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March 13, 2023, 06:15:02 AM
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What prevented Russia from being as successful of a country before the sanctions? Competition from other countries. Then the sanctions came and gave Russia lots of things she needed to become way more successful.

Even you know that if Russia wasn't a successful country, Ukraine, the US and Nato would have conquered her long ago. Since she is successful - and now more because of the sanctions - you are doing all you can to take her success away from her, even though you might not get any of it. You are a thief, through slander.

Russia has the chance to become rich. All she has to do is base her money system on things of real value rather than lies like the US money system. Russia (and some other countries) is doing this through BRICS.

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There is no need to repeat Putin's legend that the West wanted to conquer Russia; if this were true, it would have been easy to do at the time of the collapse of the USSR. On the contrary, the West helped the Russians, hoping that democracy had finally won on the territory of the empire. But the West did not understand that the Russian people and democracy are incompatible things. I wrote about this in the article "People's fate or each cricket has its own hearth", explaining it with the mentality of the Russian people. I'm posting this article now.

The idea that Conquering Russia might have been easy at the time of the Soviet collapse is false. Russia didn't do collapse. They simply recognized that the way to better advancement for themselves and their satellite states was freedom. Freedom means free trade.

In other words, the Soviet collapse was the beginning of Russia's war that is conquering the the US and Nato right now. It was the beginning of free trade between Russia and the world. The form of free trade was advancing better than the free trade that the US and Nato were doing. That's part of the reason the US and Nato are fighting via Ukraine. Sneaky rather than hones war... just the way the US and her banks always do.

How do we know all this?
1. The US is making threats and war against Russia. The threats and war are less hidden each day as more info about the depth of the US armament to Ukraine is revealed.
2. The US is doing this because their banking industry is based on contracts and treaties full of lies. Russia's is based on using real money in trade... except where Russia successfully copied US money when trading with anybody who used US money.
3. Russia has bypassed the sanctions and grown stronger in trade with countries that want to trade with her... BRICS.
4. People (simple citizens) of the US and Nato are feeling the pinch of US banking faulty operations against Russia (creating more fake money through loans to the US government for Ukraine), while at the same time Russia's general strength from its people is stronger.

You write fiction novels. You write based on old Russia. You seem to have a biased attitude against Russia. But if you don't, you write the way a paid propagandist writes.

It seems that you don't understand that Democracy is almost the same as Dictatorship. People who think that democracy is better have been tricked into believing so. US democracy is showing us this right now. Its being shown in the fact that the US government is lying to its people. It is coming out into the open with Tucker and many other things and reporters.

Wake up and see that, even if Russia doesn't become strong and win, the rest of the world will go right down with her if she falls.

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 Freedom and trade are different concepts. Of course, in conditions of freedom, trade leads to the development of civilization. But there was also trade between democracies and countries with a totalitarian regime, for example, with the USSR or with Putin's Russia, before the sanctions, which are caused by Russian aggression.

As I see it, you are the paid propagandist here. All your comments here are copying Putin's lies. The West, though late, but understood. that the Empire of Lies and Evil must be stopped. Russian fascism will not pass!
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March 13, 2023, 07:23:48 PM
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The idea that Conquering Russia might have been easy at the time of the Soviet collapse is false. Russia didn't do collapse. They simply recognized that the way to better advancement for themselves and their satellite states was freedom. Freedom means free trade.

In other words, the Soviet collapse was the beginning of Russia's war that is conquering the the US and Nato right now. It was the beginning of free trade between Russia and the world. The form of free trade was advancing better than the free trade that the US and Nato were doing. That's part of the reason the US and Nato are fighting via Ukraine. Sneaky rather than hones war... just the way the US and her banks always do.

How do we know all this?
1. The US is making threats and war against Russia. The threats and war are less hidden each day as more info about the depth of the US armament to Ukraine is revealed.
2. The US is doing this because their banking industry is based on contracts and treaties full of lies. Russia's is based on using real money in trade... except where Russia successfully copied US money when trading with anybody who used US money.
3. Russia has bypassed the sanctions and grown stronger in trade with countries that want to trade with her... BRICS.
4. People (simple citizens) of the US and Nato are feeling the pinch of US banking faulty operations against Russia (creating more fake money through loans to the US government for Ukraine), while at the same time Russia's general strength from its people is stronger.

You write fiction novels. You write based on old Russia. You seem to have a biased attitude against Russia. But if you don't, you write the way a paid propagandist writes.

It seems that you don't understand that Democracy is almost the same as Dictatorship. People who think that democracy is better have been tricked into believing so. US democracy is showing us this right now. Its being shown in the fact that the US government is lying to its people. It is coming out into the open with Tucker and many other things and reporters.

Wake up and see that, even if Russia doesn't become strong and win, the rest of the world will go right down with her if she falls.

