Totally made up story on the gambling section that I want to analyze.

[Poker Player]

Secondly, how did you miss the fact that we do not reside or come from the same country?

I didn't.

Harlots and hotels might be expensive in your country of residence, it is not so in mine,

It doesn't matter.

I come from Nigeria, ask other Nigerians on this forum, things might be expensive over here, but trust me, with as little as 500 to 1000 naira ($0.654 to $1.305), you could get for yourself a clean prostitute for short term which is between 10 minutes to 30 minutes, depending on the agreement between the both of you, and note, this does not mean that there are no expensive ones, but this ones reserve themselves for the money bags.
And again, with as little as 5000 naira ($6.27) , you could get for yourself a single room in local hotel where you are allowed to stay 30 minutes(maximum), if you wanna stay much longer, you pay more - and this again, does not mean there are no expensive hotels.

There will be prostitutes and certain hotels that are cheap from a western point of view, but the average income is also lower in Nigeria. Also, Iphones I don't think are much cheaper, and you say he bought two. Or are you going to tell me they were third hand and worth $50 each?

Then you also say that he moved:

...he left our neighborhood and moved to a better place and a bigger apartment,

and I don't know if you are going to tell me that move to a better place cost only $10 difference, but I have searched about rent in Nigeria and I see expensive prices, being one of the first results this one:

Is rent expensive in Nigeria?
RENT PER MONTH

Rent is really unusually expensive in a country like Nigeria. If you're looking for an apartment in the center of any of the major Nigerian cities, that will cost you a whopping 935.4$.

But that's not the most important thing, the most important thing is that anyone who has been in the casinos enough and knows a little math, knows that a gambler very rarely comes out positive more than three nights in a row. What you say he won in 3 nights is enough to buy a couple of Iphones, of the new ones, of course. But not to lead the lifestyle you say he led for almost two months, no matter how cheap the prostitutes and hotels there are.

I am really disappointed that in your quest to (should I say) catch made up stories, you don't even seem to know a story that is truly made up.

I'm not trying catching up stories in general, I took a stroll through the Gambling Section and I happened to read the story you made up.

Personally, on my end, I might have maybe failed or inaccurately explained somethings not actually as they were or happened, it does not mean the story is fake, and remember I said in the post that, I am not close to the person in question, even though I referred to him as a friend on my post, so note that most part of the story was based on what I was told by someone who I've always seen around the said person.

Okay, so you are conceding to me that the story may have some exaggeration or imagination in it.

... and what other way can a story that is more like a personal experience (that is not in the news) proven? I did prove it If I know how, or you guys tell me how..
It's the first time I'm being accused(based on my post) on this forum, and the first time I'm accused wrongly.

It cannot be demonstrated but it can be falsified, as happens with scientific hypotheses. When the story is based on a winning streak that is so improbable that it borders on mathematical impossibility, and contains a lot of inconsistencies about lifestyle, like cheap hotels and cheap prostitutes but buying Iphones and moving to a better neighborhood, it is false.

Peace.

Yes, peace on my part too, but don't try to make me swallow the story, I don't care if those who have commented on the 11 pages of the thread have swallowed it, or even stopped to think about it, just writing to meet their quota.

I reported it to be locked btw, but I see that the report is unhandled at least for the moment. I see no point in keeping that discussion going beyond 11 pages.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Yes, peace on my part too, but don't try to make me swallow the story, I don't care if those who have commented on the 11 pages of the thread have swallowed it, or even stopped to think about it, just writing to meet their quota.

I reported it to be locked btw, but I see that the report is unhandled at least for the moment. I see no point in keeping that discussion going beyond 11 pages.

With all due respect my friend, just rest...

What is all this accusation and arguments all about? Is it just to earn more merit? Or to appear like the hard working user on this forum? Are there no other ways a user can earn merit without having to try to unjustly destroy another user's reputation?
What exactly would you have gained if I was tagged due to you wrongfully accusing me of a fake story here? Will stake have given you my position in their campaign to also join with your current position on unijion.? What exactly would have been your profit?

Because, your argument is totally baseless to me..

and I don't know if you are going to tell me that move to a better place cost only $10 difference, but I have searched about rent in Nigeria and I see expensive prices, being one of the first results this one:

Is rent expensive in Nigeria?
RENT PER MONTH

Rent is really unusually expensive in a country like Nigeria. If you're looking for an apartment in the center of any of the major Nigerian cities, that will cost you a whopping 935.4$.

If you believe that the cheapest apartment in Nigeria cost $935, then it's a pity, cus you definitely proved to me that you are the type that would believe anything you see on the internet, aside a harmless story from Fivestar4everMVP of course.

