 FS you even managed to cash out $14 in winnings from it?

That’s actually not bad at all for just using free spins. It seems like they gave you a great experience, dude, through their gambling casino and from what I saw in your post, you seemed to have enjoyed it too. If that’s the case, then congratulations!

That will NOT be good for the casino, in my personal opinion. Because the casino is not asking for their users identity/KYC, then there's high probability that the casino will be Sybil Attacked because of their generosity.

The same situation happened to BlackJack.Fun two years ago. They generously gave free spins for a slot-machine called Dig Dig Digger, and allowed everyone to withdraw their winnings. The casino's "users" surged, but most of that were merely from the people/group that exploited the casino.

Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of that right away. It's possible that it could be abused indeed, I agree with that. What I noticed was that he received the Fs and then won something
from his gambling at the casino. So, what the casino should really do is further enhance the security of their platform.

This way, their gamblers will feel more confident that the casino gambling platform is secure. In other words, the casino should proactively strengthen its security measures right
from the start to prevent exploitative individuals from doing bad things on the gambling platform.

Hi there,

Cannot exploit the FTD bonus, it is not as bulletproof as Stake but it is good enough that there won't be many exploits on it.

No deposit bonuses have limits and small constraints such as needing to deposit before withdrawals.

[lionheart78]

Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of that right away. It's possible that it could be abused indeed, I agree with that. What I noticed was that he received the Fs and then won something
from his gambling at the casino. So, what the casino should really do is further enhance the security of their platform.

The act of generousity is often exploited, we have seen it plenty in our daily lives.  Friends and relatives exploit their generous kin, what more in the casino where most people are into gain.  When it comes to promotion, bonuses, and free spins, casinos should think of a strategy to make their offer generous, and at the same time do not get exploited by bad players.

This way, their gamblers will feel more confident that the casino gambling platform is secure. In other words, the casino should proactively strengthen its security measures right
from the start to prevent exploitative individuals from doing bad things on the gambling platform.

True, but the exploiter wanted the casinos to lapse on their security, so as not to get exploited, Casinos not only need to strengthen their security but also create reasonable and attractive promotions that will not jeopardize their financial funds

5x wager applies if you NEVER made a deposit and you want to withdraw, these are stated clearly for people who wish to collect bonuses without making a deposit, just check the second post of this thread.

This kind of requirement for a non-deposit bonus is very generous; most casinos require to deposit of a certain amount plus a wagering requirement in order to get the winnings from the no deposit bonus.

[Davidvictorson]

Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of that right away. It's possible that it could be abused indeed, I agree with that. What I noticed was that he received the Fs and then won something
from his gambling at the casino. So, what the casino should really do is further enhance the security of their platform.

The act of generousity is often exploited, we have seen it plenty in our daily lives.  Friends and relatives exploit their generous kin, what more in the casino where most people are into gain.  When it comes to promotion, bonuses, and free spins, casinos should think of a strategy to make their offer generous, and at the same time do not get exploited by bad players.

Very true of what you have said. And it is these people that turn around to try to give the casino a bad name once they are eventually caught just like we saw some weeks ago here. In as much I like the bonuses and all, I agree with you that casinos should more in terms of their security. And they can even run a check on it themselves without waiting until a player takes advantage of it before they act. They should be proactive or the abuse will continue.

[un_rank]

...

When you make random, baseless accusations on different casino threads it makes it difficult for anyone to take you serious and also reduces the attention that actual users with issues get. I have seen you across multiple threads making accusations with no evidence to back that up.

- Jay -

[virasog]

Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of that right away. It's possible that it could be abused indeed, I agree with that. What I noticed was that he received the Fs and then won something
from his gambling at the casino. So, what the casino should really do is further enhance the security of their platform.

The act of generousity is often exploited, we have seen it plenty in our daily lives.  Friends and relatives exploit their generous kin, what more in the casino where most people are into gain.  When it comes to promotion, bonuses, and free spins, casinos should think of a strategy to make their offer generous, and at the same time do not get exploited by bad players.

Very true of what you have said. And it is these people that turn around to try to give the casino a bad name once they are eventually caught just like we saw some weeks ago here. In as much I like the bonuses and all, I agree with you that casinos should more in terms of their security. And they can even run a check on it themselves without waiting until a player takes advantage of it before they act. They should be proactive or the abuse will continue.

Yup, I agree with you and also if anyone is found guilty of violating the rules of the promotions or bonuses like making multiple accounts to abuse the bonuses etc, they should not be spared if found and all their money should be confiscated to that they get their lessons well. Also when such scammers will be dealt seriously, other gamblers may refrain from taking such risk because they know that if got caught, they will have to face the consequences.

Also if the gambling site have the KYC data of the gamblers, they can go one step ahead and take legal action against the gamblers too but that may not be possible for every country.

[Bitinity]

What do you mean you received invitations directly from 2UP Casino itself? Did they send you a private message (PM) even before you already had an account there on 2UP?
Did you receive it through email, or did they PM you right here on your forum account?

You immediately got to play at their casino using 100 free spins (FS) without even making a deposit transaction? yet and out of those 100 FS you even managed to cash out $14 in winnings from it?

Kindly get back to the previous page as I have said about it to answer similar question by Mahdirakib so I do not need to repeat it just to answer your question. As addition, I have not created an account here before I received the offer, if I had an account already, I am pretty sure that I wont be eligible for the offer. I got the free spins for free without making a deposit but there is a rule that in order to withdraw winning from the free spins, I need to have at least 1 deposit. Also reread my post again so you do not need to ask something which I have shared especially about the winning.

[GODENKOR]

...

When you make random, baseless accusations on different casino threads it makes it difficult for anyone to take you serious and also reduces the attention that actual users with issues get. I have seen you across multiple threads making accusations with no evidence to back that up.

- Jay -

Many casinos claim they don't conduct KYC checks, but then people complain about them later saying they do. It seems you were too upset. I'm not registered with you. It seems you advertise on Asian sites, and many Asian casinos simply don't pay out winnings. I talk to Chinese people, and they play roulette at the casino. They can get cheated at any time. What provider do you use for sports?

[suzanne5223]

Kindly get back to the previous page as I have said about it to answer similar question by Mahdirakib so I do not need to repeat it just to answer your question. As addition, I have not created an account here before I received the offer, if I had an account already, I am pretty sure that I wont be eligible for the offer. I got the free spins for free without making a deposit but there is a rule that in order to withdraw winning from the free spins, I need to have at least 1 deposit. Also reread my post again so you do not need to ask something which I have shared especially about the winning.

Yes, that's correct, and I believe every gambler will agree that it is normal for a casino to require new users to make their first deposit before unlocking certain perks. However, 2UP has a no deposit bonus which was opened for at least 100 users of this forum ^{(if i still remember the number correctly, and i don't know if the no deposit is still available for now)}
I think s/he doesn't know that there are some free benefits provided by 2UP for Bitcointalk users and their telegram members, which I believe is the reason why s/he doesn't understand you.