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November 17, 2021, 09:25:33 AM
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Unfortunately after going after a billion number of combinations for 10 days neither were correct and it gave all possible passwords.However such passwords are in the form here below

2021-11-16 04:19:43 Possible Password ==>@@nameTwins@06JUVENTUSsurname6871<== in Decrypted Block ==>{ ("_u'3PIERKEt<==
Judging from this my friend told me that his password was never that long,can you please make a simple token list file with this number of characters as follows,(I told him we are bothering the forum members and he told me he is going to reward at least 0.01 Bitcoin for your help if he finds the password and he has a good chunk of Bitcoin as he believes it should have)

You can make the token file like this based on the number of passwords he used which are:

@@namesurname1991
namesurname@1991
Twins@1991
twins1991@@
Juventus@1991
Juventus@twins1991

These are some type of passwords he usually used.As you see max number of characters is 12 to 18.He used both capital and non capital letters in the beginning of the password.I know we are scratching the impossible here but just wanna give a last try.

In the example password of course I put name and surname for privacy reasons.

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November 17, 2021, 09:39:11 AM
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So you can add in the option below to the command you feed to btcrecover (i.e. not in the tokens file itself):
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--max-tokens 4

This will limit btcrecover to combining 4 of the 6 different lines in your tokens file, and therefore cut down on the number of valid possibilities dramatically.

I notice as well in the examples you have given that you have the @ symbol occasionally in the middle ("Juventus@1991" for example), and not at the beginning or the end as previously mentioned. If that's a possibility, then you'll want to change the 5th line of the tokens file from this:
Code:
^@ ^@@ @$ @@$

To this:
Code:
@ @@

I also note that the number after twins is 4 digits rather than the limit of 2 I gave in the original file, so again you'll want to change the third line from this:
Code:
Twins@%1,2d twins@%1,2d TWINS@%1,2d

To this:
Code:
Twins@%1,4d twins@%1,4d TWINS@%1,4d
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November 17, 2021, 10:37:41 AM
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Trying this new token file now and if it doesn't work after this I am afraid he has used something else as a password.It most probably take another week or so to try all possible combinations and I will let you know in the results after the scan.


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November 26, 2021, 12:35:55 PM
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Update and bump:

Unfortunately I believe we have just scratched the impossible here and there is not much hope left,can the recovery wallet services do something here knowing that the password is not what my friend thought it was?

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November 27, 2021, 12:13:10 AM
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Update and bump:

Unfortunately I believe we have just scratched the impossible here and there is not much hope left,can the recovery wallet services do something here knowing that the password is not what my friend thought it was?

If you've exhausted all your options, giving it a try is all you can do. Maybe the recovery service is going to be able to ask better questions as to what the password could consist of (a long shot), and they're going to have more than a single 1050 Ti.

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November 27, 2021, 11:36:30 AM
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To add on malevolent reply, make sure you research whatever company you intend to "contract" for this service. While I never used this kind of service, I always saw positive feedback regarding the service offered by Dave[1] - walletrecoveryservices.com[2] - and if you indeed have run out of options I would have him as a possible supplier for your service. He'll only charge you (20 %) if he manages to successful recover your BTC - at the current price it would be around $5,480 USD - otherwise you won't be charged anything:
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Our standard fee is 20% of the value of the wallet, only if we are successful. Zero otherwise

If your wallet is valued over $100K USD, then we offer a lower fee of 15% for an initial phase of tests.
(generally takes around a week).
If that fails, it indicates the password is more complex or uncommon. We will reach out to you to discuss reverting to our standard fee for further rounds of attempts.

[1]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130960
[2]https://www.walletrecoveryservices.com/

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November 27, 2021, 12:16:37 PM
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Unfortunately I believe we have just scratched the impossible here and there is not much hope left,can the recovery wallet services do something here knowing that the password is not what my friend thought it was?
Unless your friend can be more specific about what combination of things may or may not be in his password, probably not. There are a couple of examples you gave above (such as "Juventus@twins1991") which do not fit the answers to the questions he gave earlier (where he said he always uses "twins@ a number"). Since it seems he doesn't really know what order he might actually have used the tokens, I would remove all the rules regarding token placements and just run with the barebones, something looking like this:

Code:
Firstname firstname FIRSTNAME
Lastname lastname LASTNAME
Twins twins TWINS
Juventus juventus JUVENTUS
@ @@
%1,4d

Remember to use the --max-tokens argument if you think you need it. A wallet recovery service might be able to widen the search space somewhat, but if it is a somewhat different password to what he thinks then it is unlikely they will be successful.
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November 29, 2021, 08:20:30 AM
Last edit: December 09, 2021, 09:09:45 AM by swogerino
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Giving this one last try before contacting the wallet recovery services if my friends agrees to do so,I believe he will agree as I don't see any other alternative for him at the moment.He also gave me another option,the name of "Ditrin" maybe is in the password and I added it in the tokens file.I don't have any hopes based on past results but let's see.

