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April 13, 2023, 09:12:46 PM
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Are you sure that you are using Bitcoin-QT? Its an old version of Bitcoin core I suggest download the latest one and update your wallet. You can find the bitcoin this page top left  under news it should be the right link where you can download the latest version.
If your problem from the first post is in this wallet the latest version of Bitcoin core will allow you to choose or manually customized the transaction fee.
I don't know what exactly your problem is and I don't see some progress about your case so what exactly your problem is? bitcoin.info transaction fee or Bitcoin-qt?

In my first post I was having a problem with blockchain.com (formerly .info)

I ended up transferring my tiny amount of Satoshi from there to my private wallet on my PC. But I lost 15k sat.

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I tried using 24.0.1 but it caused a database corruption and I had to re-download some blocks.
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May 10, 2023, 10:25:20 PM
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In my first post I was having a problem with blockchain.com (formerly .info)

I ended up transferring my tiny amount of Satoshi from there to my private wallet on my PC. But I lost 15k sat.

Here's what I'm using now:
Bitcoin Core version v24.0
Copyright (C) 2009-2022 The Bitcoin Core developers


I tried using 24.0.1 but it caused a database corruption and I had to re-download some blocks.


Is it worth transferring your tiny amount of Satoshi for 15k sat, why are you in a hurry to transfer, you could have to wait a few more days for the network to decongest, and you could have saved half of your fees,
My advice to you is if it's only a small amount and it's not that urgent wait for the right time to transfer and transfer at a fee where you are more convenient.
You can monitor the transfer fee here
https://mempool.space/.

And use a wallet that you are more comfortable using, but do explore other wallets as well, but always go for a hardware wallet if it's a big amount of coins that you'll be storing.

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May 11, 2023, 08:34:30 AM
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Is it worth transferring your tiny amount of Satoshi for 15k sat, why are you in a hurry to transfer, you could have to wait a few more days for the network to decongest, and you could have saved half of your fees,
My advice to you is if it's only a small amount and it's not that urgent wait for the right time to transfer and transfer at a fee where you are more convenient.
You can monitor the transfer fee here
https://mempool.space/.

And use a wallet that you are more comfortable using, but do explore other wallets as well, but always go for a hardware wallet if it's a big amount of coins that you'll be storing.
Though you have suggested the right thing, your timing is pretty off in this case. The guy has done the transaction last month and the network was not congested at that time nor there was much traffic in the mempool. This congestion has just happened this week or last week by most, for the transaction fees that OP paid to the wallet was probably not due to this.

Some wallets basically charge more fees on transactions but I don't think that blockchain.com would do that since it is one of the best online wallets out there in terms of security and usability, maybe the fees were just high at that time or for that particular day.

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May 11, 2023, 08:52:39 AM
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First of all note that the fee you pay for your transaction is paid to miners, not blockhain.com wallet (formerly known as blockchain.info) and that depends on number of inputs and outputs, the network state, your address(es) type and how fast you want your tranaction to be confirmed.
I had blockchain.com wallet years ago, for a limited and I had two wallets there, one generated by blockchain.com and another one was imported by me. If I remember it well, the wallet generated by blockchain.com had way higher fee than the imported one. For example, if I wanted to send $10 bitcoin, BC generated wallet would charge me $2 while imported wallet would charge me $0.5
This is how I remember it, can't claim 100% because it was years ago and I only used Blockchain.com for a week or two.


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I had blockchain.com wallet years ago, for a limited and I had two wallets there, one generated by blockchain.com and another one was imported by me. If I remember it well, the wallet generated by blockchain.com had way higher fee than the imported one.
Maybe, you had more UTXOs in the wallet generated by blockchain.com.
Take note that fee you have to pay for a transactions depends on number of inputs and outputs. The more inputs or outputs you have, the more you have to pay as transaction fee.