I currently live in a Room and parlour self contain, both the room and parlour are wide enough for me as a family man, compound is pretty clean, fenced with gate - and my yearly rent is about $140 - you need prove, come to Nigeria, I am ready to welcome you with open arms.

But that's not the most important thing, the most important thing is that anyone who has been in the casinos enough and knows a little math, knows that a gambler very rarely comes out positive more than three nights in a row. What you say he won in 3 nights is enough to buy a couple of Iphones, of the new ones, of course. But not to lead the lifestyle you say he led for almost two months, no matter how cheap the prostitutes and hotels there are.

"Very rarely" does not mean "very impossible" my friend.
What does the word "rare" mean in English dictionary?

(of an event, situation, or condition) not occurring very often.

(of a thing) not found in large numbers and so of interest or value.

There is no mention of impossibility there, which means, that some thing rarely happens, does not mean it does not happen, it just doesn't happen often or commonly..
I do not blame you though, because for several times, I've heard testimonies in church that I found really hard to believe it's true, but do I walk up to the alter and announce to the entire church congregation that the testimony the testifier shared is a lie simply because I find it hard to believe? No, I rather keep my doubt and disbelieve to myself than accuse someone of telling a lie when I am not even sure if the testimony is true or false.

And in conclusion, I hold nothing against you, I only wished you used this time for something more meaningful.
You reported the thread is no big deal to me, and if mods decided to lock the thread, it's still no big deal to me, because there is never a time I was expecting that the thread be open for ever, what is more important to me is that the message is passed, and that is to not make gambling your only source of income, or let it take the place of your day job or business..

How you argued so much about the story being fake, and didn't even mention anything about the message the story is preaching 🙄.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Sometime there are many useless thread in gambling section.

That's got to be a candidate for understatement of the year, my man. 

I skimmed through the OP of the thread in question, but my mind went fuzzy as soon as Fivestar4everMVP started relating the details of whatever went on with his supposed friend.  The English is bad, and I just don't care to read shit like that if I don't have to.  But Poker Player, you called him out in that thread, and it didn't go unnoticed.  If this were some serious BS that had negative implications for the community or something similar I'd say definitely start up a new thread in Reputation to discuss it.  However, Fivestar4everMVP's post just seems to be a whole bunch of bloated blather, no doubt to earn some money in the stake.com campaign and perhaps some merits (which he did).  IMO it's basically just a shitpost, and shitposts--whether made up stories or not--don't need threads of their own.

Good job blowtorching his ass for being a fibber, though.

[OgNasty]

So, I took a look at the gambling section and saw a thread that is based on an OP that is simply false. What is told in it does not stand up to the slightest rational analysis.

I would like to detail it and I have been hesitating where to do it. I have thought about the Reputation section but it would seem too tough against the person who makes up the story I think and I've been known to be aggressive enough lately. I have also thought to call it BS in the same thread but the comment would be lost on the umpteenth page and people would keep spamming the thread no matter what.

Then I have also thought of doing it in Meta, as it is a meta-reflection on that thread the analysis I plan to do, but here I'm sure someone will tell me the typical thing that I should just report the thread, but I don't want to just report it but analyze it and see what the other forum members think.

What do you think?

I guess my question is...  Who cares?  Most of the nonsense on this forum spouted by some of the highest rated DT members is total made up nonsense.  Of course random sig spam threads are going to be full of word vomit.  I guess for me to even have the slightest care about this occurring, I would need to know why it matters.  Is there a victim?  Are lies being told that damage the reputation of another person or entity?  If so, then what we have isn't making up stories, but libel being committed by someone and that shouldn't be tolerated (but is tolerated here at the highest level under the guise of free speech as a result of laziness and not wanting to handle things like an Anarchist or Libertarian but instead directing people to the police).  So again, who cares?  Who is the victim here?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Sometime there are many useless thread in gambling section.

That's got to be a candidate for understatement of the year, my man. 

I skimmed through the OP of the thread in question, but my mind went fuzzy as soon as Fivestar4everMVP started relating the details of whatever went on with his supposed friend.  The English is bad, and I just don't care to read shit like that if I don't have to.  But Poker Player, you called him out in that thread, and it didn't go unnoticed.  If this were some serious BS that had negative implications for the community or something similar I'd say definitely start up a new thread in Reputation to discuss it.  However, Fivestar4everMVP's post just seems to be a whole bunch of bloated blather, no doubt to earn some money in the stake.com campaign and perhaps some merits (which he did).  IMO it's basically just a shitpost, and shitposts--whether made up stories or not--don't need threads of their own.