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 Freedom and trade are different concepts. Of course, in conditions of freedom, trade leads to the development of civilization. But there was also trade between democracies and countries with a totalitarian regime, for example, with the USSR or with Putin's Russia, before the sanctions, which are caused by Russian aggression.

As I see it, you are the paid propagandist here. All your comments here are copying Putin's lies. The West, though late, but understood. that the Empire of Lies and Evil must be stopped. Russian fascism will not pass!

Russian fascism was started by the US. It hasn't caught up to the US, and it doesn't want to.

Free trade between countries leads to whatever the country leaders dictate. Just because there is free trade between countries doesn't mean there is free trade between the citizens of the countries.

In large countries like the US and Russia, democracy and dictatorship produce almost the same results. The people are squashed under the lies of the leaders. Note that the people are of different mindsets. Some of the people like being squashed under their leaders, because it benefits them somehow... or at least they think it does.

Before the sanctions, Russia was playing the game of trade with other countries in ways that were beneficial to Russia. That's why they shut down the Soviet Union. Some of those ways were to agree with other countries in the ways that the other countries were playing the game. It was beneficial to Russia to do it this way at that time.

After the sanctions started, there wasn't any benefit for Russia to keep on playing the trade game they had been playing. So, they looked in other areas to find what worked for them. This brings them to China and Iran, etc., to trade with. It brings them to the point of improving and increasing BRICS.

One of the things that they found was a bunch of other countries that didn't like the way the West did their trading. Many of these countries are seeing just how bad the West is with its lying banking system that is trying to rule the world; the sanctions are showing this to everybody... bringing it out into the open.

Does Russia lie? Does Putin lie? Certainly. But all western trade is based on a gigantic trade lie. This lie is that they convert loans and contracts into money, and then they multiply the money value of the loans and contracts that they have made. The money of the West is almost all fake money.

US fake money looks good. It looks good until people and foreign governments figure out is is fake. Putin and Russian leaders would rather trade true value for true value. They don't want fake money. Why not? Because the fake money will collapse sooner or later. It's happening now for the West.

Look at all the governments of all the countries. The people running them are always looking to make a 'profit' for themselves and their countries. But the West is making their profit based on banking and trading fake money... lies. They are doing this way more than Russia and Putin could ever think of doing it, and certainly don't want to do it.

The point isn't that Putin and Russia aren't bad. They are. The point is that the West and their leaders (generally) are worse... by many country miles.

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March 13, 2023, 08:40:52 PM
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The idea that Conquering Russia might have been easy at the time of the Soviet collapse is false. Russia didn't do collapse. They simply recognized that the way to better advancement for themselves and their satellite states was freedom. Freedom means free trade.

In other words, the Soviet collapse was the beginning of Russia's war that is conquering the the US and Nato right now. It was the beginning of free trade between Russia and the world. The form of free trade was advancing better than the free trade that the US and Nato were doing. That's part of the reason the US and Nato are fighting via Ukraine. Sneaky rather than hones war... just the way the US and her banks always do.

How do we know all this?
1. The US is making threats and war against Russia. The threats and war are less hidden each day as more info about the depth of the US armament to Ukraine is revealed.
2. The US is doing this because their banking industry is based on contracts and treaties full of lies. Russia's is based on using real money in trade... except where Russia successfully copied US money when trading with anybody who used US money.
3. Russia has bypassed the sanctions and grown stronger in trade with countries that want to trade with her... BRICS.
4. People (simple citizens) of the US and Nato are feeling the pinch of US banking faulty operations against Russia (creating more fake money through loans to the US government for Ukraine), while at the same time Russia's general strength from its people is stronger.

You write fiction novels. You write based on old Russia. You seem to have a biased attitude against Russia. But if you don't, you write the way a paid propagandist writes.

It seems that you don't understand that Democracy is almost the same as Dictatorship. People who think that democracy is better have been tricked into believing so. US democracy is showing us this right now. Its being shown in the fact that the US government is lying to its people. It is coming out into the open with Tucker and many other things and reporters.

Wake up and see that, even if Russia doesn't become strong and win, the rest of the world will go right down with her if she falls.

Cool

 Freedom and trade are different concepts. Of course, in conditions of freedom, trade leads to the development of civilization. But there was also trade between democracies and countries with a totalitarian regime, for example, with the USSR or with Putin's Russia, before the sanctions, which are caused by Russian aggression.

As I see it, you are the paid propagandist here. All your comments here are copying Putin's lies. The West, though late, but understood. that the Empire of Lies and Evil must be stopped. Russian fascism will not pass!

Russian fascism was started by the US. It hasn't caught up to the US, and it doesn't want to.

Free trade between countries leads to whatever the country leaders dictate. Just because there is free trade between countries doesn't mean there is free trade between the citizens of the countries.

