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October 28, 2022, 06:10:23 PM
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Putin should be proud. Think of the great accomplishments he has made happen by turning Russia from a power-hungry, military, war nation into a free-trade-with-the-world nation. It's the US with their coups in Ukraine since 2014 that started this Russian police action.


'No one can sit out the coming storm': Putin's milestone Valdai speech


The world is entering a decade of tumult as the pursuit of a more just world order clashes with the arbitrary hegemony of the collective West, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday, addressing the annual meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club.

Putin's speech ranged from biodiversity to "cancel culture," the nature of what the West has to offer and Russia's response, followed by hours of answering audience questions. Here are six key points from his opening remarks.

The West stokes conflict to preserve hegemony

From inciting conflict in Ukraine and provocations around Taiwan to destabilizing the world food and energy markets, the US and its allies have been escalating tensions around the globe in recent years and especially in recent months, Putin said.

"Ruling the world is what the so-called West has staked in this game, which is certainly dangerous, bloody and – I would say – dirty. It denies the sovereignty of countries and peoples, their identity and uniqueness, and disregards any interests of other states," the Russian president explained. In their so-called "rules-based world order," only those making the "rules" have any agency, while everyone else must simply obey.

However, the West has "no constructive ideas and positive development, they simply have nothing to offer the world except the preservation of their dominance."



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The Russians Are Building Bomb Shelters - This Is Getting Real


The officials involved have been directed to get the shelters in working order. Right now.

Notifications have gone out in Moscow to inform residents that bomb shelters are being prepared. The Education Department has issued instructions to all institutions under its control to outfit new shelters in addition to those in existence.

Moscow hospitals are also involved in the efforts. Shelters are being set up in the hospitals as well and equipped with electricity, lighting, disposable plates, and water. Moscow's Social Protection Department has been charged with painting arrows on the street and public buildings to direct people to bomb shelters.

Parking garages are also being converted into bomb shelters. Bunks, first aid kits, and heaters are being brought in. People using the garages have been told to remove their cars.

Similar actions are being taken in other major Russian cities. Emergency warning systems are being tested. Lists of locations suitable to be converted into additional shelters are being compiled.

President Vladimir Putin oversaw training exercises of Russia's strategic nuclear deterrence forces on Wednesday.  Russian state television aired footage of Putin overseeing the drills from a control room.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the drills simulated "a massive nuclear strike in response to an enemy nuclear attack."  "Under the leadership of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Vladimir Putin, a training session was held with ground, sea, and air strategic deterrence forces, during which practical launches of ballistic and cruise missiles took place," the Kremlin said in a statement.

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October 29, 2022, 08:24:41 PM
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The Russians were on the run. They are fleeing from Ukraine, fleeing from Russia. I think Putin will also run, he has two options, to Korea or to Iran.

Putin is a very proud man. I do not think he will run away from Russia no matter whatever that happens. He would rather die fighting than go running away. His pride will not allow him take that decision. But what makes you think Putin will do such? I do not like Putin and the war that he started, I have to say it here again. But saying the truth as it is, Putin will not end up as a coward by running away like frightened rats.
everywhere these powerful are killing the poor - there is no stopping to it.
The world is not a good place to live. The life is very unpredictable and natural deaths are reducing and the war lords are taking everything in their hands.

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October 30, 2022, 07:48:38 AM
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The Russians were on the run. They are fleeing from Ukraine, fleeing from Russia. I think Putin will also run, he has two options, to Korea or to Iran.

Putin is a very proud man. I do not think he will run away from Russia no matter whatever that happens. He would rather die fighting than go running away. His pride will not allow him take that decision. But what makes you think Putin will do such? I do not like Putin and the war that he started, I have to say it here again. But saying the truth as it is, Putin will not end up as a coward by running away like frightened rats.
everywhere these powerful are killing the poor - there is no stopping to it.
The world is not a good place to live. The life is very unpredictable and natural deaths are reducing and the war lords are taking everything in their hands.

I agree! Remove Putin and the problem will be solved.
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October 30, 2022, 03:29:52 PM
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everywhere these powerful are killing the poor - there is no stopping to it.
The world is not a good place to live. The life is very unpredictable and natural deaths are reducing and the war lords are taking everything in their hands.

The poor in their millions are scared of challenging the rich, that is why the rich act like they own the poor miserable masses. The way two adults behave over a dispute they should settle quietly but they drag the whole country into war and lives are lost because not them is sad. It is not only with the Russia and Ukraine war. Other wars also follow this pattern. It is usually with disagreement that should be settled in peace but never did. You are correct that war kills more than natural death.

