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July 16, 2021, 07:40:18 PM
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I don't know if it's just my impression or what. And I don't know if it's just a coincidence. What is clear is that if you open threads (if they don't suck) it's easier to get merits.
I have that feeling as well but I also have a perfectly good explanation for it based on my own example. When I am opening a thread that post usually takes much more time and effort from me than a reply on someone else topic which results in longer and hopefully more valuable post to the community as whole. Or in other case I am running a gambling pool or something and OP is like the default place for people to recognize my efforts throughout the entire thread which lasts for whole year or even longer.

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July 16, 2021, 07:45:35 PM
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Cleary the trend is here and more and more are popping up
One of them even dared to make topic how opening topics is not merit hunting:
I quoted 4 of his topics here, in none has me bothered to contribute to the discussion, and guess what, today 3 more

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I reported the first one as it's pure garbage, let's see what the mods think about it.

With all the tools our beloved AI users have created, is there a way to track the activity rank of users that opened topics? I'm really curious about the percentages, especially in the BD section.



You can not justify his reasons of making such posts cause it may look suspicious to you, while to him might be a reasonable question. The level of understand of this forum and how it works differs especially to a person that doesn't have good knowledge on cryptocurrency and it activities.

Don't try to judge anybody here, we are all learning. It wouldn't be bad if he/she is corrected not castigating them. We'll started as a novice and we'll are expected to show an epitome. No body is perfect!

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July 16, 2021, 08:01:55 PM
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Don't try to judge anybody here, we are all learning. It wouldn't be bad if he/she is corrected not castigating them. We'll started as a novice and we'll are expected to show an epitome. No body is perfect!
I have been on both sides of the divide; the lowest rank and the highest and I can understand why lower ranked members can view the retorts of higher ranked members as standoffish and also how higher ranked members would see posts from lower ranked as insincere or made to bait others for merits.

This is a general forum and there are different kind of members here, the trolls, spammers, scammers, helpful members etc, and regardless of your rank you will have to grow a thick skin so as not to take any comment here too personal, while also being open to learning regardless of your rank.

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July 23, 2021, 12:21:22 PM
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I have been on both sides of the divide; the lowest rank and the highest and I can understand why lower ranked members can view the retorts of higher ranked members as standoffish and also how higher ranked members would see posts from lower ranked as insincere or made to bait others for merits.

This is a general forum and there are different kind of members here, the trolls, spammers, scammers, helpful members etc, and regardless of your rank you will have to grow a thick skin so as not to take any comment here too personal, while also being open to learning regardless of your rank.

Can't blame the seniors because they've seen the patterns. A minority of them are genuinely interested, then we have those coming to "work for companies" and the plagiarizers. And then the old returning as new members.

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July 23, 2021, 04:17:06 PM
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I have been on both sides of the divide; the lowest rank and the highest and I can understand why lower ranked members can view the retorts of higher ranked members as standoffish and also how higher ranked members would see posts from lower ranked as insincere or made to bait others for merits.
Its a vicious cycle. When you sign up on this forum, your probably pretty new to Bitcoin, and with that excitement you can't wait to post, and because you lack the experience at that point in time, with the old forum system, and Bitcoin your probably going to say a lot of things which shows that you are inexperienced, but not only that Bitcointalk is probably one of the best forums in terms of the posting standards set by the community, and the guidelines so new users might not understand why asking a question that's been asked a million times or why their reply was reported, and deleted.

Then the older users after time become more experienced, and they've seen the same types of questions, and start to find it tedious. So, what might be an innocent question, becomes spam to those that are experienced, yet a couple of years ago they would have seen that as normal. There's a sort of elitism that comes with higher ranks, and its just a unfortunate part of life in almost every department, you'll see that elitism creep in. However, we've got to understand that newbies are generally quite eager to get involved in Bitcoin, and I do think we are a little hostile at times, and sometimes its probably warranted. Finding the in between is probably pretty hard for most users. I understand from both perspectives.

We know that users who want to earn merit, try to create threads because its more exposure, and that might lead to more merits. Like I said though previously, while it probably does still apply, I believe the merit coverage these days means that replies get just as much attention.

I have that feeling as well but I also have a perfectly good explanation for it based on my own example. When I am opening a thread that post usually takes much more time and effort from me than a reply on someone else topic which results in longer and hopefully more valuable post to the community as whole. Or in other case I am running a gambling pool or something and OP is like the default place for people to recognize my efforts throughout the entire thread which lasts for whole year or even longer.
This is probably the case for most users. I remember how long it took me to get the "Reporting Effectively" thread up, and how long that took. Although, I think partly that was because of the way it was set out, and it being a guide rather than personal opinion so there was a lot of research that went into that. Replies, most people do off the cuff, rather than cite research etc. There are definitely exceptions to that though.
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July 23, 2021, 06:26:27 PM
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Don't try to judge anybody here, we are all learning. It wouldn't be bad if he/she is corrected not castigating them. We'll started as a novice and we'll are expected to show an epitome. No body is perfect!

