War will give reason to make different economics blocks east/west

[Fullbear2222]

War Will give reasons to create different economic blocks.
But west also need products of East so they will buy it anyways.
But war most likely is the tighting reason for china and russia the stronger hand for their own citizens.
China and others brics can go far as to start control internet and stop communication with west or people in the east some people can choose the side west or East.
Like the blackrock said it's a end of globalisation.
So countries like china Will be more strong over their people so younger ones don't see how west lives no access to info older ones knows all ready so now there is plan to isolate parents from kids so the goverment can teach their kids things how to be productive.
It's not secret that west has a lot money and have bought from china a lot things and china have now a lot dollars.
Let's be focus on that matter even world richest ones don't care about numbers of money they know that will have that numbers anyways ...what the focus is that productions and productivity so greatest economical value is work but nobody don't want to do that so countries like china Will place strict rules make slaves working and west is buying
My point is that more and more wealthy people will be in west who all need a lot products it means east must work harder that's the reality and next step will be to divide people so some people will not have even ideas how the rest of the world lives and that will create very strong work culture and west can keep printing more paper.
We the Western people are slaves also but not work slaves we are just debt slaves of debt what will be never paid we pay just something and take new debt the old debt not paid but still our life don't change much inflation goes up we just borrow more to live because money not problem because it's not valueble as work we just borrow money to not working
Remember west only buying nothing else

[philipma1957]

Well if you believe all that you say why live. It would be a more hellish world than we have now.

BTW the world is pretty hellish as it is.

[Bulltard]

Well if you believe all that

he doesn't believe anything, he's just spamming shit.
look at all the threads this dude creates: unreadable walls of texts that no one comprehends

[Fullbear2222]

Well if you believe all that

he doesn't believe anything, he's just spamming shit.
look at all the threads this dude creates: unreadable walls of texts that no one comprehends

You are newbie here and stop spam here
Unreadble...well learn emglish dude we use emglish here

[WillyAp]

We, the Western people are slaves also but not work slaves we are just debt slaves of debt what will be never (be) paid. We just pay something and take on new debt, the old debt is unpaid but still our life doesn't change much, inflation goes up. We just borrow more to live because money (is) not a problem because it's not valuable as work.  We just borrow money (so there is no need) to work.

We refer to all the people who indebted themselves voluntarily.
I don't take credits except if there is a business venture with several business partners.
You have choices. You are not a sheep,
You can choose to have debt and become a sheep, that's up to you.

[GbitG]

Hmm it's don't really make a lot of sense, honestly. First, you say that the east makes its people work hard so that they can become productive and create a lot of stuff that they can sell, and the west buys those products from the east because they need them, and then you say that the west is the one that will print more paper, what does that mean? By printing, do you mean literal printing or do you mean earning money? I'm confused.

If you mean they are printing more money to buy more products and that is making their currencies lose value over time then you are right. Any country that keeps printing more money will keep going deeper in inflation and finally reach hyperinflation if they can't control it at the end.

[electronicash]

you don't know how the orientals live, do you?
children even live with their parents even when they are married already. just look at the culture of India where 3-4 generations still live in a compound because of family ties. you could say they enslave their own in the guise of respecting the elders but seems right for us since it's the same as helping each other. when the kids grow responsibly, their kids serve them as well.

when a country is in debt trouble. colonization starts to make sense in their minds whether in Eastern or Western countries. it's the reason why in ancient times slavery was common.

[WillyAp]

If you mean they are printing more money to buy more products and that is making their currencies lose value over time then you are right. Any country that keeps printing more money will keep going deeper in inflation and finally reach hyperinflation if they can't control it at the end.

Every country needs to print money as a % is lost, destroyed, burned, painted each year.
Its obvious that at the occasion they print more. But in case of the US, the $ is currency to 11 countries.

[btc78]

I think that this is all an exaggeration or at least for now.

I can see tensions growing between different countries but some countries from the east have partnered up with some countries from the west. I do not know if that is good or bad as you know no matter what happens or no matter what conflict arises, they will be both helping each other.

The growing tensions could lead to restrictions and increase of smuggling and other illegal things if the government is too strict.

[Ozero]

I think that this is all an exaggeration or at least for now.

I can see tensions growing between different countries but some countries from the east have partnered up with some countries from the west. I do not know if that is good or bad as you know no matter what happens or no matter what conflict arises, they will be both helping each other.

Russia's war against Ukraine has indeed led to a regrouping and aggravation of the situation between various blocs of states. First of all, these are countries that supply weapons to Russia - Iran, North Korea and partly China, and on the other hand - more than 50 countries that support the defense of Ukraine from Russian aggression. The outcome of this war will determine what the format of global security in the world will be in the future.

