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Author Topic: How to end dependence on russian gas? Heat pumps, electric heaters, alt fuels?  (Read 181 times)
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April 12, 2022, 03:58:08 PM
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But they can't implement everything all of sudden and light up the whole nation right? Its a long term process as far as I know and even countries recognized that and mentioned they will become completely eco-friendly and uses green energy as an alternative to non renewable energy comes from oil.









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April 12, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
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It's really the issue of energy that must be solved. All those pumps and heaters would still require electricity. And it don't seem they have anything good in the line. I watched that Netherlands has delayed shutting down its gas pumps because of the war but even with that and the other sources, western Europe isn't exactly blessed with gas and oil.

They can go back to coal but I don't know if that's enough (plus it'll be hypocritical after they told the rest of the world to stop using it). Maybe more nuclear?
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April 12, 2022, 08:10:52 PM
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With a great plan this could be future.
A good plan, as reliable as a Swiss watch. Too bad it only works in green fantasies. Windmills, solar panels, tides - these sources of energy are too volatile, a good dessert, but not a main course. We need something more stable generating energy so that we can seriously rely on it. Of the environmentally friendly and carbon-neutral, this is the energy of a flowing river or the energy of the internal heat of the earth, and with some reservations, nuclear energy.

It's all just talk. If it were possible to do this, the countries would not be dependent on Russia. There are many sources of energy. But natural gas is the most convenient and cheapest. Mankind will have to live for many years to invent a new convenient way. Now this is impossible. Everything ingenious is simple. I am convinced that humanity will find new energy sources, but not now. I don’t understand why sanctions are needed if many countries suffer from them. It's like we're trying to reinvent the wheel.

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April 12, 2022, 08:17:35 PM
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With a great plan this could be future.
A good plan, as reliable as a Swiss watch. Too bad it only works in green fantasies. Windmills, solar panels, tides - these sources of energy are too volatile, a good dessert, but not a main course. We need something more stable generating energy so that we can seriously rely on it. Of the environmentally friendly and carbon-neutral, this is the energy of a flowing river or the energy of the internal heat of the earth, and with some reservations, nuclear energy.

It's all just talk. If it were possible to do this, the countries would not be dependent on Russia. There are many sources of energy. But natural gas is the most convenient and cheapest. Mankind will have to live for many years to invent a new convenient way. Now this is impossible. Everything ingenious is simple. I am convinced that humanity will find new energy sources, but not now. I don’t understand why sanctions are needed if many countries suffer from them. It's like we're trying to reinvent the wheel.

I don't think there's a need to invent new energy resources. Why not optimize what has been here for decades already like the nuclear energy. Also, tap all the possible renewable energy sources. It may take time to build but they need to start somewhere if they do want to stop getting gas from Russia. They have so many scientists, they can come up with something if they will dedicate their time and resources to find one. No need to re-invent the wheel. All the possible energy sources has been studied already.
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April 13, 2022, 02:53:26 AM
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All of Europe has long wanted to abandon Russian gas, so as not to be dependent on it. I think it will happen, but it takes time, at least to wait two winters. The nationalization of Gazprom's subsidiary, Gazprom Germania GmbH, will greatly help. The tanks of this company can be filled with gas supplied in the off-season from other countries in order to calmly survive the winter.
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April 13, 2022, 06:35:29 AM
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All of Europe has long wanted to abandon Russian gas, so as not to be dependent on it. I think it will happen, but it takes time, at least to wait two winters. The nationalization of Gazprom's subsidiary, Gazprom Germania GmbH, will greatly help. The tanks of this company can be filled with gas supplied in the off-season from other countries in order to calmly survive the winter.

They really didn't expect it would bite back to them. If they planned to, they would have seen it coming which they have an alternative for heat during winter.

What they have plan was for Russia to stop drilling oil which is why they hype Greta Thunberg a lot for Climate Change. EU and US had actually been committed to this climate change but where do they get electricity?  Obviously electricity still comes from Uranium, Coal and fossil fuel which anyone could actually figure, they are fooling themselves thinking Putin will actually stop digging oil because they say so.

It backfires and as matter of fact, Putin is now accused that he is conspiring with the Climate change movement where he funded so that US and EU will start using green energy all for Climate change.


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