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May 12, 2023, 09:56:36 PM
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For example, if I wanted to send $10 bitcoin, BC generated wallet would charge me $2 while imported wallet would charge me $0.5
I used blockchain.com in the past too and if I memory serves me right, it didn't allow manual fee customization. It only allowed customers to choose among three priority options: low, medium and high.
What I'm certain about is that it was overcharging on fees.
But, technically it doesn't matter whether you are trying to withdraw from an imported wallet or a one generated by BC. The proposed fee rate is supposed to be the same since the algorithm used for fee estimation is the same.
The absolute fees you needed to pay was different because sizes of the transactions aren't the same (different number of inputs/outputs as hosseinimr explained above).

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May 12, 2023, 10:57:48 PM
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For example, if I wanted to send $10 bitcoin, BC generated wallet would charge me $2 while imported wallet would charge me $0.5
I used blockchain.com in the past too and if I memory serves me right, it didn't allow manual fee customization. It only allowed customers to choose among three priority options: low, medium and high.
The reason why I didn't use my account for this wallet is just because of the fee and it takes time to open your wallet due to a lot of verification.
Why not you guys import your private key from Blockchain.com to Electrum, which on Electrum you can modify the fee even below 10 sats?

But yes, one main factor is always checking the mempool.space for tracking the transaction fee, last week we had an insane network free due to network congestion.  Leave this buggy wallet the Blockchain.com.

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May 12, 2023, 11:08:12 PM
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For example, if I wanted to send $10 bitcoin, BC generated wallet would charge me $2 while imported wallet would charge me $0.5
I used blockchain.com in the past too and if I memory serves me right, it didn't allow manual fee customization. It only allowed customers to choose among three priority options: low, medium and high.
The reason why I didn't use my account for this wallet is just because of the fee and it takes time to open your wallet due to a lot of verification.
Why not you guys import your private key from Blockchain.com to Electrum, which on Electrum you can modify the fee even below 10 sats?

But yes, one main factor is always checking the mempool.space for tracking the transaction fee, last week we had an insane network free due to network congestion.  Leave this buggy wallet the Blockchain.com.
Hell, right. There is no good news to them anymore, only newbies are the one creating accounts there because of there SEO related name which "blockchain" wallet that google suggest whenever someone make a google search, luring newbies believing they will have best experience on them, plus their shitty ads. Only to find out, they are still the same before, lots of bugs and shitty support.

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May 14, 2023, 12:01:45 PM
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I had blockchain.com wallet years ago, for a limited and I had two wallets there, one generated by blockchain.com and another one was imported by me. If I remember it well, the wallet generated by blockchain.com had way higher fee than the imported one.
Maybe, you had more UTXOs in the wallet generated by blockchain.com.
Take note that fee you have to pay for a transactions depends on number of inputs and outputs. The more inputs or outputs you have, the more you have to pay as transaction fee.
What I actually remember is that regular fees on wallet generated by blockchain.com was way higher than regular fees on wallet that was created by me and imported in blockchain.com website. Both were legacy address.
Logically, single address that belonged to my, shouldn't have more outputs automatically and in my case, these fee deference was always on one output transactions.
Since that day, I haven't used blockchain.com and I advise everyone to not use, their website is slow, doesn't work as expected and overall don't like this company, I don't feel that in any way I can feel secure by using their platform.

For example, if I wanted to send $10 bitcoin, BC generated wallet would charge me $2 while imported wallet would charge me $0.5
I used blockchain.com in the past too and if I memory serves me right, it didn't allow manual fee customization. It only allowed customers to choose among three priority options: low, medium and high.
What I'm certain about is that it was overcharging on fees.
But, technically it doesn't matter whether you are trying to withdraw from an imported wallet or a one generated by BC. The proposed fee rate is supposed to be the same since the algorithm used for fee estimation is the same.
The absolute fees you needed to pay was different because sizes of the transactions aren't the same (different number of inputs/outputs as hosseinimr explained above).
Yes, exactly but in my case, there was really a fee difference between imported wallet and one generated by blockchain.com. Imported wallet was always financially way beneficial to use than the BC generated one. I don't really remember if I was able to choose fee by myself but I can swear that regular or any three fee options were always 2-3 and more times more on BC generated wallet then on the imported one.