However, we can say with confidence that Russia will come out of this war weakened, and many nations and nationalities that are now being held within Russia by force will certainly take advantage of this, and we will soon, with a high degree of probability, be able to observe how Russia will disintegrate into many separate republics.

[kryptqnick]

I can't say I agree with everything the op is saying, but I agree that the tensions are rising, particularly between countries that support democracy and those that are more autocratic. It's not simply East vs West, and people have been talking more and more about the Global South and North, too.
And while China has deep economic ties with Western countries, those ties don't translate into political improvements and particularly into human rights improvements. But I believe we need to look for common ground, at least a minimum common basis upon which we can agree.

[Die_empty]

I think that this is all an exaggeration or at least for now.

I can see tensions growing between different countries but some countries from the east have partnered up with some countries from the west. I do not know if that is good or bad as you know no matter what happens or no matter what conflict arises, they will be both helping each other.

Russia's war against Ukraine has indeed led to a regrouping and aggravation of the situation between various blocs of states. First of all, these are countries that supply weapons to Russia - Iran, North Korea and partly China, and on the other hand - more than 50 countries that support the defense of Ukraine from Russian aggression. The outcome of this war will determine what the format of global security in the world will be in the future.

Your comment is very reasonable and it gave me a new perspective about how the world will be in the next few years. The war in Ukraine has really divided the world into two blocks, and we might end up seeing the manifestation of these divisions in the future. Nations like South Africa that is known as pro-west have decided to support Russia. 

But I want to add that the war between Israel and Hamas is gradually shaking international alliances. We are seeing countries like Spain, Ireland, and Norway recognizing Palestine's statehood regardless of the anti-statehood position of some Western world powers.

However, we can say with confidence that Russia will come out of this war weakened, and many nations and nationalities that are now being held within Russia by force will certainly take advantage of this, and we will soon, with a high degree of probability, be able to observe how Russia will disintegrate into many separate republics.

I am afraid I don't share the same thought that Russia will become weaker after this war. This war has made the Russian state advance its military technologically. The Russian state start the production of many sophisticated weapons through the assistance of their allies. Economically the country is not also doing badly. So I don't know where the weakness will come except Putin is removed as president.

[bittraffic]

War Will give reasons to create different economic blocks.
But west also need products of East so they will buy it anyways.
But war most likely is the tighting reason for china and russia the stronger hand for their own citizens.
China and others brics can go far as to start control internet and stop communication with west or people in the east some people can choose the side west or East.
Like the blackrock said it's a end of globalisation.
So countries like china Will be more strong over their people so younger ones don't see how west lives no access to info older ones knows all ready so now there is plan to isolate parents from kids so the goverment can teach their kids things how to be productive.
It's not secret that west has a lot money and have bought from china a lot things and china have now a lot dollars.
Let's be focus on that matter even world richest ones don't care about numbers of money they know that will have that numbers anyways ...what the focus is that productions and productivity so greatest economical value is work but nobody don't want to do that so countries like china Will place strict rules make slaves working and west is buying
My point is that more and more wealthy people will be in west who all need a lot products it means east must work harder that's the reality and next step will be to divide people so some people will not have even ideas how the rest of the world lives and that will create very strong work culture and west can keep printing more paper.
We the Western people are slaves also but not work slaves we are just debt slaves of debt what will be never paid we pay just something and take new debt the old debt not paid but still our life don't change much inflation goes up we just borrow more to live because money not problem because it's not valueble as work we just borrow money to not working
Remember west only buying nothing else

It takes a man who has been to both sides to understand this. Especially if the way of life is at risk and he is at a crossroads. The man would rather burn the world to ashes if he is not in charge of the world.

Well, when a country is not willing to pay thier debt, they'd rather want the country they took a loan from to be gone. That's basically how they would want things to happen but if that's not happening I guess they would have to take action like War. But before the war, there will be a lot of turmoil. Its happening already.

[God bless u]

War Will give reasons to create different economic blocks.
But west also need products of East so they will buy it anyways.
But war most likely is the tighting reason for china and russia the stronger hand for their own citizens.
China and others brics can go far as to start control internet and stop communication with west or people in the east some people can choose the side west or East.
Like the blackrock said it's a end of globalisation.
So countries like china Will be more strong over their people so younger ones don't see how west lives no access to info older ones knows all ready so now there is plan to isolate parents from kids so the goverment can teach their kids things how to be productive.
It's not secret that west has a lot money and have bought from china a lot things and china have now a lot dollars.
Let's be focus on that matter even world richest ones don't care about numbers of money they know that will have that numbers anyways ...what the focus is that productions and productivity so greatest economical value is work but nobody don't want to do that so countries like china Will place strict rules make slaves working and west is buying
My point is that more and more wealthy people will be in west who all need a lot products it means east must work harder that's the reality and next step will be to divide people so some people will not have even ideas how the rest of the world lives and that will create very strong work culture and west can keep printing more paper.
We the Western people are slaves also but not work slaves we are just debt slaves of debt what will be never paid we pay just something and take new debt the old debt not paid but still our life don't change much inflation goes up we just borrow more to live because money not problem because it's not valueble as work we just borrow money to not working
Remember west only buying nothing else

I think thats not the right statement that war will give rise to blocks but it should be that even the cold war have risen some blocks that can be seen clearly and those who have not seen it I don't think they have the eyes to see the future of the world.

