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July 28, 2021, 01:22:09 AM
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I ordered a miner on the web on coinminingcentral.com and it finally came I've deleted all the bad messages now.
The bobcat 300 showed up too a few weeks late but a real company...
You'll just have to use your own judgment whether to trust anyone on the web.

as promised I've taken off the nasty comments I said, but I can't delete other's quotes... good luck
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July 29, 2021, 06:41:19 AM
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It's about time you started learning a lesson, as you have been a victim several times. Ask the community before you send money if you are not sure. We have mining and service boards here where members know legit stores that sell miners.

I ordered a miner on the web on coinminingcentral.com and the price was really low for a great machine, so I had my doubts to begin with.
I paid the fee in coinbasecommerce 1149.99GBP equivalent to 1586.20USDC. I immediatly got a return that the price was an error, and they sent me into a circle claiming I had been refunded but the money never went back into my account
So many complaints about them. I don't trust them

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240112.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291152.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157316.0

This isn't the first time in the last few months I've been Scammed.

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I tried to purchase GPU's on ebay.com and the items never showed up... Thousands Scammed
Never buy miners from Ebay, amazon. You can easily get duped.

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I tried to purchase GPU's from Chasemining.com Pablo in Spain they never showed... Thousands Scammed
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I tried to purchase from Innosilicon.us Wasted money and no miner... Thousands Scammed
Scam, the official site is https://innosilicon.com

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I tried to purchase Bobcat miners, still waiting over 12 weeks... sure... Hundreds Scammed (maybe)
Which site did you use. Is it this (https://www.bobcatminer.com)?

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I swear this decentralized coin system is the end of real commerce.
Decentralization means you take full control of your money. If you are just going to careless hand out your money without doing and due diligence. You will end up funding scammers every time.

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July 29, 2021, 11:32:52 AM
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I tried to purchase GPU's on ebay.com and the items never showed up... Thousands Scammed
Never buy miners from Ebay, amazon. You can easily get duped.

I agree with everything you said but the above.
Both eBay and Amazon have very good buyer protection.

Which is why repeatedly on here we tell people not to sell their old miners on  on eBay / Amazon (mostly eBay).
OP sounds like someone who heard about the "magical internet money" and did a quick search and bought the 1st miners they saw without doing any research.


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July 29, 2021, 10:02:37 PM
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I'm not saying I didn't get miners, I just got scammed 9 times out of 10, and I questioned every purchase.

That is a stunning rate of getting scammed. Perhaps you should hold off from making future purchases from this industry.

The whole system is a sham a fake to get the unknowing to send off too much money for "little" profit.
The only way it works is if you've got free power and a huge bankroll, because everyone is ripping you off.

This part has some truth to it in that it's definitely an insider's game. Some people who have been at it for quite a while know how to make it work in their own way... we have quite a few successful independent miners here on the forum.

I might sound like I'm venting, but I want people to know they are about to get taken in every way.

No harm in that I suppose. And I even checked the link of the one place you said was alright, and they appear to be legit. Was wondering if this was a weird advert or something at first.

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July 30, 2021, 09:11:23 PM
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Also the ebay deals I've had are messed up because they get your money and you wait for the item but it could
be weeks then you go back to give bad feedback and the sellers been banned and you are out.
Trying at that point to recover from the purchase showing receipts and statements to fraud agents.
Like I said, avoid buying miners from sites like eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, Alibaba. Even with the buyer protection. You will still get duped. They will send you something that is not what you expected and by the time you realize. The Buyer protection will have expired.

As far as the Bobcat goes they claimed 8-12 weeks... 2 days to make the 12 week deadline.
Batch 13? at this rate it will be another month
You still haven't specified which site you used. So many fake sites out there, and you might be waiting in vain.

The rule should be to always buy miners from official manufacturer's stores and partners. If the miner is out of stock in official sites. Don't go looking for them in random sites. There's 100% chance of getting scammed.

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How the hell did you get scammed again? That's a pretty stupid thing in my opinion to be scammed again and not learning a thing or two about the first time that you got scammed. Also, aren't there sites that are legitimate stores for this mining rigs?
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July 31, 2021, 01:32:40 PM
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~snip~

You ask great questions, because once someone is scammed, they usually learn a lesson - but if they are scammed 9 out of 10 times, then the question arises as to whether that person is actually looking for trouble and finds it obviously in unlimited quantities. Of course, it should be taken into account that the OP obviously has a lot of money, because how else to explain that it wastes it so easily...

