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December 21, 2021, 07:04:35 AM
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Sir let me clarify few things for you ..

I just posted a question which I feel should be asked and take an opinion about how much are newbies aware
Secondly about coinbaazar ref code it’s completely your wish I don’t earn as I am an executive working for the organisation
Thirdly coinbaazar is representing in bitcoin 22 Miami conference .. This is one of general questions which newbies have and
Last but not the least … no one is bound to participate in every bitcoin forum posting .. you are free to step out or simply participate and share your inputs which may help others who are entering in crypto space …

OP is now going next level trolling after he first tried to earn few dollars from his coinbaazar ref code, and offering ''free'' bitcoin for some sign up.
You can't really take seriously someone who claims that he is official representative of some talkoncrypto company, if he is asking people questions about Bitcoin ''server''.  Roll Eyes
I know I had previous conversation with him in forum, but he is now officially going to my ignore list, not worth wasting time with him anymore.


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December 21, 2021, 11:39:29 AM
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The best answer is to say, everyone. Bitcoin is decentralized and it needs a server located somewhere to be managed. If you want to know about it you should search a little about decentralized networks, to be short bitcoin servers are divided all over the world and we can these nodes. These nodes have bitcoin projects uploaded on themselves and they are doing work for keeping the network up. Actually, this feature and being decentralized is one good reason for many bitcoin holders to trust it because even if a node goes down there are still many other nodes and even if whole nodes of a country go down there are still other nodes in other countries.

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December 21, 2021, 11:54:40 AM
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Just a lil observation, the bitcoin code must be on some server and node is running without any stop, does bitcoin server been managed by some one … or is it that Satoshi Nakamoto put the code on server and paid the company for say 50 years or something … is it possible .. moreover if server goes down who restarts it …and if the code is committed on GitHub .. is it possible that apart from him .. does anyone else have passwords too … for managing it
without getting involved how can a code can run in server … there are few points … who pays for server .. who manages space … who manages the outage … who manages the future securities and server updates …


It's all clearly explained in the conclusion of the whitepaper: (emphasis mine)

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We have proposed a system for electronic transactions without relying on trust. We started with
the usual framework of coins made from digital signatures, which provides strong control of
ownership, but is incomplete without a way to prevent double-spending. To solve this, we
proposed a peer-to-peer network using proof-of-work to record a public history of transactions
that quickly becomes computationally impractical for an attacker to change if honest nodes
control a majority of CPU power. The network is robust in its unstructured simplicity. Nodes
work all at once with little coordination. They do not need to be identified, since messages are
not routed to any particular place and only need to be delivered on a best effort basis. Nodes can
leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the proof-of-work chain as proof of what
happened while they were gone
. They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of
valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on
them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism


That basically answers all your questions.

In particular, Bitcoin doesn't have a central server, it's all running in independent nodes. Each node can join or leave at any time, and the hardware required to do so comes from the users of the system. There are currently about 50 thousand nodes running Bitcoin. An update to the code needs to be accepted by the majority of the nodes through the consensus mechanism.

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December 21, 2021, 01:45:12 PM
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I hope you can understand my question… Like any cryptocurrency there is always a code written and there is always a server involved where the code wil be put … it has nothing to do with peer to peer … I am asking on the code level …because when a code is written and deployed it cannot run on their own … it must have been checked continuously on regular basis as the server can go down … and it generally cannot restart on its own during the outage … so it may be possible that someone is managing bitcoin server ..

This question redirects the finger to Satoshi Nakamoto … or the person who is looking the server and also where the code was first put … the email associated and details that were put during the implementing of bitcoin code ..

(emphasis mine)

In the case of the Bitcoin software (that you can download from bitcoin.org), the software simultaneously acts as a client AND a server.

The server mode is optional - it can be toggled with the -server switch. But when the server is off, the Bitcoin software can only function as a client making RPC calls to other bitcoin server, that are running on other people's computers.

The bitcoin software keeps a list of known IP addresses of other people's bitcoin servers inside a text file.

It is able to fetch more IP addresses by executing a query, in client mode, to one of the other servers it knows about.

There is also a hard-coded list of about 10 IP addresses which are automatically added at start up - those nodes are generally always online because they are ran by bitcoin maintainers. Their only use is to allow the software to fetch THEIR lists of known bitcoin IP addresses.

That is why you never see the Bitcoin network crashing because someone shut down their PC - the server software is running on literally hundreds of people's PCs; most of whom do not even know each other.

