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June 14, 2023, 04:20:36 AM
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The most controversial topic in the world today is about artificial intelligence because of the boom in the development of artificial intelligence applications, and I mean in particular Chat Apps such as ChatGpt and Writesonic and many others, which are able to issue content that was produced entirely using artificial intelligence without human intervention. The content can be anything (article, photo, video, chart...). And in a short period of time, the demand for many sectors decreased, especially those that require creative skills such as translation, content creation, and even programming.
The crisis became clear after the rise in concerns about intellectual property rights on the Internet and the decline in the popularity of search engines, in addition to the intrusion of chatgpt into universities, and many cases of cheating by students were discovered.

And since we are on a public forum open to publishers of all categories, the development of this smart software poses a number of challenges about the level of reliability in what any account publishes. In simple words, some logical assumptions can be put forward to know the reality of these challenges:

- Since upgrading membership on btt forum requires effort to increase the number of posts and at the same time obtain merit points, anyone can create an account and publish very distinguished posts of high quality that qualifies him to upgrade his membership and open up horizons for him that he may not deserve.
- Members participating in signature campaigns can also easily produce publications using artificial intelligence and get paid weekly without the need for any diligence.
- Anyone can publish an article that he produced using artificial intelligence and claim royalties from anyone using it after him.
- If it is not forbidden on btt forum to publish content produced using artificial intelligence, how can intellectual property rights be achieved and cases of Plagiarism be dealt with?



I cited Bitcointalk forum as an example to analyze the matter from a small angle, but the issue is much larger than that. It can be summed up in two questions:
To whom does this right belong to the commercial use of text and images generated by artificial intelligence? Is it possible to sell these texts, images and even videos and benefit from copyright?

 
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June 14, 2023, 09:50:18 AM
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The introduction of the use of AI is targeted on us having better and new experience and not to abuse it in any settings we found it being applicable to cheat on the stipulated protocols on such platforms, if the rules or protocols allows for thebuse of AI then it's fine and good, there's nothing bad in that but if the rules kicked against it, then there should be a clear understanding to why they want such to be strictly followed.
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June 14, 2023, 11:09:52 AM
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- Members participating in signature campaigns can also easily produce publications using artificial intelligence and get paid weekly without the need for any diligence.
This is not true, some campaign managers and campaigns frown at AI generated post. Some even go as far as promising rewards for any user that catches another users post in the campaign as a post generated by AI. Any user found will also be disqualified from the campaign, it is clearly written in any campaign managed by Royse777.
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▶️ If you find AI-written posts for this campaign and report them to me publicly or via PM, you will receive the weekly payment instead of the accused campaigner (if your report was successful). Please include as much evidence as possible when submitting a report.

If you are a participating member in a signature campaign you have to do your best to put in the work and put out quality original post and topics. Generating replies and post with AI shows that you have nothing in your head for another person to learn from.

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June 14, 2023, 11:22:35 AM
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I understand your point of view and your concern regarding post quality and the possibility of AI usage by forum users. However, it's not that simple. AI shows some signs that indicate that a post may be written by automated software; sometimes it's quite noticeable, especially if the post is created by a newer user with a questionable post history. Moreover, there is already software that specializes in spotting AI usage. Certainly, some users will get away with it; you can't be using AI detection in every post you read, but as I mentioned earlier, there are a few signs to look for that may make a post suspicious enough to be checked.

Even if a user manages to enter a signature campaign by taking advantage of AI platforms, he'll eventually be caught, kicked, and probably red-tagged.

 
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June 14, 2023, 11:47:37 AM
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- Since upgrading membership on btt forum requires effort to increase the number of posts and at the same time obtain merit points, anyone can create an account and publish very distinguished posts of high quality that qualifies him to upgrade his membership and open up horizons for him that he may not deserve.
- Members participating in signature campaigns can also easily produce publications using artificial intelligence and get paid weekly without the need for any diligence.
- Anyone can publish an article that he produced using artificial intelligence and claim royalties from anyone using it after him.
- If it is not forbidden on btt forum to publish content produced using artificial intelligence, how can intellectual property rights be achieved and cases of Plagiarism be dealt with?

I already assumed it was banned to AI post on threads, I'd consider it spam. You can somewhat tell when someone is using AI to type out their responses because the prose reads robotic and generic.

Anyways, I've thought about AI content and intellectual property in the past because it creates a bit of a dichotomy when it comes to monetization. Who owns the intellectual rights to something AI produces? Easy to suggest the parent company, owner of the AI platform, is entitled to all work, but think of this example: Does Adobe Photoshop take ownership of all works created using their program? Surely not, as there's input required by the user for digital creation. AI works in similar way - AI content, as of now, requires user input before producing content. Something like ChatGPT does the heavy lifting in that regard, but you're still required to input the parameters.
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June 14, 2023, 03:37:41 PM
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There are people connecting the similarities between AI now with its level of hype and the internet back in the dot com boom. I think while AI is awesome and will change the world, perhaps people are thinking it will change the world a little faster than it will. It took over a decade for the internet companies to get their valuations and businesses figured out. AI will likely be similar.

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June 14, 2023, 04:39:31 PM
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- Since upgrading membership on btt forum requires effort to increase the number of posts and at the same time obtain merit points, anyone can create an account and publish very distinguished posts of high quality that qualifies him to upgrade his membership and open up horizons for him that he may not deserve.
-Anyone can publish an article that he produced using artificial intelligence and claim royalties from anyone using it after him.
If you are a regular visitor to the Meta board of this forum, you would have noticed that the forum prohibits the use of A.I for content generation, as though they could be meaningful, but it literally adds no value to the forum, and such contents are prone to be easily identified with the help of some suggested tool which "Nutildah" gave in this thread titled AI-generated post discussion thread: how to identify & report and from physical appearance, as such contents are always written in flawless English

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-Members participating in signature campaigns can also easily produce publications using artificial intelligence and get paid weekly without the need for any diligence.
Using an A.I to drop a post on a signature can only be short-lived because most campaign managers have got to notice such evil acts and penalties have been given to members caught to be victims of such, most especially @ Royse777 who made it strictly in all his signature that the use of A.I for posting is highly prohibited, which could lead to a temporal signature ban or a permanent forum ban.

So here are some tools to help you detect if a post or thread is A.I generated or not

https://writer.com/ai-content-detector/ (max. 1500 chars)
https://gptzero.me/ (min. 250 chars)
https://contentatscale.ai/ai-content-detector/ (min. 25 words)
https://x.writefull.com/gpt-detector (50-2000 words)
https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detection (max. 8192 chars)
https://paraphrasingtool.ai/ai-content-detector/ (max. 4900 chars)

 
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Using an A.I to drop a post on a signature can only be short-lived because most campaign managers have got to notice such evil acts and penalties have been given to members caught to be victims of such, most especially @ Royse777 who made it strictly in all his signature that the use of A.I for posting is highly prohibited, which could lead to a temporal signature ban or a permanent forum ban.

Look at this thread created by Royse77 himself asking the community to determine if user (x) is using AI to generate posts for his weekly quota signature campaign: I require community feedback (Thanks)
After a long discussion, no one can prove if the accused user was using AI or not because all those AI-detecting tools are not accurate and not reliable at all, as they gave contradictive results. So please just try to check one of the posts subject of accusation in that thread by using all the tools mentioned in above posts and let's see if you can determine whether it's AI generated or not.

Also note that the restriction on using AI is only limited to signature campaigns rules (only mentioned by Royse77 for now) and not included on the forum's rules, if not anyone found using such to post should be allowed to face the consequences by forum administration and not by users using the trust system.

 
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