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October 30, 2022, 07:09:38 PM
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everywhere these powerful are killing the poor - there is no stopping to it.
The world is not a good place to live. The life is very unpredictable and natural deaths are reducing and the war lords are taking everything in their hands.

The poor in their millions are scared of challenging the rich, that is why the rich act like they own the poor miserable masses. The way two adults behave over a dispute they should settle quietly but they drag the whole country into war and lives are lost because not them is sad. It is not only with the Russia and Ukraine war. Other wars also follow this pattern. It is usually with disagreement that should be settled in peace but never did. You are correct that war kills more than natural death.
You are right in saying everywhere rich are suppressing the poor people be it at local level - or national level or an international level
We see so many innocent people being killed everyday and there is no stoppin.

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November 03, 2022, 10:29:48 AM
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I've gone through your post; I can say here that we can't predict anything right now. Things can be changed at any time.

Though the history of Russia's war fever is undoubtedly not reasonable enough, and Russians are already aware of it,, they might have prepared themselves for the same. So all we have to do is sit, wait & watch the moment.

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November 03, 2022, 11:50:27 AM
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everywhere these powerful are killing the poor - there is no stopping to it.
The world is not a good place to live. The life is very unpredictable and natural deaths are reducing and the war lords are taking everything in their hands.

I agree! Remove Putin and the problem will be solved.

If Putin is removed, we will have nuclear war for a fact. Why? Because some other Russian leader, who isn't as patient as Putin is, will take over Russia.

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If Putin is removed, we will have nuclear war for a fact. Why? Because some other Russian leader, who isn't as patient as Putin is, will take over Russia.
If, it does not work in history. History is written by facts, not if. And the facts are that Putin threateningly said that you will die, and we will end up in Paradise.
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November 14, 2022, 11:39:10 PM
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If Putin is removed, we will have nuclear war for a fact. Why? Because some other Russian leader, who isn't as patient as Putin is, will take over Russia.
If, it does not work in history. History is written by facts, not if. And the facts are that Putin threateningly said that you will die, and we will end up in Paradise.
its not easy to attack someone with nuke - the aftereffects of Nuclear bombing on HIroshima and nagasaki are still fresh
People have not forgotten that - I am not sure why people think of using Nuke all the time . . The attach is not easy not a survival after the attack

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November 17, 2022, 09:32:42 PM
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Russia has lost every war since the time of Napoleon, except for World War II, in which it defeated Germany with the help of the United States and Great Britain.


It is possible russia deserves all of the credit for defeating nazi germany.

Russian WWII casualties were around 5 million.

While casualties of the USA in WWII were around 500,000.

Which seems to indicate russia bore the brunt of the fighting.

Also while it may not be a popular topic, there was a war between dagestan and russia very recently.
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November 17, 2022, 10:41:49 PM
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Russia has lost every war since the time of Napoleon, except for World War II, in which it defeated Germany with the help of the United States and Great Britain.


It is possible russia deserves all of the credit for defeating nazi germany.

Russian WWII casualties were around 5 million.

While casualties of the USA in WWII were around 500,000.

Which seems to indicate russia bore the brunt of the fighting.

Also while it may not be a popular topic, there was a war between dagestan and russia very recently.
Russia - USA - UK - GERMANY - ISRAEL They are the biggest peace preacher yet they have collectively done irreparable damage to the world.
The more they want other counties to stop the use of arms and ammunition the more they do it on the weak countries - USA has destroyed Afghanistan and along side half of the Pakistan in their fight against terrorist. What a pity!

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November 20, 2022, 07:45:45 PM
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Russia has lost every war since the time of Napoleon, except for World War II, in which it defeated Germany with the help of the United States and Great Britain.


It is possible russia deserves all of the credit for defeating nazi germany.

Russian WWII casualties were around 5 million.

While casualties of the USA in WWII were around 500,000.

Which seems to indicate russia bore the brunt of the fighting.

Also while it may not be a popular topic, there was a war between dagestan and russia very recently.
Russia - USA - UK - GERMANY - ISRAEL They are the biggest peace preacher yet they have collectively done irreparable damage to the world.
The more they want other counties to stop the use of arms and ammunition the more they do it on the weak countries - USA has destroyed Afghanistan and along side half of the Pakistan in their fight against terrorist. What a pity!

The ironic thing about these nations is, they all recognize that they are world peace-keepers. And to do the peace-keeping job with each other, they have to make war on each other (and everybody else) to force (enforce) the peace.  Grin

I laugh, but it is true, right?

