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May 15, 2022, 03:52:04 PM
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We all know and use the concept of "Whale".  Smiley
However, after all, the whale is the largest animal in the world that has no enemies and peacefully swims in the ocean. And Whale doesn't eat other fish, it eats one plankton.
A whale in the ocean is completely different from a whale in cryptocurrencies or in general in the financial sector. By calling these owners of huge amounts of money whales, we are making an unforgivable mistake. Because a whale in wildlife in its way of life does not at all correspond to a whale in finance.

I hope that this post of mine is read by real fans of cryptocurrencies.  Smiley
And we all have a bad attitude towards those whom everyone calls whales. Because there is still no benefit from them for real and not too rich owners of cryptocurrencies, but there can be harm. For example, when they arrange pumps of some coins. And we can lose some of our money in the process.  Sad
So, in order not to disgrace the majestic animals - whales in the ocean, it is proposed to call whales in cryptocurrencies the word "Hwale".
And treat "Hwale" with a joke and not like real whales.
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We all remember this comic story with the word "HODL" very well.
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May 15, 2022, 06:15:16 PM
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We all know and use the concept of "Whale".  Smiley
However, after all, the whale is the largest animal in the world that has no enemies and peacefully swims in the ocean. And Whale doesn't eat other fish, it eats one plankton.
A whale in the ocean is completely different from a whale in cryptocurrencies or in general in the financial sector. By calling these owners of huge amounts of money whales, we are making an unforgivable mistake. Because a whale in wildlife in its way of life does not at all correspond to a whale in finance.

this is not the normal way to try to convince people to meme up a new buzzword.
also your assumptions are innaccurate..

if we imaging sats as plankton.
both fish and whales compete to both eat plankton but they dont eat each other.

so the competition comparison applies. limited plankton and whales grab a heck of alot more of it than a fish

whales in ocean and in crypto dont rush around darting around fighting for it. they just lazily bathe in their own time with an open mouth and let the plankton come to them.
most of the whale in crypto are exchanges. they dont need to run around buying crypto fighting for their share. infact most of the coin comes to them via the fish. pushing the plankton into a whales mouth by trying to get away from the fish

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May 15, 2022, 09:02:37 PM
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We all know and use the concept of "Whale".  Smiley
However, after all, the whale is the largest animal in the world that has no enemies and peacefully swims in the ocean. And Whale doesn't eat other fish, it eats one plankton.
A whale in the ocean is completely different from a whale in cryptocurrencies or in general in the financial sector. By calling these owners of huge amounts of money whales, we are making an unforgivable mistake. Because a whale in wildlife in its way of life does not at all correspond to a whale in finance.

this is not the normal way to try to convince people to meme up a new buzzword.
also your assumptions are innaccurate..

if we imaging sats as plankton.
both fish and whales compete to both eat plankton but they dont eat each other.

so the competition comparison applies. limited plankton and whales grab a heck of alot more of it than a fish

whales in ocean and in crypto dont rush around darting around fighting for it. they just lazily bathe in their own time with an open mouth and let the plankton come to them.
most of the whale in crypto are exchanges. they dont need to run around buying crypto fighting for their share. infact most of the coin comes to them via the fish. pushing the plankton into a whales mouth by trying to get away from the fish

I do not claim that this is a suitable option for determining whales in finance. 

But you must agree that a majestic animal, free-swimming in the ocean and having no enemies (with the exception of a man, a whaler, of course) compares with a certain person, often of an unpleasant appearance, maybe even disgusting and nasty.  And it is worth noting that this man got a lot of money by accident.  This is especially true for crypto whales.

But of course, "Hwale" may not take root, but you still need to come up with some kind of word to refer to such "new rich" in crypto.   Smiley
And such a word should be funny and have a slight tinge of disdain and a little tinge of contempt.  Therefore, this word should be original and funny.

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May 15, 2022, 09:44:04 PM
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We all know and use the concept of "Whale".  Smiley
However, after all, the whale is the largest animal in the world that has no enemies and peacefully swims in the ocean. And Whale doesn't eat other fish, it eats one plankton.

It probably doesn't matter to you, but many whales eat fish and don't eat plankton.

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May 15, 2022, 11:42:39 PM
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We all know and use the concept of "Whale".  Smiley
However, after all, the whale is the largest animal in the world that has no enemies and peacefully swims in the ocean. And Whale doesn't eat other fish, it eats one plankton.
Really?