Well it all depends on you and what you consider his observations to be, at some point I was in this shoes as I got observed but Instead of playing the victim/pity card, I seized the opportunity to better myself. When you're been corrected don't consider it as an attack. Understand that he won't be gaining anything from attacking so why will he be wasting his precious time doing so.

Take the corrections as what they're, atleast it means someone is looking into your account or observing you and if you better yourself definitely the effort will be rewarded. In regrads to newbies opening more thread, while as a newbie there's always the mentality that threads easily get more merits than reply so this drive them into putting more effort in threads creation.

And if there's an observations of newbie threads getting merited than more will follow that pattern hoping for same reward. If you're a newbie reading this, I'll advice you to put more efforts into replies as much as you do in creating threads. People react more to reply and provided you write something worth rewarding, you'll get merited. You don't have to spam the forum with generic threads.

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July 24, 2021, 02:25:52 AM
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What is clear is that if you open threads (if they don't suck) it's easier to get merits. I don't know if they know it and that's why.
Not true at all. If you are generating quality post, you will get merit. No matter it’s a reply or a thread itself. Without quality, no matter what you create, you are unlikely to get merit.
Regarding creating thread, I see no problem with that if the topic is something to discuss about, if the topic isn’t discussed hundreds of times. Then there's nothing wrong to create a thread.

I am a beginner. Although I have known the Bitcoin forum for more than a year, it is a recent thing to really get into and familiar with the forum. One of my feelings is that many sections of the forum are not very active, and active people are slowly Both leave an impression on each other, so when new people appear in large numbers, we should pay attention to the following points:

  • Does the newcomer abide by the rules of the forum?Nothing can be accomplished without norms or standards,No one can break.
  • Whether newcomers can post some high-quality content, content is king.
  • Whether the newcomer is for learning rather than simply doing bounty programs, because I found that many people have very high active values, but MERIT is 0


I also sincerely put forward some of my comments.

  • We should actively encourage those novices who have attitudes, content, and opinions, and don't reject them
  • People's reality is not a problem, but it is not right to seek quick success. I think that in the bounty program sector, thresholds should be set up to be operated by different teams. The establishment of an access system, including project review, can prevent newcomers who simply do the plan, and feel that they have a lot of alt, This is annoying
  • I personally hate spam. Reading that they are disrespectful to time. Therefore, newcomers should set up a procedure similar to an exam and enter the forum after passing.

Personal point of view, I hope you can provide more comments, thank you, thank you. I will accept your criticism and guidance.
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July 24, 2021, 04:27:24 AM
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Excluding the members who genuinely wants to learn about bitcoin so they create topic, I do find it odd too that there are a lot of newbies posting threads and most of them are posting some sort of promotion that gets deleted by the mods but it seems that this people are still doing it using another account promoting something.
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July 26, 2021, 05:47:44 AM
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The only thing I've noticed is that when "newbies/junior members" open a thread, in most cases the did not leave any post after they've opened it.

 They dont post a single "Thank you" after they got posts with answer to their question or a step-by-step guide with solution to problem they had.
 Sort of a posting to get more activity on account.
I replied one post one by one to express my gratitude to the friend who provided help, but the posts were deleted by the administrator.
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I replied one post one by one to express my gratitude to the friend who provided help, but the posts were deleted by the administrator.

The simple word "thank you" without comment is usually removed. There was a lot of controversy about this. If you want to thank a person or several people who answered your questions, combine everything in one post, we often see a simple "thank you" answer that is written to everyone who answered. Just make it clear that you understood everything that interested you, and here you need to be a little more eloquent. And also in addition to what you watched, and you liked any answer, you can use merit (well, I think everyone is familiar with this)

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August 14, 2021, 06:18:34 PM
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...//...,,, It is very relevant to bump those threads because they help a lot of people.
hi,
In fact, in the absence of an efficient search engine, the "bumps" and replys of certain topics are necessary.

That said, as long as someone does not exceed the written rules and the etiquette (not written), what is the problem, especially in these moments where there is a certain spirit of new users.

let the beginnings of topics "jump," but constructive, there is already a certain resentment for those who are not, in any case we are all on the same line, we all seek to contribute, sometimes it is achieved sometimes not.

The irony of your post is that you went through the same situation, you have 59 topics1.

One of the two users mentioned in this thread, I bring it up because they already mentioned it but it could be anyone else, he has 401 topics started.

This guy started on September 10, 2020, if we compare it with you Date Registered: August 02, 2020, you have 19 more topics, then is it the rank?

I think it is necessary to encourage more topics and not restrict the intention regardless of the rank, the time, the important thing is the contribution intention.

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