Gigatree - The blockchain that donates 80% of its profits to associations

[Miiike]

Buying a tree and planting it is relatively expensive, around 12€ per tree.

There are already companies that sell trees and NGO but they only plant a few million.

Gigatree aims to plant 200-800 million trees per year with the help of its payment system only with the fees.

The Gigatree project is to give. By donating 50% of its profits to NGOs and 50% to create our own NGO

Gigatree cannot plant trees alone, it needs partner associations that are already in the afforestation sector.

12€ is for a tree, correct? A full grown tree? I have to admit I never directly involved in a tree planting social activity, but from what I gathered and the farthest I know, the usual "tree" being planted for reforestation are tree seedlings, which google quick search showed it's merely around 1€?

Further, I'd like to know the data you use for the claim that NGO only plant a few million. Because if I take a quick look at Project Eden, they reported they've planted over 423 million trees. And that's Eden alone, there are still other reforestation NGO that contributes to million other trees.

[gigatree]

I did research on the feasibility of the project and it turns out that planting a tree for 1€ is impossible

https://www.reforestaction.com/ 9 millions trees planted since 2009 > As a reminder we need 1000 billion trees
https://www.coeurdeforet.com/ NGO plant in multiple countries > 720 000 trees in 2020
https://ishpingo.org/ NGO plant in amazonia > 400 000 trees since 2005

You can find many NGOs, they don't plant many trees quickly enough to effectively counter global warming

COST OF A TREE

12€ is an average cost, it may vary depending on several factors.

land in the countryside costs around € 25,000 in France for 10,000m2 2,5€ per m2

A minimum of 4m2 is needed for a tree to grow properly and to leave space for plants around

Which makes 10 € per tree

So a gardener can plant an average of 10 trees per hour. with a gross salary of 2300 €, that gives us a labor cost of 1.57 €

The price also depends on the type of tree you choose
1€ it's the price for a little tree ( 1.06 exactly for an order of 12.000 trees) 20-30 cm


You can check price here :
https://www.planfor.fr/achat,chene-liege,1033,FR

this tree is one of the cheapest and it is "resistant" to forest fires, he can reborn without help
but of course we can not only plant one species of trees, biodiversity is important


Total: 12.63 € without including water cost, tools, truck and maintenance

[Miiike]

I did research on the feasibility of the project and it turns out that planting a tree for 1€ is impossible

https://www.reforestaction.com/ 9 millions trees planted since 2009 > As a reminder we need 1000 billion trees
https://www.coeurdeforet.com/ NGO plant in multiple countries > 720 000 trees in 2020
https://ishpingo.org/ NGO plant in amazonia > 400 000 trees since 2005

You can find many NGOs, they don't plant many trees quickly enough to effectively counter global warming

Wouldn't those link with summary of trees they planted just further disprove your claim that NGO only planted few millions of trees and actually do a favor to support my arguments that NGO planted hundreds of million of trees? And that, are NGOs alone. Shall we talk about GO?

COST OF A TREE

12€ is an average cost, it may vary depending on several factors.

land in the countryside costs around € 25,000 in France for 10,000m2 2,5€ per m2

A minimum of 4m2 is needed for a tree to grow properly and to leave space for plants around

Which makes 10 € per tree

So a gardener can plant an average of 10 trees per hour. with a gross salary of 2300 €, that gives us a labor cost of 1.57 €

The price also depends on the type of tree you choose
1€ it's the price for a little tree ( 1.06 exactly for an order of 12.000 trees) 20-30 cm


You can check price here :
https://www.planfor.fr/achat,chene-liege,1033,FR

this tree is one of the cheapest and it is "resistant" to forest fires, he can reborn without help
but of course we can not only plant one species of trees, biodiversity is important


Total: 12.63 € without including water cost, tools, truck and maintenance

Wait... I didn't know reforestation needs an organizational body to buy land? We're talking about reforestation here, right? The act of re-foresting what once a forest with trees? Perhaps you're referring to aforestation?

