Will Real Estate Crush Bitcoin Investment In 2023?

[franky1]

Why does bitcoin has to be versus anything, why not bitcoin AND real estate. In fact that is the best way of looking at bitcoin, a currency with a price that is not tied to any other markets which makes it an excellent choice for those who want to diversify.

its not btc vs [anything] meaning people are forced to choose one.
its btc vs [anything] so that people can think about, choose, evaluate and calculate options which are BEST to put wealth into

for instance when BTC is running at a ATH its best not to be putting money into BTC
when gold is at a HIGH best to not put money into it

its the simple case of buy low sell high

real estate has seasons too when 'comps'(average price for area) jump stupidly high in a short period
where usually a crisis happens after that where people end up selling at a loss/foreclosure which causes comps to drop

other factors are where neighbours heavily invested in upgrades/modernisations. mean their higher price houses get high valuations. but then requires you to then invest big a second time to modernise yours just to stay equal to the area. meaning if you sold the house 'as is' without upgrades. it becomes less desirable and bidder try to underprice your house because they have to do alot of work to get it up to standard

also knowing that buying certain things are not simply buying it and leaving it. but instead requiring ongoing maintenance/admin/tax/interest/utility costs. can help people gauge which investment works best for them

housing is not really a investment as in just buy and leave. it does require ongoing work/investment

EG buying a property that stays empty for years whilst you pay mortgage+ renting a secondary place to live in, is not as profitable as buying a home for you to live in where you are not then having to pay rent for somewhere else
however you still have to factor in your living costs and interest and insurances over time into the future sell price

bitcoin is a simple investment. no ongoing /added costs required to invest in bitcoin.
real estate has ongoing costs which raise up the end sell price needed to break even. so to ensure you break even you need to really look at all costs involved and add them up and hope those extra costs are under the comps rise

[Bananington]

But since we are all trying to stay rich and protect the $$$ we work hard for, I think Real Estate is more reliable;

I started a topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444523.msg61895686#msg61895686 where we discussed Real Estate and investment in bitcoins, and how they can both be profitable to anyone who invest in them so far as they are able to carry and manage the risk in both of them. Real Estate can be considered more reliable because of the lesser risk involved, but you know what lesser risk means, it also means lesser rewards. So if you are okay with having just a little profit after a short time of investment, you can do Real Estate. It still is not bad for you have the both.

[franky1]

So if you are okay with having just a little profit after a short time of investment, you can do Real Estate. It still is not bad for you have the both.

short term profit on real estate only works if your doing
development (building from scratch)
flipping (buy derelict/auctioned houses for cheap, investing money to repair modernise them above local standard)

if you are thinking there is short term profit in buying finished homes and selling them as is. with no other added costs. think again

development works out cheap because most first world countries have tax incentives and government grants to build so the upfront costs are way way below comps value. thus if you develop a house that stands out above local standards you can then sell it higher then comps.

but dont assume you can just buy a house for $200k do nothing to it. pay nothing more for it. and then get rich in 6-12 months.. there is alot more involved when it comes to real estate than people realise

[Jody.Drummer]

I think that even though both of them are good Investment tools, they can never be compared, especially when they say Real Estate, I think they have their own community for that.
The choice remains the same as long as we have thoughts about whether it is in bitcoin or real estate, then we do it, but when talking about real estate, we actually have to wait longer than imagined, especially with the condition of real estate, which in terms of sales and purchases cannot instantly, then this could be one of the other reasons, even though their profits can indeed be said to be very large.

When talking about bitcoin fluctuations, I think everyone should be aware that this is a place of fluctuation and cannot rule it out because it is a risk. We have risks and the worst possibility between the two, so that is where a really mature decision must be made.

[dansus021]

Real Estate is always a choice but you need great money to do it Or I was wrong here is there any real estate investment that cost a fraction of the money?

In the other hand Bitcoin is also a good investment I would say you already see that bitcoin according to the past already broke the previous All-time High. If you or I have the money to invest in real estate I would invest to bitcoin too, you know to make a diversification

[Beny42]

other factors in play are:

when you buy btc. you buy btc. end of
when you buy real estate, you also have to pay ongoing utilities.. repairs. insurance. and other ongoing costs

these ongoing costs is the main reason houses bought for $200k turn into $300k in 5-10 years. because thats the extra COSTS added JUST TO BREAK EVEN

those paying mortgages add in the interest to the sell price to ensure break even.

the only advantage of real estate is buying to rent. where by the tenant pays the costs thus lowering your investment input thus when you do sell you can make profits. however bad tenants can create more damage which come with more costs which end up exceeding the rental amounts obtained. so real estate is not a guarantee of profit even if you sell the house for more then your bought it for

however with bitcoin selling for higher the buy price is a profit

You made a valid point here.

I believe rent is sure means to print profits in real estate. Unlike liquidating your assets through fixed capital like land. Though, it pays off. But I guess you wouldn't want to look in the mirror and see your gray hair before thinking of selling the land you bought some years ago, to bank a huge profit.

On the other hand, rent provides an assured channel for consistent ROI, and for countries like the U.S., where rent is paid monthly, real estate rental ventures are no doubt an exotic investment.

Also, talking about bad tenants, I think first-world countries frown at it. Since is a sector that also drives potential growth of the economy, you will either comply with the policies or go back to sleeping on the streets.