Good job blowtorching his ass for being a fibber, though.

Haha,
Funny enough, I've been looking forward to your comment here, I appreciate your coming sir, and your comment isn't far from what I expected..

Bad English?, oh yeah, what should I do now?
Apologize for coming from a non English speaking tribe? Or apologize for not being as educated as you are?
And do you advice I start using chatGPT to proofread my article before I post them? For better English?

Anyways, poker player didn't accuse me based on bad English(according to you), his accusation is based on his personal opinion that the story I shared is fake.

And yeah, we all are chasing something after all, money is important to keep body and soul together, and as well take good care of our families and relatives, but Merit - Na Na, those who decided to merit the post in question did so on their own free will, I did not beg for it.

And no matter how good a post is, it will sure be a shitpost to somebody, or some persons, most especially, on this forum, I do not worry myself about this anymore, I just do the best I know I can..

And lastly, poker player did blowtorch my ass so bad 🤣, I can't even sit well, wonder where he learnt to do this so well 😅😅..

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

If you think about it, we often come across invented stories here on the forum and people who regularly lie more than we think. Sometimes, when a lie spills over the edge, I see that it is possible to give a neutral review since a person who lied once will lie twice. A neutral review will be a good warning that waiting for the truth from a person is an empty exercise; you need to believe him at your own peril and risk.

I was about saying the same thing, the issue of fabricated stories aren't just issues of the gambling board but all boards of the forum. If you visit Bitcoin discussion, trading discussion and that of the alternative discussion, you'll see this stories and people responding to them without thinking of questioning the stories they just read, and we all know why that's the norm. I'm not pointing fingers to the user that they're accusing of his story been false or not as I wanted to verify that myself (but I can't because that thread is too big for me to read) and I believe I won't learn anything benefiting to me since such discussion aren't of my interest.

Another thing I noticed is the users been accused coming to defend himself (that's very unlikely by spammers only posting to get paid) maybe he might has exaggerated some information but he mightn't be telling a total lie although I'm not in a good positive to give out such judgement. Another thing, why are we taking the gambling section serious thought we said the board is full of spammers so what do we expect from such board, obviously majority of stories on the board will be fabricated. For the fact that the so called gamblers on the board aren't gamblers what did we expect?.

[Poker Player]

What is all this accusation and arguments all about? Is it just to earn more merit? Or to appear like the hard working user on this forum? Are there no other ways a user can earn merit without having to try to unjustly destroy another user's reputation?
What exactly would you have gained if I was tagged due to you wrongfully accusing me of a fake story here? Will stake have given you my position in their campaign to also join with your current position on unijion.? What exactly would have been your profit?

Don't worry, you look very nervous, nobody is going to tag you here, first and foremost me:

... I think it's not even worth a neutral tag.

Because, your argument is totally baseless to me..
...
"Very rarely" does not mean "very impossible" my friend.
What does the word "rare" mean in English dictionary?

Your story is not mathematically impossible in the same way that getting a million tails in a row by flipping a coin is not impossible, but it is so improbable that you won't see it in the real world even if you live a million lifetimes. In the same way, for someone living a modest life in Nigeria to have a winning streak like the one you described has a probability of 0 of occurring by mathematical approximation. If we add to this the fact that according to you what he earns gives him enough to buy Iphones and move to a better neighborhood but he decided to save on prostitutes and hotels  , something that only came up in conversation when I questioned the story we can see that it doesn't add up.

However, Fivestar4everMVP's post just seems to be a whole bunch of bloated blather, no doubt to earn some money in the stake.com campaign and perhaps some merits (which he did).  IMO it's basically just a shitpost, and shitposts--whether made up stories or not--don't need threads of their own.

Well, the thing is that it is a shitpost that is not easily seen because of the lenght of the story. An elaborate shitpost, that after this conversation I see that maybe it could contain part of truth, and he exaggerated it. I wanted to explain my reasoning to see what others thought about my argument as to why the story is false and the only one I see who defends it is Fivestar4everMVP with which I reaffirm that I am correct.

I was about saying the same thing, the issue of fabricated stories aren't just issues of the gambling board but all boards of the forum.

Yes, but just because there are many made up stories I will not stop questioning them, on the contrary, if I see one that looks like BS to me, I will call it BS.

Another thing I noticed is the users been accused coming to defend himself (that's very unlikely by spammers only posting to get paid) maybe he might has exaggerated some information but he mightn't be telling a total lie...

Yes, that's the conclusion I come to, that the story probably has some truth to it but it was greatly exaggerated.

I think the time has come to lock the thread.