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December 21, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
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Sir , you are free to do so … anyways instead of this it would be better if u would thought of something nice and utilise ur time in something productive, apart from putting in ignore list .. anyways I respect your decision .. have. A good day

Dude, you sound like you are talking to someone on whatsapp after they friend-zoned you..

Seriously though, If you aren't going to show an actual analytical mind and respond on the stuff that the people are telling you on this thread, nobody is ever going to take you seriously. Like WTF? Just ignore the bitching and think about the shit you've been saying about "Server" and "This directs a finger to Satoshi".

It is natural to be out of one's depth in crypto if you aren't serious about learning or discussing and are just doing it for the sake of it. It inevitably shows after a certain time. Even then, such questions definitely open up the discussion for other newbies but it is of little use if you do not try to wrap your head around it by doing some actual thinking.

And for god's sake, stop with the "Sir this, Sir that".

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December 27, 2021, 11:06:39 AM
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Okay, let me respond one by one ..

First thing First, I am not using Dude or Bro, as such i am not friends with someone and if not you, others may get offended..

Secondly, lets just stick to point of the code being onto a server, with my little knowledge, there's no rocket science in understanding that just by simply writing the code and putting it on Github will not make the process working , and if we download the bitcoin core client for the first time, it may not be of any use unless the code is on any server to respond to the request or call it mining or anything else related to bitcoin node...So simply  think it that way, any other coin which have been there after bitcoin , say BCH or LTC , they all came the same way... there's no difference in working of those coins.. its just a simple math these coins were built after bitcoin, but code should have been on some server to start the process...



Sir , you are free to do so … anyways instead of this it would be better if u would thought of something nice and utilise ur time in something productive, apart from putting in ignore list .. anyways I respect your decision .. have. A good day

Dude, you sound like you are talking to someone on whatsapp after they friend-zoned you..

Seriously though, If you aren't going to show an actual analytical mind and respond on the stuff that the people are telling you on this thread, nobody is ever going to take you seriously. Like WTF? Just ignore the bitching and think about the shit you've been saying about "Server" and "This directs a finger to Satoshi".

It is natural to be out of one's depth in crypto if you aren't serious about learning or discussing and are just doing it for the sake of it. It inevitably shows after a certain time. Even then, such questions definitely open up the discussion for other newbies but it is of little use if you do not try to wrap your head around it by doing some actual thinking.

And for god's sake, stop with the "Sir this, Sir that".


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December 27, 2021, 11:28:08 PM
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Okay, let me respond one by one ..

First thing First, I am not using Dude or Bro, as such i am not friends with someone and if not you, others may get offended..

Why would anyone be offended if you addressed someone with "bro" or "dude"? It's a cultural thing. According to that logic, the same can be said for "sir" as well.

Secondly, lets just stick to point of the code being onto a server, with my little knowledge, there's no rocket science in understanding that just by simply writing the code and putting it on Github will not make the process working , and if we download the bitcoin core client for the first time, it may not be of any use unless the code is on any server to respond to the request or call it mining or anything else related to bitcoin node...

The peer-to-peer network does not have dedicated servers or clients. All nodes (clients) are treated equally and can act as a client or a server at any instance.

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April 06, 2022, 09:07:47 PM
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This is a rhetorical question that has no answer. This question can only be answered by you. Bitcoin is a decentralized Currency in which nobody own or control it. If Bitcoin server was controlling by someone the Governments in the international level have influence the person, that is bribed the person control it to favour themselves or if the person disagreed with them. They would have killed the person and replaced him with someone that would work for them.
Decentralization of Bitcoin means nobody has the power to control the system and everybody has the power to control it from their end. You control yours and I control mine. Powers are share to everyone to control your Bitcoin. That is why when you lost your key nobody can retrieve it for you because no particular person control the server.



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April 06, 2022, 09:27:11 PM
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nobody wants it shutdown after todays unauthorized crash, therefor it will be shutdown
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April 14, 2022, 05:13:02 AM
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Bitcoin is different in that sense that it doesn’t have a central authority. Instead, Bitcoin relies on a network of nodes, miners, exchanges and wallets to remain secure. The majority of these players are stakeholders in Bitcoin, meaning they have vested interests in the currency.
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April 16, 2022, 04:09:30 PM
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Bitcoin is managed by its traders and users. There is no any person or company behind it. In 2009 a software which name's  satoshi nakamoto  was released.

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