One thing also catches my eye, and that is that the OP praises one company - so the question arises why experiment if there is someone you trust completely? Specifically in this regard -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228208.msg53916792#msg53916792

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July 31, 2021, 01:36:15 PM
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~snip~

You ask great questions, because once someone is scammed, they usually learn a lesson - but if they are scammed 9 out of 10 times, then the question arises as to whether that person is actually looking for trouble and finds it obviously in unlimited quantities. Of course, it should be taken into account that the OP obviously has a lot of money, because how else to explain that it wastes it so easily...

One thing also catches my eye, and that is that the OP praises one company - so the question arises why experiment if there is someone you trust completely? Specifically in this regard -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228208.msg53916792#msg53916792
That's cool coming from you. Also, why still do the same mistakes though? Just because OP has a lot of money that means that he has to be careless about it. That's an intriguing one, why not go that right?
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July 31, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
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ou ask great questions, because once someone is scammed, they usually learn a lesson - but if they are scammed 9 out of 10 times, then the question arises as to whether that person is actually looking for trouble and finds it obviously in unlimited quantities. Of course, it should be taken into account that the OP obviously has a lot of money, because how else to explain that it wastes it so easily...

One thing also catches my eye, and that is that the OP praises one company - so the question arises why experiment if there is someone you trust completely? Specifically in this regard -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228208.msg53916792#msg53916792
He surprised me too. How does someone get scammed for 9 times and doesn't even bother changing the way they try to shop for the mining gear?
When you get scammed that many times, even just 3 times, then just know that maybe the problem is you.

About miningcave. It seems they are not a scam, though OP praising it in a scam accusation kind of raises questions on what the purpose of this post was.

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August 01, 2021, 10:00:07 AM
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Also, why still do the same mistakes though?

If there is truth in what the OP states, then the real problem is in its approach - because paying such large sums of money to strangers really doesn't make sense without escrow or at least using PayPal which protects the customer very well. If it’s not a scam thing, then that’s what I’ve already mentioned - you say 9 companies are scam, and point out one that isn’t - free advertising.



About miningcave. It seems they are not a scam, though OP praising it in a scam accusation kind of raises questions on what the purpose of this post was.

They are not very likely, but from the thread I linked it can be seen that their prices are at least 20-30% higher than if someone are bought directly from the manufacturer. Everything, of course, comes at a price, and orders from China have slowed down considerably since the pandemic.

In this regard, we may be able to conclude that most of these sellers actually order goods from China only when the buyer pays for them - and given the delivery situation, the whole delivery process to the buyer can take quite a long time.

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About miningcave. It seems they are not a scam, though OP praising it in a scam accusation kind of raises questions on what the purpose of this post was.

Common, if we follow this pattern nobody will want to suggest a reseller because they will be accused of shilling.
Miningcave has been around for years, they have their own topics and threads, and they are one of the few left in business still being legit, if you buy from five places and get scammed in four wouldn't you mention where you haven't get scammed?
And now that I've defended miningcave, does my post also raises questions?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

They are not very likely, but from the thread I linked it can be seen that their prices are at least 20-30% higher than if someone are bought directly from the manufacturer. Everything, of course, comes at a price, and orders from China have slowed down considerably since the pandemic.

Good luck managing to buy something directly, the L7 is sold out at Bitmain at $12.8k, Miningcave still has that batch at just 14,314, that 10%, it's the average around, I've seen even worse. Prices go up whenever there is a solid spike in revenue, with little gear on the market once the manufacturer is sold out you could pay even double for it. On top of that resellers always manage to get ahead of normal customers, even manufacturers favor this, is far better to deal with 10 customers than with 1000.
And this is how you end with dropshipping companies that afford to pay upfront for 100-200 pieces and then sell them with a nice bonus on top of it.

Now, OP, after congratulating you for not falling for the miningcave clone website that has made a few victims around, do you plan on changing your strategy and before purchasing something from some random website come here on the forum in the reputation section and ask if this and that one are legit or not? 


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