200 Congress People Have Been Treated with Ivermectin for COVID

[BADecker]

The horse dewormer version is cheaper.


Joe Rogan: "By the way, 200 Congress People Have Been Treated with Ivermectin for COVID"

Rogan invited CNN contributor Dr. Sanjay Gupta on his show and accused CNN of lying about Ivermectin by calling it a "horse de-wormer" when there is a human version to be used for legitimate circumstances. Gupta said he did not know why the network did it and did not question it. The video got over five million views in just 24 hours.

Last week, Rogan said that "Dr. Pierre Kory, who one of the doctors from the Frontline Critical Care Group that has been treating people, including by the way, 200 congresspeople have been treated with Ivermectin for COVID. Did you know that? Yeah. Google that!" Dr. Kory reportedly also prescribed monoclonal antibodies, prednisone, Z-pak, NAD, and vitamins, along with the ivermectin.

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[Quickseller]

This is according to Joe Rogan, and may or may not be true.

The opposition to Ivermectin is not about Ivermectin, nor is it about the vaccine. It is about control. The opposition to Ivermectin is about control. Democrats want to mandate (aka force) people into doing something they know they will receive pushback to, and force as many people to do what they don’t want to do as possible. This will lead to Democrats being able to get even more people to do what Democrats want them to do.

[o_e_l_e_o]

one of the doctors from the Frontline Critical Care Group

As with all of BADecker's sources, a pseudoscientific scam organization, founded by people with vested and financial interests in the bullshit they promote.

The opposition to Ivermectin is about control.

Lol. The opposition to ivermectin is that there is no evidence for it. Provide some good quality randomized double blind control studies that show its efficacy, and I'll start prescribing it tomorrow. Even BADecker's scam ivermectin pushing site above states "these products have not been proven to be safe and effective by prospective, randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled studies". Throw on a disclaimer and you can outright lie and kill people for profit!

[Quickseller]

The opposition to Ivermectin is about control.

Lol. The opposition to ivermectin is that there is no evidence for it. Provide some good quality randomized double blind control studies that show its efficacy, and I'll start prescribing it tomorrow. Even BADecker's scam ivermectin pushing site above states "these products have not been proven to be safe and effective by prospective, randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled studies". Throw on a disclaimer and you can outright lie and kill people for profit!

It appears there are some studies that are ongoing regarding ivermectin currently.

There is opposition to using ivermectin even on an experimental, or compassionate use basis. There was similar fierce opposition to hydroxychloroquine even while studies were ongoing. The reason for this is that if there was an efficient treatment for covid, the lockdowns and other means of control under the guise of "protection" from covid could no longer be justified.

[o_e_l_e_o]

It appears there are some studies that are ongoing regarding ivermectin currently.

Correct. And if any of them return ground breaking results, then we will start using ivermectin. Notably, every good quality study thus far has not returned such results.

There was similar fierce opposition to hydroxychloroquine even while studies were ongoing.

And we had the same conversation about HCQ 18 months ago. Here is what I said then:

Yes, there are anecdotal reports, but there also anecdotal reports of it making no difference, and it carries a number of not-insignificant side effects, including affecting cardiac repolarization and glycemic control.

Now we have dozens of studies covering tens of thousands of patients, the evidence shows the HCQ does not reduce mortality, does not reduce need for ventilation, but does cause a significant number of side effects.

So my point I quoted still stands. The opposition is, and has always been, because we don't want to randomly experiment on critically unwell patients with drugs which could make them worse or kill them.

[Quickseller]

I think wanting to wait for a study to confirm a drug is efficient in treating covid is reasonable. Although if potential side effects are minimal, and the risk of taking the drug is low, there is an argument to allow people to take the drug (ivermectin today, or HCQ mid last year) as long as patients understand the risks, and studies are ongoing.

The opposition to ivermectin today is not that there needs to be a study confirming that ivermectin is effective against covid. When studies on HCQ were ongoing, many on the left were actively hoping that HCQ would not show to be effective, as is the case for ivermectin today. 