China and Russia are the two biggest super powers now. America is only trying to resist because a lion even after brusies fight a little. Israel have destroyed America in terms of politics and now it's the end.

[Fortify]

War Will give reasons to create different economic blocks.
But west also need products of East so they will buy it anyways.
But war most likely is the tighting reason for china and russia the stronger hand for their own citizens.
China and others brics can go far as to start control internet and stop communication with west or people in the east some people can choose the side west or East.
Like the blackrock said it's a end of globalisation.
So countries like china Will be more strong over their people so younger ones don't see how west lives no access to info older ones knows all ready so now there is plan to isolate parents from kids so the goverment can teach their kids things how to be productive.
It's not secret that west has a lot money and have bought from china a lot things and china have now a lot dollars.
Let's be focus on that matter even world richest ones don't care about numbers of money they know that will have that numbers anyways ...what the focus is that productions and productivity so greatest economical value is work but nobody don't want to do that so countries like china Will place strict rules make slaves working and west is buying
My point is that more and more wealthy people will be in west who all need a lot products it means east must work harder that's the reality and next step will be to divide people so some people will not have even ideas how the rest of the world lives and that will create very strong work culture and west can keep printing more paper.
We the Western people are slaves also but not work slaves we are just debt slaves of debt what will be never paid we pay just something and take new debt the old debt not paid but still our life don't change much inflation goes up we just borrow more to live because money not problem because it's not valueble as work we just borrow money to not working
Remember west only buying nothing else

These blocs already existed but Putin isn't going to last much longer. He's becoming an old and frail man who will eventually fall like all the other dictators before him. The Ukraine war is a last desperate attempt to prove that Russia could still bully other countries into submission but it is failing miserably. China can see how this will end and is just trying to milk Russia for every economic advantage it can get - while also selling them goods to keep this war going. Globalization is actually a great thing because it helps to stop the massive global wars that we saw in the past. China is currently in a rather precarious position and the leadership does not want to knock their economy by rocking the boat too much.

[pooya87]

War Will give reasons to create different economic blocks.

If by "war" you mean armed conflict then I have to tell you that it is only the last and smallest reason for the multipolar world. The first and the most significant reason is that for a very short time (20 to 30 years) the world has been a unipolar world and this is the first in human history as far as I can tell.

The problem was that this only power pole (ie. USA) abused the hell out of all its powers as much as they could! They also created a lot of monopolies in the world that turned it into a dictatorship as well.
That's what forced the world to change that [dis]order and establish a New World Order where once again we have a multipolar world with multiple power blocs (not just economic blocs).

[bluebit25]

I don't understand the real message the OP is creating in this space, when actually these user topics are sort of picked up from many different sources and then created a mess.

Anyway, I will express that the view on economic blocs, the world situation is becoming complicated with the formation of separate economic blocs and the potential consequences and it is important to be aware understand these trends and their impact on our lives. I haven't been able to travel to and experience too many cultures in some countries, but through friends and world news, I also feel that perhaps OP is misunderstanding some things that work in the East, if you study the economic history from the first world war to the present to get a feel for what they have achieved, as well as look back at the western extreme where cultures show signs of slowing down or recession.

[doomloop]

It takes a man who has been to both sides to understand this. Especially if the way of life is at risk and he is at a crossroads. The man would rather burn the world to ashes if he is not in charge of the world.

Well, when a country is not willing to pay thier debt, they'd rather want the country they took a loan from to be gone. That's basically how they would want things to happen but if that's not happening I guess they would have to take action like War. But before the war, there will be a lot of turmoil. Its happening already.

That is what others are saying that the OP lacks in knowledge about this but others are suggesting that he must do a proper research first. I guess that still works fine? Although indeed that we can feel and express it better if we experience it ourselves for real.

All of us can have a risky situation and then there are times that we will need to choose a path but it's hard to decide. Some are like that crazy or greedy and they think they can always get what they want but they are wrong. They are only making their life more miserable when they do what they are planning. That's also crazy if you owe someone but at the same time you are the ones who are more angry at them but it happens even locally.