It looks like you know nothing much about the whale diet  Grin
Ask the squids and Octopuses and see they consider whales as peaceful animals.

Here is a guide so that you make up for mind on the "hwale" suggestion

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Here's a small overview of the baleen whale diet:

Squid
Krill
Fish
Octopus
Larvae
Crustaceans
Small crabs

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Here's an overview of the toothed whale diet:

Marine mammals (porpoises, dolphins, whales)
Crabs
Octopus
Squid
Fish
Other sea creatures (sharks, seabirds, walruses, sea lions, seals)

Personally I don't even see the point why you are suggesting this.

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May 19, 2022, 09:56:29 AM
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Why did I create this thread?

Of course, I know very well what whales eat. And I know well the difference in the diet of different species of whales.
Here, in general, this question is of secondary importance. Here's a little historical background:


Even in ancient Rome, there was an expression "new man" - novus homo.  This was the name given to plebeians and representatives of noble families who managed to get high government positions.  The patrician aristocrats looked at them with contempt.

 The French phrase "nouveau riche" appeared in the 19th century.  With the transition to capitalism, an industrial society, the role of the nobility began to decline, and enterprising representatives of the "vile class" began to grow rich: the children of shopkeepers, artisans, and peasants could become wealthy manufacturers and bankers.

 The old French aristocracy treated the "new rich" with condescension, despised their ignorance, ignorance of secular manners, low cultural level.  At the same time, the nouveau riche, wishing to raise their social status, could buy titles of nobility.

So the development of cryptocurrencies over the past 13 years has led to the creation of a whole army of unexpectedly enriched people, the ideal and which can be jokingly considered dreams of "Lambo, their island and many women, mulattos."  Smiley
And some of the newly born "whales" are completely unsuitable for  possessing colossal fortunes. Here, in order to somehow distinguish such "new rich" who have earned on cryptocurrencies, it is worth having an international term in English.
Well, make your suggestions on how to call such people so that the comic meaning is still clear.
I'm here  and thought that "Hwale" might well be such a word. Smiley

What can you suggest?

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May 19, 2022, 10:23:17 AM
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I think this discussion is a little bit useless  Grin But as for the word: I think whale was chosen because big buyers eat up many small orders at exchanges with their large orders. This is similar to a whale.
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The name 'Whale' IMO, was given to the animal Whale with no attribute of behavior attached to it. However, some English expressions use animal behavior to describe a phenomenon, For example, the word 'I smell a rat' - means something suspicious; causing a feeling that something is wrong or that someone is behaving wrongly. There is no point changing the phrase to may be 'atr', or other term as it may confuse people. IMO, I think it is more vivid to use the word 'Whale' as it makes a better/faster meaning to convey the message. the word 'Hwale' may be confusing and may create doubts on the exact message the person want to convey. Just my humble opinion.   

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We all know and use the concept of "Whale".  Smiley
However, after all, the whale is the largest animal in the world that has no enemies and peacefully swims in the ocean. And Whale doesn't eat other fish, it eats one plankton.

You missed the biology class, right?
First no, there are whales that eat fish, there are whales that squid, and while everyone called them dolphins both killer whales and sperm whales are also a part of the toothed whale order. And as the name suggests those things kill everything from sharks to other whales.

But of course, "Hwale" may not take root, but you still need to come up with some kind of word to refer to such "new rich" in crypto.

Of course, it won't because it's just a rip-off from HODL, nothing more.

Anyhow, the term whale was not invented by crypto lovers, it's a term borrowed from gambling as that's one of the first things that really took off with crypto and it's about being a high roller. you can check the forum yourself, before 2012 nearly all the talk about whales was about the animal itself.


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It's good that you expressed your thoughts on the issue here.

I agree that "Hwale" really looks like a plagiarism from "hodl".
I also agree that "hwale" is unlikely to be accepted by the crypto community.

But I think that the attitude towards random mega-rich cryptocurrency holders should be a little ridiculous but also dismissive. For such people, a special international term should be established.
And I think the widely used word "whale" does not quite accurately refer to such people. After all, whales are now understood, for example, exchanges, institutional investors, developers of a successful altcoin, and so on.
It turns out that "whale" is not exactly "new rich".
So the term "Whale" is not accurate. "Whale" is too general a concept.

It is necessary to isolate directly from this term "new rich in crypto-currency". Smiley

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