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November 21, 2022, 10:13:45 PM
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Russia has lost every war since the time of Napoleon, except for World War II, in which it defeated Germany with the help of the United States and Great Britain.


It is possible russia deserves all of the credit for defeating nazi germany.

Russian WWII casualties were around 5 million.

While casualties of the USA in WWII were around 500,000.

Which seems to indicate russia bore the brunt of the fighting.

Also while it may not be a popular topic, there was a war between dagestan and russia very recently.
Russia - USA - UK - GERMANY - ISRAEL They are the biggest peace preacher yet they have collectively done irreparable damage to the world.
The more they want other counties to stop the use of arms and ammunition the more they do it on the weak countries - USA has destroyed Afghanistan and along side half of the Pakistan in their fight against terrorist. What a pity!

The ironic thing about these nations is, they all recognize that they are world peace-keepers. And to do the peace-keeping job with each other, they have to make war on each other (and everybody else) to force (enforce) the peace.  Grin

I laugh, but it is true, right?

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10 millions Ukraine are with out power supply
Kyiv experiencing first snow of winter
Energy industry working rushing to retire enter
Ukrain gov urges people to restore energy - -6 temp in Ukraine

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The ironic thing about these nations is, they all recognize that they are world peace-keepers. And to do the peace-keeping job with each other, they have to make war on each other (and everybody else) to force (enforce) the peace.  Grin

I laugh, but it is true, right?

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10 millions Ukraine are with out power supply
Kyiv experiencing first snow of winter
Energy industry working rushing to retire enter
Ukrain gov urges people to restore energy - -6 temp in Ukraine


Problems made by the US in joint operations with their puppet Ukraine government. If the US left, there would be peace in Ukraine... not right away, of course. But as soon as things could settle back to normal.

Today's Russia is all about free trade. It's the US that is all about conquering everybody through bribing government officials, and coups where bribes don't work.

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November 27, 2022, 08:44:49 AM
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The more desperate the plan to carry out the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, the more Russia strikes at civilian targets in Ukraine. Putin hopes that in this way he will force Kyiv to negotiate and secure the occupied territories, in order to then continue the plan to destroy Ukraine as a state, which was originally conceived.
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November 27, 2022, 06:04:22 PM
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The more desperate the plan to carry out the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, the more Russia strikes at civilian targets in Ukraine. Putin hopes that in this way he will force Kyiv to negotiate and secure the occupied territories, in order to then continue the plan to destroy Ukraine as a state, which was originally conceived.
sometime the plans we make and the effort we make fails terribly - There are other bigger plans by the nature and man is helpless in front of nature.
Like what COVID did to the world in last 2 years was so terrible that we have never have imagined even in the wildest dream.

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November 28, 2022, 01:46:32 AM
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Poor Ukrainians. Winter is almost here, and they don't have any electricity. There has to be a lot of despair in that country. Go to the website and look at the images of how dark Ukraine is at night now compared with the beginning of the war.


Satellite Imagery Shows Extensive Destruction Of Ukraine Power Grid


Initially, Ukraine's media spin suggested that the precision strikes were "ineffective", with western news outlets showing only a handful of images of craters in streets and some scarred apartment buildings.  There were limited admissions of damage to the power and water grids, but Ukraine claimed that these systems would be back and functional within days.  This did not happen.

Not surprisingly, Ukraine suffered far more damage to their utilities than the government and media let on.  Later estimates ranged from 60% to 80% of the nation's grid destroyed or unusable and the latest satellite photos of active lights at night support this.  Below, we can see lights across Ukraine on February 24th at the start of the war.

Next, we have an image taken from November 24th.

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December 04, 2022, 11:01:47 PM
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The more desperate the plan to carry out the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, the more Russia strikes at civilian targets in Ukraine. Putin hopes that in this way he will force Kyiv to negotiate and secure the occupied territories, in order to then continue the plan to destroy Ukraine as a state, which was originally conceived.
Heard in the local news that Ukraine has received the blood money - now there will talks and negotiation and the rehabilitation
The show of the power has to end somewhere. After so much of killing and destruction

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December 05, 2022, 06:47:49 AM
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The more desperate the plan to carry out the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, the more Russia strikes at civilian targets in Ukraine. Putin hopes that in this way he will force Kyiv to negotiate and secure the occupied territories, in order to then continue the plan to destroy Ukraine as a state, which was originally conceived.
Heard in the local news that Ukraine has received the blood money - now there will talks and negotiation and the rehabilitation
The show of the power has to end somewhere. After so much of killing and destruction

 The show, as you call Russia's war in Ukraine, will end only after the defeat of Russia.
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