[o_e_l_e_o]

Although if potential side effects are minimal, and the risk of taking the drug is low, there is an argument to allow people to take the drug (ivermectin today, or HCQ mid last year) as long as patients understand the risks, and studies are ongoing.

Both HCQ and ivermectin have led to deaths due to their side effects, so you cannot say side effects are "minimal" or that risk is "low".

The opposition to ivermectin today is not that there needs to be a study confirming that ivermectin is effective against covid.

From a medical point of view, that is exactly what the opposition is. I don't care what any politician has to say on the matter. Show me the evidence.

[BADecker]

Although if potential side effects are minimal, and the risk of taking the drug is low, there is an argument to allow people to take the drug (ivermectin today, or HCQ mid last year) as long as patients understand the risks, and studies are ongoing.

Both HCQ and ivermectin have led to deaths due to their side effects, so you cannot say side effects are "minimal" or that risk is "low".

The opposition to ivermectin today is not that there needs to be a study confirming that ivermectin is effective against covid.

From a medical point of view, that is exactly what the opposition is. I don't care what any politician has to say on the matter. Show me the evidence.

Normally I wouldn't agree with you. But in this case I am rather inclined. I mean, HCQ approved by the FDA for something like 70 years as possibly the safest drug in existence. And Ivermectin about 40 years the same by the FDA.

Today we are finding that the Covid vaccines are killing millions, and introducing Covid way more than nature without the vaxxes. You can search the Net. Even the media is showing some of this, because they don't know where to stop advertising the vaccines is going to destroy their ratings. But all the FDA is doing is approving more and more use of the vaxxes to wider and wider demographic circles.

So, you can easily see that since the FDA approved HCQ and Ivermectin as a couple of the safest, there's probably a long path of death and covered-up side-effects for both of them... covered up by Big Pharma, and their dummy agency, the FDA. And the like for all kinds of other drugs and vaxxes, as well... just like they are doing with Covid and its vaxxes.

[tvbcof]

True and recent experience with Ivermectin:

Almost everyone I know and know of in my neighborhood of my city in a certain English speaking SE Asian country has been sick, and every story is about the same.  Mild cold-like symptoms followed by or in proximity to a fairly unpleasant flu-like thing.  I've had 'it' and it really seemed like two separate things and it is highly unusual for me to get sick with two different anything back-to-back.

In my case, the 'cold' was so mild I barely noticed it.  Just a little notice of a sore throat when I first woke up or whatever.  That was about a week, and I suspect that it was the dreaded 'omicron'.  Then Sunday I got something which was quite like I normally experience the flu.  And it was pretty bad, but since I've not had influenza for a number of years I expected it.  Thankfully I had no trouble sleeping and was sound asleep around 16 hours of 24.  Normally a flu makes me feel like shit big-time for either one day or two.  Flu never impacts my lungs and this was no exception.  No lose of taste or smell.  On day 4 of still feeling pretty darn bad, I got fed up and took a single dose of Ivermectin.

Result:  Within 6 hours of ingesting the Ivermectin the thing was gone, and I mean GONE.  Like nothing had ever happened.  I don't feel hungry when I'm sick so I hadn't eaten for 4 days or so and lost a bit of weight due to it, but no other notice of having even been sick.  Where I could barely move due to aches the day before, there was nothing.  Jumped right out of bed after sleeping with no notice whatsoever.

This whole two years there has been a lot of 'weird shit' going on sickness-wise that I cannot put my finger on.  Hopefully they are not trial-ing 'self-spreading vaccines' or whatever.  One of the dis-advantage of living in the 'developing world' is that it is the kind of place where Western pharma and telecom corporations try out their new goodies.  Permission to do so is relatively straightforward to obtain, there are plenty of 'NGO's on-the-ground and happy to do their part in implementation, monitoring is non-existant as near as I can tell, the media is even more owned and compliant than it is in the West, and the plebs are not important enough to even bother notifying.

