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March 28, 2014, 01:02:14 AM
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Create your own country like Sealand or the Principality of Hutt River. And you will the king in your own new kingdom.  Smiley
Wouldn't you like that?

I wouldn't do that. I would miss my job, my friends, my family and the sedentary life of the city.  Smiley

If WW3 comes to your city your "sedentary life" is going to change.
good luck.

So true although I wonder will they nuke the mountain ranges or is it safer to stay in the city during WWIII

Or perhaps live in the ocean on a nice boat until it gets found lol.

(Opt out of society on a boat in International Waters lol)

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March 28, 2014, 01:46:05 AM
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The closest thing you will come to is becoming a World Citizen and expatriating.
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March 28, 2014, 02:56:26 AM
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The closest thing you will come to is becoming a World Citizen and expatriating.

A world citizen? Is that a real thing?

I believe in voting with your feet; you can go to a freer society where the state desn't control the whole system that much

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March 28, 2014, 02:59:44 AM
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become a hermit.

you would still be involved with society . its impossible to completly opt out and be off the grid. sometime your gonna dela with society and you will always have to follow laws.

Stare into the sun and harvest psychedelic mushrooms for energy.  All you need is love.

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March 28, 2014, 07:28:29 AM
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Just transfer to another country. All governments are not the same. I hunt birds, wild chicken, wild animals, fish in the rivers and seas I do not need a license for that lol. Only big fishing company needs a license. I don't pay tax and I don't expect to get services my government in return.

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March 28, 2014, 07:57:16 AM
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You could be this guy

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2014/01/07/3408086/mick-dodge-rain-forest-dweller.html

or like this guy  Grin

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/amou-haji-iran-hasnt-bathed-60-years_n_4602936.html

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March 28, 2014, 10:24:41 AM
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That was entertaining, I don't want to know the smell of the ira.nian one

Mick Dodge seems not to stay in the forest for the winter : "he enjoys a warm cabin and spending time with a lady friend."

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March 28, 2014, 01:57:27 PM
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~9 months a year (not the summer) you can live in 'anarchist' Slab City.
Life Off the Grid in Slab City  (short video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpPmT7S4zHE


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What a hell hole

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March 28, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
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Governments want to control even the air we breath,is hard this days to be outside society,if you try to do that you will be seen like a freak .But there are some parts of world were the government,tax and civilization didn't rich yet ; look at the amazonian tribes,or the one from Africa .So if you don't want to leave in “a society” you can go there.

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March 28, 2014, 02:16:33 PM
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Governments want to control even the air we breath,is hard this days to be outside society,if you try to do that you will be seen like a freak .But there are some parts of world were the government,tax and civilization didn't rich yet ; look at the amazonian tribes,or the one from Africa .So if you don't want to leave in “a society” you can go there.

b-bu-but a tribe is a society too!
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March 28, 2014, 03:20:50 PM
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Governments want to control even the air we breath,is hard this days to be outside society,if you try to do that you will be seen like a freak .But there are some parts of world were the government,tax and civilization didn't rich yet ; look at the amazonian tribes,or the one from Africa .So if you don't want to leave in “a society” you can go there.

b-bu-but a tribe is a society too!

He had no other choice but to become a hermit.  Smiley

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March 28, 2014, 07:41:10 PM
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Just transfer to another country. All governments are not the same. I hunt birds, wild chicken, wild animals, fish in the rivers and seas I do not need a license for that lol. Only big fishing company needs a license. I don't pay tax and I don't expect to get services my government in return.


What country are you in?
Sounds pretty good from here.

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March 28, 2014, 08:03:23 PM
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If you can befriend these people, you can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island


No social security number, no taxes, no government, no tv, no internet, no radio, only fishing, hunting, eating, reproducing and sleeping.

Here's someone trying to visit them, they're not greeted with love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQuYKYxdVI

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March 28, 2014, 08:16:36 PM
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i have the same thoughts. if i go out into the woods to live off the grid society wouldnt let this happen and id most  likely break laws some how. i believe that if we live inside of the USA we are not allowed to opt out of society and all of its bullshit. we just have to live.

This, people go on about if you don't like it move.. move where?

Sorry slave.. slavers don't just let their slaves go.
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March 28, 2014, 08:28:36 PM
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i have the same thoughts. if i go out into the woods to live off the grid society wouldnt let this happen and id most  likely break laws some how. i believe that if we live inside of the USA we are not allowed to opt out of society and all of its bullshit. we just have to live.

This, people go on about if you don't like it move.. move where?

Sorry slave.. slavers don't just let their slaves go.

Some governments are not hurting their cows as much as others yet so sometimes it can be good to leave when your farmer tolerates that you do

If you can befriend these people, you can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island


No social security number, no taxes, no government, no tv, no internet, no radio, only fishing, hunting, eating, reproducing and sleeping.

Here's someone trying to visit them, they're not greeted with love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQuYKYxdVI



They sure didn't want to talk to them

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March 28, 2014, 09:59:28 PM
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Just transfer to another country. All governments are not the same. I hunt birds, wild chicken, wild animals, fish in the rivers and seas I do not need a license for that lol. Only big fishing company needs a license. I don't pay tax and I don't expect to get services my government in return.


where u live

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March 29, 2014, 12:09:14 AM
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Even living of the grid with zero human contact, you still need some kind of human-created form of entertainment and education, meaning you're still being affected by society, even if not vice versa.
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March 29, 2014, 12:45:55 AM
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Even living of the grid with zero human contact, you still need some kind of human-created form of entertainment and education, meaning you're still being affected by society, even if not vice versa.

You can imagine living only with your family or friends so you have human interaction but only with a small selected group

You could argue you are then in a small society, it makes me think of the movie The Beach..

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March 29, 2014, 04:33:58 AM
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If you can befriend these people, you can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island


No social security number, no taxes, no government, no tv, no internet, no radio, only fishing, hunting, eating, reproducing and sleeping.

Here's someone trying to visit them, they're not greeted with love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQuYKYxdVI




Officially, the island has been administered by India as part of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands Union Territory since 1947.[16] However, because there has never been any treaty with the people of the island, nor any record of a physical occupation whereby the people of the island have conceded sovereignty, the island exists in a curious state of limbo under established international law and can be seen as a sovereign entity under Indian protection. It is, therefore, one of the de facto autonomous regions of India.

So are they like cave men?
I'll look at the youtube now....


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