I understand that labor cost may occur, although many NGOs (and GOs) actually have volunteers working for their case, which, brings us to my original question: why should people use your swap platform instead of other existing ones, and for the green-goers (which predictably will be your main market), why should they use your service, that includes land cost and labor cost in their budget, while out there exists green organizations (bigger and more established ones  also more diverse, be it NGOs or GOs) that's supported by volunteers, that can cut down unnecessary costs?

You can check price here :
https://www.planfor.fr/achat,chene-liege,1033,FR

I am sorry that I have to ask this, but do you have any experience on forestation activity before? You do aware that planfor were a platform that sell trees for gardening purpose, right? For commercial and aesthetic purpose and not for social forestation ones? I didn't speak French, so I can't be sure what the french website said, but the UK ones clearly imply their purpose.

[gigatree]

Environment part

Ecology is not just a question of volunteering. People have jobs to solve environmental problems
In NGOs, we can have employees and we need them. Voluntarism at its limits when you have big goals people cannot give 100% of their time to volunteering and creating jobs is good for our economy.

I have probably less skills than a forester but I know the world of work and how teams could work together for a great project.

Our involvement will allow us to solve each problem one by one.

You are talking about a larger organization that also has a project to plant 500 million to 1B trees (savages, not for IKEA) per year, tell me which one, because it is the engine of this project.

Also,
you forgot the most important. We will donate 50% of our profits to afforestation and reforestation NGOs, because they don't have enough money and Gigatree must learn from NGOs to create his own. win win project

We bring finance technology to the service of NGOs  

Technology part

"why should people use your swap platform instead of other existing ones"

It's not just a swap platform. Gigatree is a digital currency where you can trade and speculate at transfer rates that are faster than cryptos and easier to use.

Like cryptos you can easily get interested since the token will be sold more expensive the next day. So you can sell it for more or less every day.

[Miiike]

Environment part

Ecology is not just a question of volunteering. People have jobs to solve environmental problems
In NGOs, we can have employees and we need them. Voluntarism at its limits when you have big goals people cannot give 100% of their time to volunteering and creating jobs is good for our economy.

I have probably less skills than a forester but I know the world of work and how teams could work together for a great project.

Our involvement will allow us to solve each problem one by one.

You are talking about a larger organization that also has a project to plant 500 million to 1B trees (savages, not for IKEA) per year, tell me which one, because it is the engine of this project.

Also,
you forgot the most important. We will donate 50% of our profits to afforestation and reforestation NGOs, because they don't have enough money and Gigatree must learn from NGOs to create his own. win win project

We bring finance technology to the service of NGOs  

Let's talk about this part first before we move to tech part.

First of all, I'd still like to hear a confirmation or a denial that you use commercial-scale website (and seems like a well known and high profile too) as your reference for the project budgeting.

And then, I'd like to know how you'll guarantee users that you can plant 1B trees per year. Theoretically speaking, the biggest organization that do reforestation is perhaps UN with their UNEP, that are yet to plant 1B, let alone achieving the number in a year span. And that is the United Nation, an organization backed by the world, wouldn't it rather delusional (or at the very least to say, impossible) to claim such number. Unless you have a strong backing theory.

[gigatree]

Obviously, growing a billion trees will only be possible if there is enthusiasm for the project.

1 billion is the long-term goal.

If we can already gather people to buy and use the Gigatree in trade and commerce.

This figure is completely feasible.

This is what the crowdfunding, application, website will be used for, to bring together.

[Miiike]

Obviously, growing a billion trees will only be possible if there is enthusiasm for the project.

Namely the entire "more than 100 billion euro" in blockchain (stated on your opening post)? Which, in other words, (almost) the entire blockchain transaction? Sounds a little bit far fetched isn't it?

1 billion is the long-term goal.