Anyway, in my sample-size of one, my results with Ivermectin have been shocking to say the least.

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Update:  After several days of feeling great, I woke up this afternoon feeling a very slightly ill again, and with noticeable joint pain.  Also a bit of phlem in my upper airway.  So, I downed another batch of Ivermectin a few hours ago.  Slight improvements, particularly in my upper airway (which was not an issue even when I was quite sick), but so slight that I cannot tell if it means anything at all.  I don't feel as 'fantastic' as I did yesterday when I made this report.

I've been logging RF power level readings with my TES-593 since 5G is supposed to be kicking up in some parts of the world at least, but don't have enough data yet to make any useful observations.  In peak mode I see power density spikes between 1 and 2 W/m^2, and I've seen them off and on for well over a year.  I've recently switched over to logging AVE peaks instead which gives me a better picture of day to day changes blocks of days where higher power levels are observed which would be what I would expect of burn-in testing and the like.

[Cnut237]

In my case, the 'cold' was so mild I barely noticed it.  Just a little notice of a sore throat when I first woke up or whatever.  That was about a week, and I suspect that it was the dreaded 'omicron'.  Then Sunday I got something which was quite like I normally experience the flu.  And it was pretty bad, but since I've not had influenza for a number of years I expected it.  Thankfully I had no trouble sleeping and was sound asleep around 16 hours of 24.  Normally a flu makes me feel like shit big-time for either one day or two.  Flu never impacts my lungs and this was no exception.  No lose of taste or smell.

Sounds like Omicron, yes. Data suggest it's less likely to invade your lungs than other variants, and less likely to cause loss of taste/smell.
You say "dreaded 'omicron'", but it's widely accepted that symptoms are on average considerably less severe than with other variants. The main concern with Omicron is that it is so transmissible, which means that although the chances of severe infection requiring hospitalisation are smaller in percentage terms, the fact remains that if many more people are infected, that small percentage could still overwhelm hospitals, and lead to many deaths.

If your symptoms were 'pretty bad', then as I don't know your age or general health, these could be a factor. Another one could be if you haven't been vaccinated (I presume you haven't been). I know a lot of people who've had Omicron (tested positive) over the last few weeks, and all had either very mild or no symptoms - but these people have all been triple-jabbed.

[tvbcof]

In my case, the 'cold' was so mild I barely noticed it.  Just a little notice of a sore throat when I first woke up or whatever.  That was about a week, and I suspect that it was the dreaded 'omicron'.  Then Sunday I got something which was quite like I normally experience the flu.  And it was pretty bad, but since I've not had influenza for a number of years I expected it.  Thankfully I had no trouble sleeping and was sound asleep around 16 hours of 24.  Normally a flu makes me feel like shit big-time for either one day or two.  Flu never impacts my lungs and this was no exception.  No lose of taste or smell.

Sounds like Omicron, yes.

I'm sure it does sound that way to you, Doc, but I'm guessing pretty much any thing would.  The 'cold' element sounds like 'omicron' for the simple reason that such a high percentage of the population got it so close to one another in timing.  Meaning, exquisite transmissibility...or unusually distribution mechanisms...

If your symptoms were 'pretty bad', then as I don't know your age or general health, these could be a factor.

The 'pretty bad' was the flu-like event, and 'pretty bad' was relative to how influenza normally impacts me.  The gauge would be for the 'general malaise' reading.

The more years it has been since the last time an influenza 'took', the higher the general malaise level will be.  What's unique is that the higher the general malaise level is, the shorter the duration normally.  In this case it was higher on the scale, but was lasting longer which is why I popped some Ivermectin.

I don't doubt that one or both of these things were 'omicron', but that does not translate in my mind as being necessarily a SARS-cov-2 coronavirus variant.  'Omicron' could just as easily be some sort of aerosolized and/or self-spreading 'vaccine' program.

Don't waste your time finding some 'Forbes' or 'CDC' article explaining 'the science'.  For one, I've already heard it, and for two, what compulsive liars obviously pushing a script mean nothing to me.