In large countries like the US and Russia, democracy and dictatorship produce almost the same results. The people are squashed under the lies of the leaders. Note that the people are of different mindsets. Some of the people like being squashed under their leaders, because it benefits them somehow... or at least they think it does.

Before the sanctions, Russia was playing the game of trade with other countries in ways that were beneficial to Russia. That's why they shut down the Soviet Union. Some of those ways were to agree with other countries in the ways that the other countries were playing the game. It was beneficial to Russia to do it this way at that time.

After the sanctions started, there wasn't any benefit for Russia to keep on playing the trade game they had been playing. So, they looked in other areas to find what worked for them. This brings them to China and Iran, etc., to trade with. It brings them to the point of improving and increasing BRICS.

One of the things that they found was a bunch of other countries that didn't like the way the West did their trading. Many of these countries are seeing just how bad the West is with its lying banking system that is trying to rule the world; the sanctions are showing this to everybody... bringing it out into the open.

Does Russia lie? Does Putin lie? Certainly. But all western trade is based on a gigantic trade lie. This lie is that they convert loans and contracts into money, and then they multiply the money value of the loans and contracts that they have made. The money of the West is almost all fake money.

US fake money looks good. It looks good until people and foreign governments figure out is is fake. Putin and Russian leaders would rather trade true value for true value. They don't want fake money. Why not? Because the fake money will collapse sooner or later. It's happening now for the West.

Look at all the governments of all the countries. The people running them are always looking to make a 'profit' for themselves and their countries. But the West is making their profit based on banking and trading fake money... lies. They are doing this way more than Russia and Putin could ever think of doing it, and certainly don't want to do it.

The point isn't that Putin and Russia aren't bad. They are. The point is that the West and their leaders (generally) are worse... by many country miles.

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What kind of nonsense is it to accuse America of the fact that fascism has arisen in Russia?

You started your post with a fundamental mistake. In democracies, leaders do not direct trade, unlike countries with toralitarian
 regimes.
They also do not manage the production of goods. The free market is the regulator of both production and trade, which was not the case, for example, in the USSR.

  The West imposed sanctions to deprive the Russian fascists of the opportunity to pursue aggressive policies and wars.
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March 13, 2023, 09:14:45 PM
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Russian fascism was started by the US. It hasn't caught up to the US, and it doesn't want to.

Free trade between countries leads to whatever the country leaders dictate. Just because there is free trade between countries doesn't mean there is free trade between the citizens of the countries.

In large countries like the US and Russia, democracy and dictatorship produce almost the same results. The people are squashed under the lies of the leaders. Note that the people are of different mindsets. Some of the people like being squashed under their leaders, because it benefits them somehow... or at least they think it does.

Before the sanctions, Russia was playing the game of trade with other countries in ways that were beneficial to Russia. That's why they shut down the Soviet Union. Some of those ways were to agree with other countries in the ways that the other countries were playing the game. It was beneficial to Russia to do it this way at that time.

After the sanctions started, there wasn't any benefit for Russia to keep on playing the trade game they had been playing. So, they looked in other areas to find what worked for them. This brings them to China and Iran, etc., to trade with. It brings them to the point of improving and increasing BRICS.

One of the things that they found was a bunch of other countries that didn't like the way the West did their trading. Many of these countries are seeing just how bad the West is with its lying banking system that is trying to rule the world; the sanctions are showing this to everybody... bringing it out into the open.

Does Russia lie? Does Putin lie? Certainly. But all western trade is based on a gigantic trade lie. This lie is that they convert loans and contracts into money, and then they multiply the money value of the loans and contracts that they have made. The money of the West is almost all fake money.

US fake money looks good. It looks good until people and foreign governments figure out is is fake. Putin and Russian leaders would rather trade true value for true value. They don't want fake money. Why not? Because the fake money will collapse sooner or later. It's happening now for the West.

Look at all the governments of all the countries. The people running them are always looking to make a 'profit' for themselves and their countries. But the West is making their profit based on banking and trading fake money... lies. They are doing this way more than Russia and Putin could ever think of doing it, and certainly don't want to do it.

The point isn't that Putin and Russia aren't bad. They are. The point is that the West and their leaders (generally) are worse... by many country miles.

Cool

What kind of nonsense is it to accuse America of the fact that fascism has arisen in Russia?

You started your post with a fundamental mistake. In democracies, leaders do not direct trade, unlike countries with toralitarian
 regimes.
They also do not manage the production of goods. The free market is the regulator of both production and trade, which was not the case, for example, in the USSR.

  The West imposed sanctions to deprive the Russian fascists of the opportunity to pursue aggressive policies and wars.


You forget that it was the West that gave the Bolshevik Revolution the chance to succeed and grow.