Inevitably, rental ventures have a huge profitable focus in the first world countries, unlike the third-world country where any of your tenants can claim rights and go against your policies.

Hence, I agree with your point that the government of your country can influence how profitable your investment in the real estate market will be... Unlike BTC.

[Wapfika]

But since we are all trying to stay rich and protect the $$$ we work hard for, I think Real Estate is more reliable;

What are your thoughts?

Real Estate investment is NOT for everyone. It requires huge capital just to have an investment on it since you are purchasing or constructing units that you will flip or rent which normal people can’t afford to invest. On the other hand, Bitcoin can give an investment opportunity to literally everyone poor or rich since you can buy a piece or portion of it with any amount that you want. You can accumulate it slowly using your excess funds which you can’t do on real estate. Real estate has taxes while Bitcoin doesn’t have if you are just holding it for a long time.

The capability to invest of normal people on real estate and bitcoin is what you didn’t consider when start this topic. Bitcoin will wipe the floor with Real Estate.

[Victorik]

In my country, I would rather invest in Bitcoin than invest in real estate. I have personally done my calculations and discovered that beside the fact that you have a roof over your head, have you really sat down to calculate how long it will take you to get back you initial investment in building a house if you are collecting rent?
Except you are building and selling off completely, I don't quite fashion the idea of building for rent.

[Gallar]

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This is not to discourage anyone from investing in the king of all coins 👉🏿 BITCOIN BTC

But since we are all trying to stay rich and protect the $$$ we work hard for, I think Real Estate is more reliable;

What are your thoughts?

Indeed, investing in real estate has very multi-purpose advantages, because real estate takes the form of buildings, properties and land. But that doesn't mean that investing in bitcoin is wrong, because in my opinion bitcoin has much better potential and is no less good than investing in real estate. besides, real estate and bitcoin cannot be equated, because in terms of usability they are very much different. Bitcoin is a decentralized digital asset, while real estate is an investment asset in the form of land, property and buildings. Therefore, bitcoin and real estate cannot be equated.

And everyone must have different interests about the assets they will buy when they want to invest. Whether it's bitcoin, real estate, gold or stocks. In my opinion everything is also good, even though there is nothing bad about all of these assets. Because all assets also have negative and positive points, advantages and disadvantages, so there is no need to debate. Because it's just a matter of interest and belief about what assets to buy.

[dlightag]

These are two difference investment in different form, which Real Estate deal with buildings, which is have some period of time, the fashion of building will depreciate and also the cost of the building rented apartment will drop from the initial time of the function of estate. Therefore Bitcoin is a digital currency and keep appreciate at least two to three years Bitcoin price keep appreciate higher and is getting more scar's in the market from demand, because supply is very small and get more expensive as time goes on.

[Asuspawer09]

What are your thoughts?

Might depend on the real estate there are some that might not be worth it to buy, In my country real estate is a great investment, it's probably the best asset that you could own here. So make research if you think that the real estate of your country is increasing its value and if it's a good investment if you have a great real state target, I would easily pick the real state if I have the funds to do so.

So if you have the money to buy real estate invest your money on it instead of Bitcoin, the real estate could generate passive income so it's the first thing that you should buy, Bitcoin, on the other hand, should just be a small percentage of your money. Bitcoin is a risky investment even though we all believed in Bitcoin it's still not guaranteed and you could also lose money if you doesnt plan to hold it for the long term.

Basically, you could invest in both at the same time, the dollar cost average on bitcoin, and save money for a real estate investment. Just my opinion I would sell my Bitcoin if it's a fair profit just to buy real estate.

[hannahB4]

Real estate investment is also a big catch investment but there are also disadvantages to it, my family bought a plot of land after some months it was brought to our notice that this same plot has been sold out to another person, we dragged to settle it that we will be given another place which is worst than what we paid for and many more of this examples, we have people who dupe in real estate and, if care is not taken you, will be their catch. I have a place for Bitcoin investment as well as real estate.

[The Cryptovator]

Real Estate and Bitcoin are two distinct entities. While Real Estate is a business, Bitcoin is an investment, functioning as a currency that is highly volatile. Real Estate typically generates profits, making it a lucrative business. However, comparing it to Bitcoin would be inappropriate, as each business should not be measured against Bitcoin. It would be absurd to suggest that people abandon all other business ventures and exclusively invest in Bitcoin. The reality is that we require real-life businesses to function in society, in addition to Bitcoin investment.

[Mr.suevie]

Real Estate and Bitcoin are two distinct entities. While Real Estate is a business, Bitcoin is an investment, functioning as a currency that is highly volatile. Real Estate typically generates profits, making it a lucrative business. However, comparing it to Bitcoin would be inappropriate, as each business should not be measured against Bitcoin. It would be absurd to suggest that people abandon all other business ventures and exclusively invest in Bitcoin. The reality is that we require real-life businesses to function in society, in addition to Bitcoin investment.

I guess the mistake is not so common to make because its quite clear that bitcoin is a means of investment and also a high volatile currency which is highly unpredictable and real estate on the other hand is actually a real business and like you stated it just advisable to have your bitcoin investment backed up with an actual real business where you can be making your standard day-to-day profits where as your bitcoin investment is left to grow and yield possible tangible profits in the future.

[royalfestus]

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