If we can already gather people to buy and use the Gigatree in trade and commerce.

So now it is a longterm? The opening post said otherwise, that you'll plant 1b trees and 10b plant each year. Bolded, to ensure it got readers attention.

This figure is completely feasible.

This is what the crowdfunding, application, website will be used for, to bring together.

Feasible as in gathering the entire cryptocommunity to use your platform?

Also, where's the clarification of using planfor's price as reference?

[meetAm]

This is not my first time in this thread, last time I was hoping to see a little more information here as it seems interesting to me. Problems with CO2 is very important in our days

[gigatree]

This is not my first time in this thread, last time I was hoping to see a little more information here as it seems interesting to me. Problems with CO2 is very important in our days

Hello meetAm,
I am happy to hear that you are interested in the project, we will keep you informed as soon as possible.

[Miiike]

Obviously, growing a billion trees will only be possible if there is enthusiasm for the project.

Namely the entire "more than 100 billion euro" in blockchain
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Any follow ups for this? Your last post were rather mundane, is it not? Warm and friendly, but compared to the inquiries that supposed to get a better attention and response... well, if I may comment on the topic, I am agree with meetAm, you barely add substantial info, although you said on the first post that you'll give updates? Maybe we can start with team details and background?

[gigatree]

Post updated, stay tuned

[gigatree]

"Gigatree transactions will plant one billion trees and ten billion plants each year" - this is of course a very good intention, but it seems to me very difficult to implement

The goal is high but not impossible, if we can achieve 10-20% of the goal. It would be amazing

[Miiike]

"Gigatree transactions will plant one billion trees and ten billion plants each year" - this is of course a very good intention, but it seems to me very difficult to implement

The goal is high but not impossible, if we can achieve 10-20% of the goal. It would be amazing

So you're caught up and tripping with your own statements and can't address to my questions without tangling yourself further and decided to play fool by not replying me? May I start questioning the credibility of this project?

[gigatree]

"Gigatree transactions will plant one billion trees and ten billion plants each year" - this is of course a very good intention, but it seems to me very difficult to implement

The goal is high but not impossible, if we can achieve 10-20% of the goal. It would be amazing

So you're caught up and tripping with your own statements and can't address to my questions without tangling yourself further and decided to play fool by not replying me? May I start questioning the credibility of this project?

Hello Miiike,

please, be patient

We will be updating frequently. You will have to wait for the information like everyone else.

You will be kept informed on this post as I told you previously.

I can't reply to all your messages, that would mean I have to do the X2 job. (website and bitcointalk)

thanks for understanding

[Miiike]

"Gigatree transactions will plant one billion trees and ten billion plants each year" - this is of course a very good intention, but it seems to me very difficult to implement

The goal is high but not impossible, if we can achieve 10-20% of the goal. It would be amazing

So you're caught up and tripping with your own statements and can't address to my questions without tangling yourself further and decided to play fool by not replying me? May I start questioning the credibility of this project?

Hello Miiike,

please, be patient

We will be updating frequently. You will have to wait for the information like everyone else.

You will be kept informed on this post as I told you previously.

I can't reply to all your messages, that would mean I have to do the X2 job. (website and bitcointalk)

thanks for understanding

Well then what are you doing here? You clearly have time to compose this reply. And if you're as busy as you tried to hint us, wouldn't it be more efficient to reply me with direct answers instead of giving a raincheck? Plus, you're a team of... two? No? The other partner is a silent partner, then?

[gigatree]

The other partner is working on website, and mainly on the texts, he does not have time to take care of the forum. I take care of IT development.

I answer you out of courtesy

we have already talked a lot,
please stay tuned, on the post

[gigatree]

After all the remarks that have been given, the laws that have changed since 2020, Gigatree has taken an incredible turn. And I thank you for that

Update of the post and the project as a whole.
See the changes on the main post.

i.e. the context and the solution found as well as the useful links.
02/09/2022