The only two things the US Federal Government has control of by Constitution are:
1. Money coining;
2. Borders.

Any US man or woman can do cross border trade without authorization from the US government. But he can only pass things over the border if he personally owns them. This leaves out corporations and companies. However, nobody does it this way... transferring personal property across the US borders. He always uses some form of corporate shipping that is controlled by government.

This means that there is no free cross-border market in the US, except what government has allowed. The difference between the US and Russia regarding this is, the US has allowed and encouraged more than Russia because of the pasts of both countries. But it is changing. Russia is becoming freer, but the US is tightening up.



You haven't seen the regulations that most big corporations in the US must follow if they want to continue to operate.



The West fascist, aggressive governments think that they imposed sanctions to deprive the Russian fascists of the opportunity to pursue the same kinds of aggressive policies that they, the West, are pursuing. It's competition on both sides, which includes all kinds of finance to store supposed money value.

Did you forget that Russia voluntarily shut down the soviet Union, based on the Minsk Treaty? They didn't have to do this. They did it so that they could pursue free trade with many other free-trade countries. The aggressive West is trying to take Russia down to steal her land and raw materials.


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March 13, 2023, 09:34:53 PM
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You forget that it was the West that gave the Bolshevik Revolution the chance to succeed and grow.


Yes, the West is to blame for fascism in Russia today. The West is to blame for the communists coming to power in Russia. What else is the West to blame for? List at once the list of faults of the West concerning Russia.
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You forget that it was the West that gave the Bolshevik Revolution the chance to succeed and grow.


Yes, the West is to blame for fascism in Russia today. The West is to blame for the communists coming to power in Russia. What else is the West to blame for? List at once the list of faults of the West concerning Russia.

I'll give you two of them with one post. The US promote the sanctions which influenced Russia's decision to improve BRICS. It wasn't enough for the US to advertise against BRICS. They had to go and make Russia stronger in her resolve to trade without the US dollar.

Russia, supported by the US and the West.

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March 13, 2023, 10:43:39 PM
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You forget that it was the West that gave the Bolshevik Revolution the chance to succeed and grow.


Yes, the West is to blame for fascism in Russia today. The West is to blame for the communists coming to power in Russia. What else is the West to blame for? List at once the list of faults of the West concerning Russia.

I'll give you two of them with one post. The US promote the sanctions which influenced Russia's decision to improve BRICS. It wasn't enough for the US to advertise against BRICS. They had to go and make Russia stronger in her resolve to trade without the US dollar.

Russia, supported by the US and the West.

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That is, in the end, the United States helps Russia. Very good! I just do not understand why in this case Russia is against sanctions, if they are useful to her. On the contrary, Russia should be grateful to America for the sanctions.
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I'll give you two of them with one post. The US promote the sanctions which influenced Russia's decision to improve BRICS. It wasn't enough for the US to advertise against BRICS. They had to go and make Russia stronger in her resolve to trade without the US dollar.

Russia, supported by the US and the West.

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That is, in the end, the United States helps Russia. Very good! I just do not understand why in this case Russia is against sanctions, if they are useful to her. On the contrary, Russia should be grateful to America for the sanctions.

You have noticed by now, that almost all of your talk against Russia includes stuff that happened from the Stalin era and before. Try separating the changes in the various Russian regimes.

Before the sanctions, Russia probably barely thought about sanctions happening to them. When sanctions happened, it probably upset their plans for international trade, so they probably didn't like it. Now, they are not thanking the West, because they have a whole slew of West-created problems to work out, including potential WW3. Russia is just grateful that the doors to their protection opened for them.

How do you thank the West for its stupid blundering that accidentally helped Russia, when all that the West seems to think about is destroying Russia?

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I'll give you two of them with one post. The US promote the sanctions which influenced Russia's decision to improve BRICS. It wasn't enough for the US to advertise against BRICS. They had to go and make Russia stronger in her resolve to trade without the US dollar.

Russia, supported by the US and the West.

Cool

That is, in the end, the United States helps Russia. Very good! I just do not understand why in this case Russia is against sanctions, if they are useful to her. On the contrary, Russia should be grateful to America for the sanctions.

You have noticed by now, that almost all of your talk against Russia includes stuff that happened from the Stalin era and before. Try separating the changes in the various Russian regimes.

Before the sanctions, Russia probably barely thought about sanctions happening to them. When sanctions happened, it probably upset their plans for international trade, so they probably didn't like it. Now, they are not thanking the West, because they have a whole slew of West-created problems to work out, including potential WW3. Russia is just grateful that the doors to their protection opened for them.

How do you thank the West for its stupid blundering that accidentally helped Russia, when all that the West seems to think about is destroying Russia?

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Yes, Russia has received problems that are to her advantage and that she wanted, as you say. The Russian people are satisfied that these problems have to be solved.
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