Edit:Talked to Dave and agreed with his 20% so I send him the needed files and waiting news from him now.

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December 25, 2021, 07:01:06 AM
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Dave was able to find the missing password of this wallet of 2014 however it had not any money on it.The only address we found to have money is another one which has 0.1044 Bitcoin but most likely it is an Electrum or Exodus wallet.
Of course my friend does not have that wallet.dat file and may be he will not be able to find the 12 words seed phrase.Most likely it is game over for such wallets in such case ?

There is a really slim chance that he may find the 12 words seed phrase but most likely he will not.

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December 25, 2021, 01:23:33 PM
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Dave was able to find the missing password of this wallet of 2014 however it had not any money on it.
Out of curiosity, what format did the password take? Were you close with your own efforts?

The only address we found to have money is another one which has 0.1044 Bitcoin but most likely it is an Electrum or Exodus wallet.
Where did you find this address? As an imported address inside your blockchain.com wallet?

Of course my friend does not have that wallet.dat file and may be he will not be able to find the 12 words seed phrase.Most likely it is game over for such wallets in such case ?
With neither the wallet file nor the seed phrase, the coins are lost.
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Dave was able to find the missing password of this wallet of 2014 however it had not any money on it.
Out of curiosity, what format did the password take? Were you close with your own efforts?

The only address we found to have money is another one which has 0.1044 Bitcoin but most likely it is an Electrum or Exodus wallet.
Where did you find this address? As an imported address inside your blockchain.com wallet?

Of course my friend does not have that wallet.dat file and may be he will not be able to find the 12 words seed phrase.Most likely it is game over for such wallets in such case ?
With neither the wallet file nor the seed phrase, the coins are lost.

We found the address in his emails in 2014.

The password was not in the format I gave you it was twins1991(then some random characters that made sense to my friend,then surname followed by other characters then name of his cousins followed by other random characters) here is part of the password with X letter meaning another character

 twins1991xxxdxxxxx2012xxxxaxxhxxfor

No the address with the money my friend bought them at 2014,December 2014 through Ebay at that time and he thought only Blockchain.info to have as an wallet but I remember also telling him about a more secure wallet like Electrum.I tried to see that address in walletexplorer  webpage but it doesn't show to which wallet it belongs,it just tag them with different colors.


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December 25, 2021, 07:29:57 PM
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The password was not in the format I gave you
Well, glad he got to the bottom of it. Impressive that Dave managed to brute force all that, but I imagine your friend must at least have given him the name of the cousin and some other formatting information, since otherwise Dave was brute forcing 12+ random characters, which is approximately 80+ bits of entropy.

I tried to see that address in walletexplorer  webpage but it doesn't show to which wallet it belongs,it just tag them with different colors.
Walletexplorer tells you when an address is part of a wallet in terms of other addresses which are part of that wallet. It does not and can not tell you which client (Electrum, Exodus, etc) was used to create that address (and neither can any other service). From looking solely at historical blockchain data, you will never be able to tell what software was used to create an address (except maybe in some exceedingly rare cases when a transaction spending coins from that address has some very unique technical characteristics to it).
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December 25, 2021, 08:21:53 PM
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The password was not in the format I gave you
Well, glad he got to the bottom of it. Impressive that Dave managed to brute force all that, but I imagine your friend must at least have given him the name of the cousin and some other formatting information, since otherwise Dave was brute forcing 12+ random characters, which is approximately 80+ bits of entropy.

I tried to see that address in walletexplorer  webpage but it doesn't show to which wallet it belongs,it just tag them with different colors.
Walletexplorer tells you when an address is part of a wallet in terms of other addresses which are part of that wallet. It does not and can not tell you which client (Electrum, Exodus, etc) was used to create that address (and neither can any other service). From looking solely at historical blockchain data, you will never be able to tell what software was used to create an address (except maybe in some exceedingly rare cases when a transaction spending coins from that address has some very unique technical characteristics to it).

I gave him the information you gave me,just that tokens.txt list I created based on your advice and apparently Dave did a really good job at finding the password in less than three days but no we didn't gave him the name of the cousin,we only wrote the tokens.txt file as you told us with First Name, Last Name and all other characters so yes Dave has some amazing software and bruteforcing power.

Most likely my friend used Electrum and also most likely is game over because he doesn't have nor Electrum wallet.dat file nor the seed so as you say the coins are lost.I remember back at that time that we ran into Electrum after hearing some big exchange being hacked or something like that and that taught us the lesson to keep our coins not in third party wallets anymore.I guess Exodus was not that known at that time and maybe it didn't even exist I am not sure of it so at 99.99% is an Electrum wallet but unfortunately inaccessible.

This is what I gave him

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Firstname firstname FIRSTNAME
Lastname lastname LASTNAME
Twins twins TWINS
Juventus juventus JUVENTUS
@ @@
%1,4d

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