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May 14, 2023, 10:27:24 PM
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Yes, exactly but in my case, there was really a fee difference between imported wallet and one generated by blockchain.com. Imported wallet was always financially way beneficial to use than the BC generated one. I don't really remember if I was able to choose fee by myself but I can swear that regular or any three fee options were always 2-3 and more times more on BC generated wallet then on the imported one.
I believe you but, as explained above, the reason is most likely the number of inputs used in each transaction not if the wallet was imported or not. That's irrelevant.
It seems you are confusing addresses with inputs (UTXOs: unspent tx outputs). Even if you send from a single address, your transaction may have multiple inputs. Every transaction you receive is a separate utxo which may be used later as input.
Anyway, good thing you decided to stop using that buggy wallet.

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May 15, 2023, 05:58:08 PM
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Yes, exactly but in my case, there was really a fee difference between imported wallet and one generated by blockchain.com. Imported wallet was always financially way beneficial to use than the BC generated one. I don't really remember if I was able to choose fee by myself but I can swear that regular or any three fee options were always 2-3 and more times more on BC generated wallet then on the imported one.
I believe you but, as explained above, the reason is most likely the number of inputs used in each transaction not if the wallet was imported or not. That's irrelevant.
It seems you are confusing addresses with inputs (UTXOs: unspent tx outputs). Even if you send from a single address, your transaction may have multiple inputs. Every transaction you receive is a separate utxo which may be used later as input.
Anyway, good thing you decided to stop using that buggy wallet.
I know what is UTXO but how many UTXO should it create to make a huge difference in transaction fees? Every time I send from single address to another single address, there is another 1 output that returns to me but I just gained access on my BC account and checked transaction, here is the deal: Right now it shows my wallet as DeFi Wallet. As I see, every time I was sending bitcoin from BC generated wallet, the sender wallet was always different and it usually had one input and two outputs but here I found a transaction that has 3 inputs and 2 outputs, I have no idea why.

All in all, BC wallet has lots of issues, I have even heard that people had log-in issues while everything was correct from their own side. I have no idea why should someone use it when you can download light Electrum.

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May 15, 2023, 09:43:23 PM
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I know what is UTXO but how many UTXO should it create to make a huge difference in transaction fees?
The size of a normal transaction including 1 input and 2 outputs is around 225 byte. If you add an input to your transaction, so that it includes 2 inputs and 2 outputs, it size would increase to around 375 byte. That's around 67% increase in transaction size. If you increase the inputs to 3, the total size would be around 520 byte.

BC generated wallet, the sender wallet was always different and it usually had one input and two outputs but here I found a transaction that has 3 inputs and 2 outputs, I have no idea why.
You had three inputs because you had received that fund in three different transactions.
I'm not a fan of blockchain.com wallet and due to obvious reasons, I would never recommended anyone to use it, but what you said isn't really their fault.

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May 16, 2023, 08:29:23 AM
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You had three inputs because you had received that fund in three different transactions.
I'm not a fan of blockchain.com wallet and due to obvious reasons, I would never recommended anyone to use it, but what you said isn't really their fault.
Okay, I have one blockchain wallet. I have received funds at past and then decided to spend funds. I choose my Blockchain, so called DeFi wallet which definitely is one address that changes every time I receive deposit.

So, I send from my blockchain wallet to one particular address all of my balance. Logically, there should be 1 input and 1 output but in my transaction there were 3 inputs and 2 outputs. From three inputs, only one address had received funds at past. Two addresses among 3 inputs are brand new for me and one output address out of two is brand new for me too. So, idk what to say.

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